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~,, ILongwood City Commission Chambers
175 West ~darren Avenue
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NgA~' 21, 20®7
70®0 P.P'1.
Present: Mayor John C. Maingot
Deputy Mayor Mike Ilolt
Commissioner H.G. "Butch" Bumdy, Jr.
Commissioner Brian D. Saickett
Commissioner Dan Anderson
Teresa S. Roper, Acting City Attorney
John J. Drago, City Administrator
Sarah M. Mirus, City Clerk
.Paul Sizemore, Interim Director of Community Services
Richard I~ornbluh, Division Manager of Utilities
Tom Jackson, Police Chiei'
Ryan Spinella, Executive Assist:~nt
',~, ~ 1. ~ CALL TO ORDER. Mayor Maingot cabled the meeting to order at 7:03 p.m.
2. A moment of SILENT MEDITATION was followed by the PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE.
3. COMMUNITY ANNOUNCEMENTS. Ms. Mirus read the following
announcement:
A. Rock the Park- Candyland Parl;, 599 Longdale Avenue, Thursday,
May 24, 2007, 6:00 p.m. uxxtil 9:~D0 p:m.
4. RECOGNITIONS.
A. District #1 Presentation. of the Business Person of the Month Award
for 1VIay 2007 to William C:. Bentley of Bentley Architects &
Engineers, Inc., located at 665 West Warren Avenue.
.Mayor Maingot read. a brief biography on Mr. Bentley and presented him
with the Business Person of the. Month Award for May 2007... Photographs
were then taken.
B. District #2 Nomination of the Business Person of the Month Award
for June 2007.
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Commissioner Anderson nominated Rafael and Ramona Paulino of Oasis
Cuban Cafe, located:at 295 Ronald .Reagan Boulevard. Nomination carried.
by a unanimous voice vote.
5. BOARD APP®INTMENTS. None.
6. PIJBI.,IC INPUT.
A. Public Participation. None.
7. CITY ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT. No report.
8. MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS' REPORT.
District #4. Commissioner Bundy said the. Fifth/Third. Bank will be requesting a
meeting to discuss the Pic'n Save property. He stated the State Legislature will be
meeting in Special Session on June l2~' regarding property taxes. He declared
there have been a lot of things said and some of the things he resented. He
reviewed some of the tax cut proposals and said the money needed to come from
somewhere to run the local governments. He stated there was a to"t of talk about
essential and non-essential services: He said he needed explained what non-
essential services were, so they would know where to cut funds from the budget.
He stated Longwood spent increased revenues hiring six (6) new firefighters and
paramedics and purchased new equipment.
District #5. No report.
District #1. Mayor Maingot.reported he met with. the President and CEO of the
Fifth/Third Bank for this area yesterday during, the inauguration of the Longwood
branch. He invited him to visit. with the City so he can .share in the City's vision.
He reported the Rock Lake Middle School students took first place in the U.S.
Army's eCI'MERMISSION competition. He asked for a concurrence to honor the
students.
It was the concurrence of the Commission to recognize the students of Rock Lake
Middle School.
District #2. No report.
District #3. Deputy Mayor Holt reported he was the City's representative of the
Seminole County Alliance which is a child advocacy group. He said they found a
lot. of different variables, and what do you do with the victims and the ones who
made them victims. He stated the Alliance came up with a Cabinet to bring
everyone together. He said they did a small presentation last month and it was
currently being scheduled for them to do a formal presentation.
9. CONSENT AGENDA.
A. Approve Minutes of the May 7, 2D07 Regular Meeting.
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B. Finance Division of the Financial Services Department recommends
payment of approved and estimated bills for June 2007.
C. Finance Division of the Financial .Services Department recomiriends
approval of the 1Vlonthly F:inaneiial Report foi- Apri12007.
Commissioner Bundy moved to approve the Consent Agenda as
submitted. Seconded by Commissioner Anderson and carried by a
unanimous roll call vote.
10. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
A. The'Finance Division of the Financial Services Department
recommends City Commission read by title. only and adopt Ordinance
07-1829 which amends the Fiscal Fear 06/07 Budget.
Ms. Roper announced having proof of publication for all hearings listed on
the agenda. She then read Ordinance .No. 07-1829 by title only.
Mayor Maingot opened the. public hearing. No one spoke in favor or in
opposition to the Ordinance.
Commissioner Sackett moved to close the public hearing.
l Seconded by Deputy Mayor Holt and carried by a unanimous voice
~ vote. .
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Deputy Mayor Holt moved. to adopt Ordinance No. 07-1829, as
presented, Item 10 A. Seconded by Commissioner Sackett and
carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
B. The Community Development Division of the Community Services
Department recommends the City Commission :read by title only and
adopt Ordinance No. 07-1828 amending (L,DCA 02-07) the Longwood
Development Code.
Ms. Roper read Ordinance 1\ o. 07-1828 by title only.
Larry Adams, ACi, thanked everyone in the audience for attending the
presentation. He said ACi would be reviewing a summary of the Design
Guidebook and how it work.>. He stated this started with whatwas called
"The Hamlet Vision." He said there were a lot. of comments received. He
stated they looked at the conununi~ty based on 2006 and 2007 market
based research and they also studied the history of Longwood.. He stated
Longwood was started with very basic ideas. He declared the more things
look the same, the less valuable they become. He said there was a
Commuter Rail coming soon and Longwood will have a Commuter Rail
~- stop. He stated it was important to develop this into more than a parking
~~ ~ lot. He outlined the recommendations for the Commission and gave the
background regarding, the Design (suidebook. He said they need to
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embrace the local area and their needs. He reviewed the Market
Expenditure Profile to include secondary trade areas and primary trade ~
areas. He said they were not recommending Longwood change overnight,
but there is an opportunity to attract and create more of destination
opportunities for the residents. He reviewed photographs to review the
various models and best practices of what was being built. He said the idea
was to provide more connectivity and sense of place. He affirmed they
were looking for higher quality, patterns that address what is missing in
the market, and public friendly guidelines acid standards. He emphasized
that they believe in an evolutionary process versus a revolutionary
process. He said they want people to express themselves and be given the
opportunity to be heard. He reviewed the advantages and disadvantages of
the Longwood Design Guidebook: He said they were not invading the
residential neighborhoods and would be increasing the buffers between the
developments. He advised the Longwood Development Code remains the
City's technical foundation. He said they would be talking about the
importance of the medical aspects and education. He explained the
Guidebook is the form based application, and how one would~visualize
and understand the designs. He said t_he real goal was to provide higher
quality development and investment at a lower cost to the public. He
stated this creates greater diversities of housing and retail. He said Warren
Avenue provides a fantastic opportunity to become the center of
Longwood's daily life: He said it was important to preserve open space.
He confirmed Longwood was not a beggar community and has an average
household income of over $73,000 a year. He said they need some ~
awareness and education and this information will continue to be available
for those interested in learning. He said this would create more value. He
reviewed the areas of great importance to include Historic, Health, Transit,
Commercial, Gateways and entrances to the City, and Nature areas: He
said the vision. has translated itself into eight (8) unique Districts. He
reviewed these Districts to include The Heritage Village, The Artisan
Village, The Lyman District, The General Hutchinson District, The Island
Lake District, The Health Core,. The Historic District, and The Future -
Transit Village. He said it is not always about. retail, but he would like to
make it known that thanks to Fifth/Third Bank's leadership, they have
been able to bring in Publx Supermarkets. He said they conclude by re- .
imagining, redefining, and reconnecting.
Mayor Maingot opened the; public hearing. The following spoke in favor
to the Ordinance:
Dr. George W. Sandland, Jr., owner of Retail Resources; Inc., 939
Longdale Avenue, said they were the co-broker in the sale of the former
Pic'n Save building to Fifth/Third Bank. He stated from the presentation,
everything soLmds very positive.
Harvey Gilman, 993 Burlwood Court, said he heard the presentation and ~
did not hear mention of post educational facilities..
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Mr. Adams said that was a great observation. He stated it was thought of
`~ and they tall{ed about the opportunities for 24 hour campuses with digital
J arts. He stated -they have intentions to talk with Seminole County
Community College. He said he vaas hearing they need. to be a little more
aggressive.
Commissioner Anderson said he aj~preciates bringing this forward. He
said bringing people to Longwood and keeping them hereby attracting
people to the cafes and coffee shops. He said they want to create the
places so people stay in the City acid are redirected here.
Mayor Maingot said the in~~ividual Commissioners attend meetings and
have a lot of interaction with Seminole Community College.
Jerry Chilik, 109.1 Foggy Brook Place, said he has lived in Longwood for
29 years. He went to the last Commission meeting and. said the vision was
fantastic. His concern is about the development of State Road 434 as it
looks today. He provided pictures :he had taken of that area and said it is
great to have a vision for the future;, but would like them to share what
plans are being done to beautify the area.
Mayor Maingot said they have been working very diligently with DOT
and on the 434 project, He asked 1\~1r. Drago to give an update.
}~- Mr. Drago said the road widening. of 434 was a collaborative effort
between the CoLU1ty and State. He advised the County was paying for the
engineering design of the roadway and the State was buying the right-of-
way and doing the improvements. He said they have had several meetings
with them where the City has emphasized some of the concerns, one of
which is the elimination of the wires. He stated every concern the City
proposed to them was too costly. fIe advised the City does not have
control of this project. He said they have discussed these issues with them
and it comes down to the money. He declared the overhead wires would
not be going away as the State would not pay for this.
Commissioner Bundy said tl~e sigr~age issue would be addressed in Item
10 C. He stated over 60,000 cars come through Longwood everyday and
engineers build roads that get you :from Point A to Point B. He said
enough public out-cry would. accomplish_ more. He suggested information
be placed on the City's website with links and information, so the public
can send their comments.
Mr. Drago said if the entire l'ie'n ~>ave-site was redeveloped, then the
billboard would go away. He: stated some of the fast food restaurants
1 would go away when the right-of-way is taken. He said they hope to have
some cluster developments along the corridor. He stated there will be a
~,. certain amount of retail in the single format due to the size and location of
. property. One of the biggest problems Longwood has is when a developer
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looks at property to purchase they prefer to deal with only one or two
individuals, not multiple property owners. He said when the Commission
targeted those districts there were certain properties within the districts
that can be amassed very easily. With the train station, the State will be
taking most of that property by Eminent Domain. He affirmed developers
can work around this issue.
Commissioner Anderson said several years ago they were in negotiations
with the power company. He stated something they learned at that time
was if the community wan"ts the power lines underground, they have no
authority to underground the utilities. Only the' power company has that
authority. Progress Energy told the City they would be very glad to
underground the power lines provided it is being paid for by another
source. He affirmed if the residents were willing to pay additional taxes
they could have the underground utilities. However, the ownership would
be Progress Energy. He said a previous Commission wanted to get control
of the billboards. The current Code does not allow any additional
billboards. The State Legislature said we can't take them away because
they are someone's property and income. He said if the residents care
about the roads, the Commission needs the help of the residents by making
this known to the County Commissioners.
Mayor Maingot said time was not on our side. He stated the Commission
was not, about to give up, and with the residents' help everything is
possible. ~~
Mr. Chilik inquired if the City could post the names of the people they can
contact on-the website.
Commissioner Sackett said the overall goal of State Road 434 was to get
people .from I-4 to 41'7 faster. He stated this ignores Longwood and makes
us a drive-thru community. He said they don't need to accept that and the
City needs the community's help in not accepting this by getting onboard
with this mission and vision.
Commissioner Bundy said this was going to stop at Rangeline Road going
from six lanes to four lanes. He stated it will also be completed prior to the
intersection improvements at I-4. He asked the residents to keep this -in
mind when making contact.
Mr. Drago said they will also place the letter he wrote to the State and the
State's response on the City"s website.
Mayor Maingot said the presentation this. evening does. not start and end
with State Road 434. He stated it was a much larger vision.
Deputy Mayor Holt reiterated that 434 was a State Road and the City did ~~
not. have control. He said when. the County came through with Cotuzty
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Road 427 the City and County worked out agreements on the design of the
road through the City.
Mr. Adams said there were privatF. and. City-owned roads in the City that
they would be providing incentives to the private sector as they come to
develop in regards to underground utilities.
No one spoke in opposition i:o the Ordinance.
Deputy Mayor Holt moved. to close the public hearing. Seconded
by Commissioner Sa~:,kett and carried by a unanimous voice vote.
Commissioner Bundy moved to adopt Ordinance No. 07-1828, as
presented and move iorwai;d. Seconded by Commissioner Sackett
and carried by a unarumou;~ roll call vote.
The Commission recessed at .8:42 p.m. and reconvened at 8:54 p.m.
C. The Community Development Division of the Community Services
Department recommends the City Commission read by title only, set
June 4, 2007 as the second public hearing date and .approve the first
reading of Ordinance 07-1!326 to amend the Longwood Development
Code (LDCA 01-07j. .
Ms. Roper read Ordinance I~~o. 07-1826 by title only.
Mr. Spinelli said in his dutie-s as the Assistant City Administrator, decided
to provide assistance to the Community Services Department with the sign
ordinance and the information was. summarized in the item. He stated he
would welcome any questions.
Deputy Mayor Holt entered ithe mf;eting at this point.
Mayor Maingot opened the public hearing. No one spoke. in favor or in
opposition to the Ordinance.
Commissioner Sackett moved to close the public hearing.
.Seconded by Deputy Mayar Holt and carried by a unanimous voice
vote.
Mr. Sizemore said, as Mr. Spinelli stated, the item surmnarizes the items
addressed in the sign code amendment. He stated this was based on taking
the matrix that compared several cities throughout the State, to include a
couple of local cities that are generally perceived to have good sign codes.
He declared the. basic skeleton and. structure of Longwood's sign
ordinance was very good and it was easy to remove the sections not
~ resulting in the types of signs the (:ommission indicated they wanted to
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see. This was replaced with language that. would produce the type of
signage that was in keeping with the vision the Commission expressed.
Deputy Mayor Holt moved to approve the first reading of
Ordinance No. 07-1826 and set June 4, 2007 as the second public
hearing, as presented, Item 1'0 C. Seconded by Commissioner
Sackett.
Commissioner Anderson said when looking through the summary and the
Ordinance he appreciated that staff well addressed the issues brought up
by the Commission.
Commissioner .Sackett inquired how people would be notified that their
sign needs to conform and be replaced within 7 years. He said there was
one corner store that seems to know the City does not have Codes
Enforcement Officers on duty on Sunday and they flash their signs. He
asked how an Ordinance was relayed to everyone so there was not an "I
didn't know"'situation.
Mr. Spinella said these items were published in the newspaper for public
notification. He stated in the particular instance such as the alcohol
ordinance, a letter was recently sent to all of the businesses allowed to sell
alcohol in the City. He said it would. be cost prohibitive to ,send out a huge
mailing each time an Ordinance was adopted.
Commissioner Sackett said signs. could be critical to people since they
would be developing these. He stated this was quite detailed and he would
want to make sure there was 100% awareness.
Commissioner Anderson said when a sign was damaged and needed to be
replaced they will be required to request a permit. and that is when they
could be informed. He said the website is a much better communication
tool. He declared the Lamplighter, the water bill, and the website were
great communication tools. He'suggested a letter be sent to the property
owners a year or 6 months before the date on non-conforming signs.
Mayor Maingot said this Ordinance was crafted to pay more attention to
garage sales and real estate signs. He stated he had some reservations
about some of the information with regards to garage sales and real estate
signs. He said some control needs to be there, but. they also need to protect
the rights of the citizens. in the City. He declared the way it is structured,
there is no way a potential purchaser can determine there is a house for
sale within a subdivision because real estate signs are prohibited from
being in the right-of--way. He suggested all real estate signs be permitted,
both private and by a company, with a fee of $25 being charged for a
permit to be issued for 90 days and thereafter it may be renewed for an l
additiona190 days for a fee of $20. He said real estate or private signs ~1
could continue to be used only at the property location. The City would
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produce "Home For Sale" signs to be used exclusively in the public right-
of-way. He stated this would place; the City in control with a generic sign.
~'' He said when there were multiple homes for sale in the subdivision, the
sign would be changed to "Homes for Sale." In addition, up to three
directional signs can be used on Saturday and Sunday for each permitted
property. He stated if there tivere two entrances to the subdivision, a sign
would be placed at each entrance. He further suggested, with regards to
Garage Sales; one sign.per entrance from Friday 7:00 a.m. to Sunday b:00
p.m. and up to three directional si€;ns; two of ~vhich could be used in the
right-of--way. In the case of a cozrv.nunity garage sale, they would produce
their own sign and only one would be allowed for the same time period.
He declared .garage .sale signs were minuscule compared to one trying to
sell their home.
Deputy Mayor Holt apologised for being late coming back in. He was
talking to a person outside v~Tho painted their building and was told by
Codes Enforcement they could no~~. and to come to the City regarding the
matter. He said it all falls in line with how to get the word out to the
public. He stated the onus was on the property owner or person leasing the
property to check with City ]Hall before doing any work. He stated when
they first brought up the sign issue: he brought in an example for a generic
garage sale sign and it was shot down. One of the reasons was that people
like to make their own signs. He said some people own multiple properties
in Longwood. According to the Ordinance, they could not put a sign. in
ice- their yard with an arrow positing to other property advertising the house
for sale. He declared they needed i:o think about how the wording is and
come up with something appropriate. He said it had been suggested a sign
could be placed at the cluste:c maiTboXes and that was not approved.:1=Ie
stated signs were being removed from private property and that was not
right. He affirmed they were on the right path, but they have not. reached
the point the Mayor was speaking about.
Commissioner Bundy said. that he agreed with some and disagreed with
some of what has been stated. He ~~greed the City does have a
responsibility to educate people when doing something like signage. He
said he never had to get a permit to paint a building, so why would anyone
getting ready to paint their building check with the City to see. what color
they can use. He reiterated we have a responsibility to notify people when
making radical changes. He said ii.'the City fulfills their responsibility and
sends the notices, then the o~zus is put on the property owner. He
suggested each Commissioner meet tivith staff going into more detail. ,Staff
ean then develop a matrix just on t:he real estate and garage sale signs. He
suggested tabling that portion and. a little more research be done. He stated
6 months was not adequate notice to a business that they need to replace
their sign.
'~ Commissioner Sackett said he would not support what was said with
regards to the real estate sighs. He stated he could see a scenario where the
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front entranceway to a subdivision would have "House for Sale" signs all
the time. He declared the educated way of doing things would be to do a
search on homes in Longwood. He said he would be agreeable to tabling
this. section for now, but he was not thinking in the same way.
Commissioner Anderson said he could see some merits in what. was being
stated. He stated there would always be a home for sale in the subdivision
and the sign would always be there. He declared with some more thought
they could find the solution.
Ms. Mirus advised she has been working on the garage sale signs. She said
there had been no communication regarding this issue and she had been
working on a prototype and had planned to bring it up at the June 4~'
Commission Meeting. She stated it was not clear whether the Commission
wanted to open the right-of-way.
Commissioner Bundy moved to table Item 10 C, the first reading
of Ordinance 07-1826 until a time that the Commissioners has had
an opportunity to meet with staff and they feel comfortable
bringing the item back.
Mr. Drago suggested the Commission may desire to hold a Workshop
after meeting with staff. He stated he remembered very clearly
Commissioner Bundy supported the right-of way placement of signs for i
garage sale signs and real estate signs were to be placed only on private. ~
property. He said the language in the item. was what the Commission had
agreed to.
Mayor Maingot suggested they agree upon a date at this time.
Commissioner Bundy suggested a Work Session be held on June l lcn
1VIr. Drago said he and Mr. Sizemore would need to know the concerns of
each Commissioner in order to devise a matrix.
Commissioner Bundy withdrew the previous motion and moved to
table tmtil after the Commission has held a Worl€ Session on June
1 lth regarding signs in their entirety. Seconded by Deputy Mayor
Holt and carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
11. REGiJI.A12 BUSINESS.
A. Cnty Administrator recommends the City Commission read by title
only, set June 4, 2007 as the public hearing date and approve the first
reading of Ordinance 07-131 amending the City Code relating to the
Community Building.
1VIs. Roper read Ordinance No. 07-1831 by title only.
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Deputy Mayor Holt moved. to approve the first reading of
Ordinance No. 07-1831 arrcending the City Code, as presented,
J Regular Item 11 A, and set June 4, 2007 as the public hearing date.
Seconded by Commissioner Bundy.
Commissioner Sackett inquired what the actual fee averaged where it is
referenced under actual costs per Y~uilding service fee.
Mr. Drago advised it was averaging $200 at this time. He said
Commissioner Anderson suggested the building service fee and the Police ,
Officer fee be charged at the actual cost when the building was rented. He
said this language would allow ch~~rging the actual fee without amending
the Ordinance.
Commissioner Sackett. inquired how much the building service fee would
fluctuate.
Mr. Drago said since the City uses a private service, this was put in there
for any future price increases.
Commissioner Sackett inquired if :people were made aware of the actual
cost when signing the contract.
Mr. Drago responded in the affirmative.
Commissioner Sackett inquired what it means if the City discovers or a
City resident acknowledges rentin;; the building as in amendment 1 D.
Mr. Drago said it could be prior to the rental, after, or during the course. of
the rental. He said they could hold onto the refund...
Ms. Roper said there were ol:her remedies such as refusing to rent the
building in the future to the individual.
Commissioner Sackett suggested the language be changed from
"discovers" to "ascertains".
Discussion ensued.
Mr. Drago advised he clarified Class A for non-resident and non-City.
Commercial City Businesses were added under Class C so if they wanted
to use the building. to promote their business, they could rent the building
at the City rental rate. He said a business owner who owns a business in
the City,. but lives outside the City and desires to rent the building for
personal use would pay the noxl-resident rate. He stated Ms. Roper
provided a copy of an affidavit to lie signed that verifies they understand
the ~nles and it becomes part of thc; contract.
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Commissioner Bundy said the way Historical Society handles a vendor
expanding their booth space by giving them the opportunity to come ~
within the confines of their .area. They are presented an invoice for
additional space if not complying and they are no longer eligible to
participate in the Festival. He suggested crafting language that states if
there is an outstanding balance no future- rentals will be allowed until the
balance is paid.
1VIr. Drago said the, City- always has the right to take someone to small
claims court. He said the way the Ordinance was crafted, it provides for
the right to cancel the reservation and refuse rentals in the future. He
stated they may b~e able. to add language to state,. "...until the outstanding
balance is paid."
Ms. Roper suggested. in the contract that. is signed they may be able to
have them agree that if it is ascertained after the deposit has been returned
and it is proven the building was rented for a purpose not originally stated
in the affidavit that they agree to be billed and pay for the difference. She
said this would be a paper trail for small claims court.
Commissioner Anderson said the Ordinance is going to be best if it is
simple. He said that was his reasoning in having the Ordinance
authorizing the actual cost. He said the Ordinance states the City reserves
the right to refuse rental of the facility. 'He stated they can spell out the
different conditions in the affidavit. He reiterated to keep the Ordinance ~
clean and easy and allow the changes to be done administratively. He said
his only concern was that everyone gets charged the. same amount for
some period of time. He suggested the costs be evaluated every 6 months.
Commissioner Bundy said the Commission needs to be made aware prior
to fees being changed and the.Commission has some say in that. He stated
with it in the Ordinance, that is the only way the Commission knows what
is going on.
Commissioner Bundy moved to extend the meeting. Seconded by
Commissioner Anderson and carried by a iulanimous voice vote.
Commissioner Anderson said he did not concur with the need to be told
every time the hourly rate of the Police Officer changes. He .stated he
views this Ordinance as giving the broad guidelines and the policy the
City wants to set. He aff rmed he would know every year when the salary
changes, the actual cost. would change .appropriately .and those are
administrative details. He said the Administrator was hired for those
reasons. He reiterated this was why they were setting the broad rules and
letting the City Administrator carry out the details.
Commissioner Bundy said he looks at the Community Building as an asset J
and that is why the Commission needs to have a say in what the rates are.
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He stated if they were going to state .actual cost, then there needs to be a
provision set for review at a particular time of the year. He said he did not
j"~ want the rates to fluctuate up and down.
Commissioner Anderson coxifirrned there needs to be a set time period for
the rates to be set. He said philosophically there. is the ability for the
Commission to .grab hold of too many details that. makes governing the
City unwieldy. He declared their job was to set the broad directions and to
give the guidelines of how they want it done and allow staff to work from
there. He said if things were not working out they then come back to the
Commission.
Deputy Mayor Holt said he iirxderstands what both Commissioners were
saying. He stated the AttornE;ys need to review this and figure out the grey
areas. He said the City Administrator and staff know the avenues in which
people were trying to manipulate `vhat is written. He stated their job was
to bring the Ordinance to the Commission with amendments in order to
circumvent those situations. He inrluired if Commissioner Anderson
wanted to take out the numbers on the page and;not reflect Amendment 3.
Commissioner Anderson responded in the negative. He said, within
reason, they need to set those; numbers. Part of the idea of saying the
actual cost was due to the Administrator coming to the Commission on a
fairly regular basis to change; those; numbers. He said the other numbers
aren't trying to cover the actual cost and are more of an Administrative
matter.
Deputy Mayor Holt said the. whole: point was to provide more teeth in the
Ordinance and if they need tie add to it, then the motion needs to be
amended for more clarification.
Commissioner Bundy said. the cleaning fee had not changed since 2002:
He stated the Police Officer rates €;oes up every year. He said they need to
set it at a rate and when it needs to be addressed then revisit.
Mr. Drago said if any of the fees needed to be adjusted he would have
brought this before the Corrnnission. He stated.ifnothing else changed he
would have brought the houx•ly rate of the Police Officer to the
Commission because this had to go up. He reiterated they had the other
problem and the Commissio~l was amenable to amend the Ordinance with
.recommendations. from the Cornm~ssion. He said there were several
options as far as the fees were concerned. They could leave the cleaning
fee at $200 or raise it $250. I3e stated he could provide a memo when the
actual costs needed to be increased relative to a tune frame or he could
bring it forward at a meeting.
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Commissioner Bundy moved to amend under Amendment 3 that
prior to any increase in costs the Commission is notified. Seconded
by Commissioner Anderson.
Mr. Drago inquired if this was only for the actual costs.
Commissioner Bundy responded in the affirmative.
Motion to amend carried by a four/one roll call vote with
Commissioner Sackett voting nay.
Main motion carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
B. City Administrator recommends the City Commission discuss
delegating to the City Administrator who shall act as temporary City
Administrator during temporary absences of the City Administrator.
After discussion, if the Commission deems Resolution 07-1168
appropriate; then a-ead by title only and adopt Resolution 07-1168.
Commissioner Bundy said if they have the City Administrator designate
who is going to act as City Administrator'then it needs to be clarified they
were not changing the aspect of the City Commission appointing who will
act as City Administrator if he is incapacitated.
Ms. Roper said if they feel this is not completely clear the language can be ~
added.
Mr. Drago said the Charter leaves provisions for the Commission to
designate an Interim or Temporary City_Administrator.
Commissioner Bundy said he did not want to create a conflict between this
and the Charter. '
Ms. Roper said- they can amend Seefion 2 by adding language to state
unless the City Administrator is incapacitated.
Commissioner Anderson suggested they table this to the next. meeting to
allow the language to be adjusted.
Ms. Roper agreed the Charter .gives the Commission the right to appoint
an Interim City Administrator regardless of this Resolution. She said if the
Commission. wants that spelled out she would be happy to revisit that
matter prior to the next meeting.
Deputy Mayor Holt said the reason he requested this to be brought
forward was in case something, happens and the City Administrator cannot
get here. He used the Hospital when it lost power as an example and ~'
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policy was in place for Lon€;wood's Battalion Chief to be in charge: He
stated he wanted the next person in line to be stated.
Commissioner Bundy said the Resolution does not state who will be in
charge, but, allows the City Administrator to appoint the designation.
Ms. Roper said this allows the designation of who is the Temporary City
Administrator to the actual circumstance it may require and it would be
ratified by the Commission.
Commissioner Anderson said the Charter states the Commission appoints
the Interim City Administrator and this allows the temporary appointment
through the City Administrator: He said this allows during an absence the
appointment of who would be the better qualified person at the time. He
said because of the way the Charter reads if a City Commissioner needs to
go to someone, the only person the; Charter allows is the City
Administrator. He stated this is saying to the Commissioners, you talk to
this person during my absence.
Deputy Mayor Holt said he would like to see it state in case of an
emergency stating a specific person.
Mayor Maingot said it should state: a position, not a name.
Mr. Drago .said if he were going out of town for a Conference, this would
allow him to tell the Commission in his memo who would be in charge.
during. his temporary absence.
Deputy Mayor Holt reiterated he wanted it in writing in the case of.an
emergency who they would go to.
Mr. Drago said in a case of an emergency such as the Hospital emergency
or a chlorine gas cloud the Fire Department would l~iow what, i~ do and he
would not need to be there. He said the same would apply if it were a
Police situation. They have certain procedures they go by and follow. He
said in the case of.a hurricane there; are also procedures in place that are
followed.
Commissioner Sackett asked the City Attorney what this actually does that
4..06(1) and 4.06(1)(a) does not do.
Ms. Roper advised it gives tl:~e Cit~r Administrator the job responsibility of
during his temporary absences defined as being on vacation, out of town,
temporary illness the ability i:o des~.gnate prior to that occurrence the exact.
l person to fill in for him durin~.g a time period of not less than 60 days, but
I,~ not if he is incapacitated. It gives him the responsibility of suggesting or
'~- telling the Commission who, in his opinion, is best. suited to fill that
position.
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Mayor Maingot said this was fine as long as they have competent people
around. He stated the City Administrator might move on and the new
Administrator decides he wants to appoint someone to act for him or her
in the Interim and the Commissioners do not agree with that. selection,
they don't have. any authority to say they disapprove.
Ms. Roper said it was her opinion that the Commission did have the
authority to disapprove. She said the Commission had the .right. to override
whomever the City Administrator appoints by virtue by what the Charter
itself states. She said this was intentionally created so it would not
conflict. She stated the Charter would supersede the Resolution.
Commissioner Bundy moved to table Item 11 B to the June 4~`
meeting. Seconded by Commissioner Anderson and carried by a
four/one roll call vote with Commissioner Sackett voting. nay.
12. CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT. No report.
13. CITY CLERK'S REPORT. Ms. Mirus reminded everyone of the Government
in the Sunshine Law Seminar to be held next Wednesday, May 30~' at the
Community Building beginning at 6:00 p.m.
14.
AD.TOURN. Mayor Maingot adjour-nevi the meeting at 10:36 p.m.
ATTEST:
Sarah 1VI. Nl;rus, C1VIC, City Clerk
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