CCMtg01-05-09Min LONGWOOD CITY COMMISSION
Longwood City Commission Chambers
175 West Warren Avenue
Longwood, Florida
1VIINUTES
JANUARY 5, 2009
7:00 P.M.
Present: Mayor Brian D. Sackett
Deputy Mayor John C. Maingot
Commissioner Joe Durso
Commissioner Mike Holt
Commissioner H.G. "Butch" Bundy
Teresa S. Roper, City Attorney
John J. Drago, City Administrator
Sarah M. Mirus, City Clerk
Richard Kornbluh, Division Manager of Utilities
Tom Jackson, Police Chief
Evelyn Cohen, Fire Department
Laurie Mooney, Fire Cliief
Carol Rogers, Director of Financial Services
Ryan Spinella, Executive Assistant
Paul Sizemore, Director of Community Services
Fran Meli, Recreation Program Manager
1. CALL TO ORDER. Mayor Sackett called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
2. A moment of .SILENT MEDITATION was followed by the. PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE.
3. COMMUNITY` ANNOUNCEMENTS. Ms. Mirus read the following
announcements:
A. .Florida Music will be held on January 16, 2009 from 6:00 p.m. until
9:30 p.m., Longwood Community Building, 200 West Warren
Avenue.
B. Movie. in the Park will be held on January 16, 2009 beginning at 7:00
p.m., Candyland Park, 599 Longdale Avenue. This month's feature is
Kung Fu Panda.
C. A Blue Grass Pickin° will be held on January 17, 2009 from 7:00 p.m.
until 10.:00 p.m., Longwood Community Building, 200 West Warren .
Avenue.
CC 01-OS-09/ 1
4. RECOGNITIONS/PROCLAMATIONS.
A. District #1 Presentation of the >~usiness Person of the Month Award
for January 2009 to Betsey Flowers of Schakolad Chocolate Factory
located at 2425 West State Road 434, Suite No. 187.
Deputy Mayor Maingot read a brief biography on Ms. Flowers and
presented her with the Business Person of the Month Award for January
2009. Photographs were then taken.
B. Presentation of Certificate of Appreciation to Mrs. Judy Putz for all
of her contributions to the Longwood Families in Need Program..
Mayor Sackett read an,electronic mail dated December 12, 2008 from Ms.
Evelyn Cohen to Ms. Meli asking for Mrs. Putz to be recognized for all of
her contributions to the Longwood Families in Need Program. He
presented Mrs, Putz with a Certificate of Appreciation. Photographs were
then taken.
5. BOARD APPOINTMENTS.
A. District #3 Nomination to the Ethics Committee.
Commissioner Holt nominated 1VIr. Randy Porter, 401 Tullis Avenue, to
the Ethics Committee. Nomination carried by a unanimous voice vote. ~
6. PUBLIC INPUT. ~ ~
A. Public Participation. None.
7. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT. No report.
8. .MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS' REPORT.
District #1. No report.
District #2. Commissioner Durso reported Mrs. Putz also made donations to the
children in the Seminole County Program and thanked her for~her generosity. He
said he would be attending the Tri-County League of Cities meeting. He
referenced Item 9 C of the Consent Agenda regarding the Futsal Court. He asked
than City staff develop. a low cost, high impact ad campaign to let citizens know of
services that are available. He stated he had discussed with Ms. Meli regarding
some ideas the City can use to let people know about the various programs.
Commissioner Durso said he had some questions regarding the Severn Trent
Contract. He requested information on December 15~' which he has not received.
Mr. Drago said it was his understanding that Ms. Rogers was to have a meeting
with Commissioner Durso to frame the financial information he was requesting.
He .stated this meeting has not taken place.
CC O1-OS-09/ 2
Commissioner Durso said he would still like a copy of the Contract.
~ District #3. No report.
I
District #4. Commissioner Bundy reported the Commissioners have all been
contacted by the Dog Track regarding their expansion .plans as well as having •
been contacted from the Church. He said when they were working with ACi
regarding mixed-use and the design. standards that ACi has the ability to work
with the City on economic development issues. He suggested with this project,
and several other projects, it would behoove the City to have Ms. Rogers get some
numbers from ACi and have them act as a City representative.~He stated this
would be an opportunity for the City to move forward in a professional manner.
He asked for a consensus from the Commission to have City staff contact ACi to
come up with some numbers and a game plan, and then place this on as an agenda
item. He declared this would be a good investment for the City.
Mayor Sackett said he would be in agreement to have staff make those contacts to
ACi to see what they can do to spur development.
Commissioner Holt inquired if they were asking to look at ACi as a consultant to
businesses coming to the community.
Commissioner Bundy said ACi would be more of a Technical Facilitator for the .
City. He stated they were already under contract with the City and the contract
~ could be amended.
Mr. Drago said lie believed it was in their contract to act as the City's consultant
when developers, come in for a design review..
Commissioner Bundy suggested they could formalize this more by placing a
dollar amount. He said there were several projects on the board. He stated ACi
has been great and it was unfair to impose on them something they normally get
paid to do.
It was the consensus of the Commission to have staff obtain the information from
ACi and bring it forward at the February 2, 2009 City Commission meeting.
Mr. Drago inquired if the Commission would be interested in tying this to a pass
through fee with a large developer.
Commissioner Bundy said as long as this was set up so the developer was paying
the City.
Commissioner Bundy said they have started the search process for the City
Administrator. He stated they don't know how long this will take. He suggested
CC O1-OS-09/ 3
_ r
they direct the Personnel Manager to start making contacts regarding availability
of Interim Administrators. ~ ~.J '
District #5. Mayor Sackett wished everyone a Happy New Year and to move ~
forward with a positive year..
9. CONSENT AGENDA.
A. Approve Minutes of the December 8, 2008 Special Meeting and the
December 15, 20.08 Regular Meeting.
B. Finance Division of the Financial Services Department recommends
payment of approved and estimated bills for January 2009.
C. The Recreation Division of the Community Services Department,
recommends the City Commission approve a purchase order for the
Futsal Court construction project at Candyland Park to Ovation
Construction, Inc. in the amount of $53,695.73 and authorize the City
Administrator to sign. all appropriate documents.
D. Public Utilities Division recommends the City Commission approve a
change order in the amount of $289,704.82 to Purchase Order
Number 13087 for a total Purchase order amount of $636,816.82 for
Blue Ox Enterprises, LLC to construct wader system pipe replacement
in the Shadow Hills subdivision and authorize the City Administrator ~ ~
to sign all appropriate documents:
Commissioner Bundy moved to approve the Consent Agenda as
submitted. Seconded by Commissioner Durso.
Discussion was ..held regarding Item D.
Commissioner Holt said at the last meeting there were three Consent Items
pulled for discussion. He had indicated he would be voting no on those
three items. However, the vote ended up being on the entire Consent
Agenda. He wanted to clarify that his intent was to vote no on those three
items only. He inquired if, in the future, they could vote on those items
separately. .
Ms. Roper said they could vote separately on pulled items and then go
back to the Consent Agenda for the remaining items.
Motion carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
10. PUBLIC HEARINGS: None.
CC O1-05=09/ 4
11. REGULAR BUSINESS.
~ A. The Community Development Division of the Community Services
Department recommends the City Commission discuss a proposal by
CBS Outdoor to remove the billboard located at the Township Plaza
and rebuild it a few feet west of its current location and provide
direction deemed appropriate.
Mr. Sizemore said CBS Outdoor approached the City regarding the
billboard; located on a piece of leased property out of the Township Plaza
parcel. There is an existing billboard structure there and CBS is looking to
make some improvements to it. The City's Sign Ordinance has provisions
that set the number of billboards currently allowed in the City. He stated
there was a provision for the removal of billboards. In order for that to
happen and allow the billboard to be reconstructed, there has to be an
agreement between the City and the applicant prior to proceeding with that
process. He affirmed there were not a lot of specifics on the type of
agreement that would be required of the stipulations to be involved. This
would bel a legally binding agreement between the City and the applicant
and places it at the Commission's discretion on whether to approve it. He
said the Applicant requested this item be placed on the Agenda to discuss
the feasibility of such an agreement prior to their moving forward with
their legal teams working with the. City Attorney on drafting such an
agreement..
~ Bobby Hill, Real Estate Representative for CBS Outdoor, 2687 South
Design Court, Sanford, said they have a billboard that has been in it's
location for more than 20 years. They are proposing putting in an LED
billboard. He stated one of their competitor's has an LED billboard in
Longwood at 17-92 and 434. At that site, the structure supported the LED
billboard ~ He affirmed the structure at Rangeline and State Road 434 was
not strong enough to support an LED sign. He said the new billboard poles
are vibrated into the ground and they would need to put in a new pole to
support the weight of the structure. They have been working closely with
the property owner and he was in favor of this. He stated they would like
to know if the City would consider allowing them to relocate the sign just.
a few feet over.
Mayor Sackett .inquired if they were talking LED on one side or both
sides.
Mr. Hill said it would be on one side only, on the east side. He stated the
maximum size for an LED was 672 square feet which is a little larger than
the current sign. He advised they only make two sizes of the LED signs,
10 x 40 and 14 x 48. He said they would have to completely remove the
existing sign and pole and put in a new pole and sign.
CC O1-OS-09/ 5
Mayor Sackett asked Mr. Sizemore when the monument sign was
reviewed, what did they discuss when it carne to billboard signs. He said
the goal was to get rid of billboards in the City.
Mr. Sizemore said the Ordinance was structured in such a way that it
prevents new billboard signs from showing up. He stated that having the
provision of requiring the agreement, means that if they want to remove
one, they are required to obtain permission from the Commission to put a
new sign in its place. He advised there were 19 billboard signs at this time
and if one goes away with no agreement in place to replace it, then the
number drops to 18 and there cannot be any .new ones.
Mayor Sackett inquired if they could place conditions on the sign such as
allowing the City to advertise on it.
Mr. Hill said they were the largest outdoor advertising firm in the United
States. They deal with cities and counties and follow their ordinances. He
stated they wanted to discuss this with the City prior to negotiating a new
lease. He advised they recently vibrated a pipe in the ground
approximately nine feet from a building and this was a much more safe
way to put a pipe in the ground.
Deputy Mayor Maingot inquired how far from the curb was the existing
I
sign. ~ ~
Mr. Hill said they were currently at the 15 foot setback. He stated they did
meet with FDOT regarding the expansion of State Road 434, and the sign
will meet the setback requirements.
Commissioner Holt said .this was not going to be a centered sign. He stated
the road was coming through and they must be moving the sign because
FDOT has told them it interfered with the road design.
Mr. Hill responded in the affirmative. He said they obtained maps from
. .the engineers in order to pick a spot.
Commissioner Holt inquired what kind of bonds they had with vibrating
the pole.
Mr. Hill said they use subcontractors they have worked with for years that
have multimillion dollar insurance policies.
Discussion ensued regarding having LED advertising on .both sides of the
sign.
I
CC O1-OS-09/ 6
Mr. Hill said the .marketing was not feasible at this time to advertise on
both sides. He stated the eastbound traffic may support a tri-vision sign.
Commissioner Durso asked Mr. Hill to clarify where they were proposing
to move the sign.
Mr. Hill pointed out on a photograph the area being proposed.
Commissioner Durso inquired, if when the road is widened, will the base
of the sign still meet the Code.
Mr. Hill said it would be exactly across from the. same location.
Commissioner Bundy said the outer most portion of the sign was required
to have a 15 foot setback. He inquired if the State was acquiring additional
right-of--way in this area.
Mr. Sizemore. said as far as he knew, not at this time.
Commissioner Bundy said once they get up to Rangeline Road there will
be a merge lane. He stated if the State requires any additional right-of-
way; it will not be within the 15 feet. I=Ie said he did not want to create a
situation or problem in the suture. He stated the original plans called for a
Fifth Third Bank in this area. He said the other LED signs are not allowed
i to change their message more often than every five minutes due to public
safety.
Mr. Hill said this was an unusual situation where they don't have to go to
the State; to obtain a State tag. He stated they want to make sure they are in
the right -spot if this road. does expand. He has asked the property owner: to
allow relocating the sign further back.
Commissioner Bundy said the billboard was there and they were not
letting go of billboard locations. He suggested the Commissioners meet.
individually with staff to let them know what they would like to include in
the agreement. Mr. Sizemore can then forward this to Mr. Hill to review.
Mayor Sackett said he would like to offer input to City staff to compile a
document.
Deputy Mayor Maingot said he would like to see this sign go away.
Commissioner Durso said they have to negotiate with them so not to
contribute further to the neglect on this property. He stated this particular
urea was an area of potential significant economic development for the
City. Having this sign there could either help or hurt.
CC O1-OS-09/ 7
Commissioner Holt inquired if CBS Outdoor had to move the sign
because of.the road expansion project.
Mr. Hill advised they have not been told that, but the preliminary plans for
the road expansion, which are not finalized, could have the tip of the sign
lead -into the 15 foot setback. He stated they also mentioned how long it
will be before this road expands.
Commissioner Bundy said they could not make this billboard go away
without writing. them a check. He stated they can renew the lease on the
existing sign. He said he would rather see something newer and attractive
there on which they can negotiate terms.. He declared this was a unique
opportunity for the City.,
Mayor Sackett said they have a recommendation to meet individually with
staff. He would like to see them all meet with staff within a week to ten
days.
Commissioner Durso requested staff to be proactive in setting up the
meetings to get this done as quickly as possible.
Commissioner Bundy moved that the. Commissioners meet with
staff individually within. one week to ten days. Seconded by
Commissioner Holt and carried by a four/one roll. call vote with
Deputy Mayor Maingot voting nay.
Mayor Sackett requested this be an agenda. item the first Commission
meeting in February..
B. The City Clerk requests the City Commission discuss Section 2-313,
Paragraph (t) Failure to attend meetings of the, City Code and give
staff the direction deemed appropriate.
1VIs. Mires said this matter was briefly discussed at the December 15~' City
Commission meeting under her report. The Commission requested she
bring this item forward for further discussion.
Mayor Sackett said the Code currently states, "Any member who fails to
attend three meetings of a board and committee in a 12-month calendar
year shall automatically forfeit his appointment and the city commission
shall fill such vacancy as soon as possible." He stated they also discussed
that this included special meetings, but not emergency meetings. He said if
a member missed three meetings in one calendar year they could be re-
appointed the next year.
~i
CC O1-OS-09/ 8
Commissioner Durso said there were two changes he would like to see
~ made to the Policy. The first is changing it from three meetings per
calendar year to another number per term. He stated, theoretically, it was
possible to miss four meetings in a row and not face any consequence
whatsoever. He said in his case, there was an appointment made through
his District Seat that took effect after he took office and he had no input in
this matter. That person was off the Board and re-appointed to serve,
denying him. the right to appoint someone for the next three-years. The
second change he would like to see is to include an election exception
where a City Commissioner who is either resigning or is in a contested
race for re-election may not make an .appointment or reappointment to any
board or committee if the term of the appointment begins after Election.
Day. He stated he would like the City Attorney to alter the subsequent
sections to the Code to make those changes. He said it was only fair that.
people who are elected be able to make appointments. He stated it is their
responsibility to appoint people they believe will institute the policies and
beliefs that they put forth as elected officials.
. Deputy Mayor Maingot said he did not entirely agree with this, as the
incumbent has the authority to make this appointment. To restrict that is
denying them their right.
Commissioner Durso said he would like to point out that he was denied
~ the right'to appoint a member to the Codes Enforcement Board fora three-
year term by a Commissioner who made an appointment that took effect
after he was a sworn Commissioner.
Mayor Sackett suggested they first discuss the absences per calendar year
versus per term:
Commissioner Bundy said he felt strongly about attendance to board
meetings. He stated if you are going to participate, this was part of the
responsibility. He said he would like to see removing the wording.
"calendar year" and have it a rotating 12-month and you. could also say
five meetings within a term. He stated several of the boards do not meet
monthly. He suggested they could state five times within a term or three
meetings within any 12-month period.
Deputy Mayor Maingot said he would like to see one possible exception to
• this; if a person in good standing happens to fall. ill after missing two
meetings:
Commissioner Durso said if someone does fall ill, that Commissioner can
theoretically understand and re-appoint that person. He stated there was a
lack of accountability and people can skirt the rules.
CC O1-DS-09/ 9
Mayor Sackett asked the City Clerk if other cities had anything similar to
• this. He said he liked the idea of term, but did not know what the magic
number would be. .
Commissioner Bundy said you didn't want to make it too many. He stated
to address Deputy Mayor Maingot's concern; they already have the ability
to re-appoint.
~Ms. Minis stated that she could research that information.
Mayor Sackett inquired if the notification came after missing two
meetings.
Ms. Minis responded in the affirmative.
Mayor Sackett said they also needed to include when notification would
occur. He asked the City Attorney if there was any problem with changing
the wording.
Ms. Roper said as long as it was not in the Charter. She suggested they
also needed to define what a meeting was. In her opinion, as it stands now,
it would be any meeting, including emergency meetings.
Commissioner Bundy said prior to the current. Ordinance, each Board ~
wrote their own rules and regulations. He stated their.intention previously ~
was to include regular meetings and special meetings, but not emergency
meetings. He said this was an oversight by whoever drafted the Ordinance.
Mayor Sackett reiterated they will use the wording "per term". He
requested the City Clerk research what other cities are doing, He said they
were discussing five meetings.
Commissioner Bundy said it would overlap. Ifyou miss three in any 12-
month period you are off the board, or if you miss five in a term.
Ms. Roper inquired if they were going to exclude emergency meetings.
She suggested to include "with permission" or "excused" so that they are
not automatically excluded.
Commissioner Durso said that was reasonable..
It was the consensus of the Commission that the Chair of the Board
determines if a member is excused from an emergency meeting.
Commissioner Durso said the second part would basically prohibit a
Commissioner who is resigning and/or running for re-election in a -
CC O1-OS-09/ 10
contested race from making an appointment that would take effect after
~ ~ Election Day.
Mayor Sackett inquired if this would be legal. - ~ -
Ms. Roper said she would need to research the rights of a sitting
Commissioner and whether this can be prohibited. -
Mayor Sackett asked the City Clerk to forward the information she obtains
to the City Attorney. He requested the City Attorney .draft something for
the Commission to review prior to-the meeting.
Commissioner Holt clarified if the 12-month period commenced upon
appointment and a member can only miss three meetings within the 12-
month period or five meetings within a term.
- Ms. Mirus responded in the affirmative.
12. CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT. No report.
13. CITY CLERK'S REPORT. Ms. Mirus reported the Martin Luther King, Jr.
Award will be presented at the next meeting. Also, at the February 2nd
Commission meeting the JOY Awards will be presented.
Commissioner Bundy inquired when the Resolution would be brought forward
that the Commission reached a consensus on regarding eliminating At Will
Contracts, and who would be presenting it.
Mayor Sackett said he thought it was coming through the Attorney's Office.
Ms. Mirus said she understood it would be the Attorney's Office since
Commissioner Bundy spoke to Mr. Roper regarding the matter.
Commissioner Holt inquired about the information provided to them from the
City Attorney's. Office..
Ms. Roper said the Commission had requested Mr. Roper to provide periodic
updates on all litigation.
De~uty Mayor Maingot said he would be having surgery on Wednesday, January
14 and he was riot sure whether he would be able to attend the January 19~'
Commission meeting.
CC O1-OS-09/ 11
14. ADJOURN. Mayor Sackett adjourned the meeting at 8:46 p:m.
A
L~~ C!
Brian D. Sackett, May
ATTEST:
'~j
Sarah M. Mirus, CMC, MBA
City Clerk
~I
CC ~01-OS-09/ 12