Charter07-12-07Min ~ City of Longwood
2007- Charter Advisory Cornrrgittee
Longwood City Commission Chambers
175 West Warren Avenue
Longwood, Florida
MINUTES
July 12, 2007 7:00 P.M.
Present: Chair Joe Durso
Vice Chair Jack Caldwell
Member Tamara Cooper
1Vlember Douglas Damerst
Linda F. Goff, Recording Secretary
Absent: Member Susan McMahon
1. CALL TO ORDER. Chair Durso called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: June 14, :007 Organizational Meeting.
~ Vice Chair Caldwell moved to approve the minutes of June 14, 2007 as
presented. Seconded by Member Damerst and carried by a unanimous
voice vote.
3. PUPLIC INPUT. None.
4. REVIEW OF CHARTER.
Chair Durso said the next Charter Advisory Committee meeting is scheduled for
September 13th and this is Rosh Hashanah. He said if this conflicts with anyone
now would be the time to reschedule that: meeting.
A memorandum from Member Damerst regarding questions for the City Attorney
was distributed to the nieinbers.
Article I
Member Damerst said he would like to propose an amendment. He stated he was
thinking about the process and it would seem they should offer amendment
language to the Committee for discussion. He said they have talked about having
input from Department Heads and others, so he would not want anymore than
discussion.
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Chair Durso said the whole purpose of the discussions over the next few meetings
would be to come up with a final product towards the end. He suggested sending a
letter to the Department Heads following; this meeting expressing the Committee's
interest in their ideas and, after receiving. their input in writing, provide them the
opportuiuty to appear before the Committee. He stated if they amend one section,
chances are they will need to amend several articles throughout the document to
make it congruent. He suggested making this a procedure and combine them as
they go through, then at the end put together a final product to vote on and
recommend to the City Commission.
Member Damerst passed out a memorandwn recommending a proposed
amendment to Article I. He said Article was about the Creation and Power oil the
City. He stated governments in Florida were making great efforts to cooperate
with each other. He declared it is so important for cities to work with other
goverrunent entities. He stated this power he is suggesting for the Charter
broadens and encourages the City to work proactively in growth management,
emergency management,. and opens options for the City to make agreements .
where they see fit. He said for the proposed language he went to the Model
Charter by the Florida League of Cities. He recommended adding the following:
Section 1.02, bztergovernment Relations.
The city may participate by contract o~° otherwise with any governmental
entity of this state or any other state or states of the United States in the
performance of any activity which one or more of such entities has the
authority to undertake.
Vice Chair Caldwell said 11e also tried to read the Model Charter. He questioned if
this type of activity was denied the City.
Member Damerst said he could not fmd where the City was receiving authority to
make an agreement with another state. F[e found State Statute that empowered
muiucipalities to make agreements within their regions and with the State.
However, the scope did not go broader than that.
_ Chair Durso said there were very specific rules_with regards to how municipalities
interact with the State, counties, and the Federal governments. He stated he was
curious whether the City would need to ~3eal with or enter into any agreements
with other states. He said he was not so ;pure we needed to put something in law
that says they are allowed to deal with another state as there is nothing in the
Charter that prohibits dealing with anotrAer state. The City had to go through a
process to be .granted a Charter by the Si:ate of Florida. He suggested asking th.e
City Administrator to provide his feedb~:ck.
Vice Chair Caldwell said it was a viable point and the Charter is for operational
~ procedures not just for today, but, for tomorrow.
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Chair Durso said for the most part less ean be more in a lot of ways. If there is not
a problem, why create an issue. He stated it was a valid point and suggested they
discuss the matter after receiving feedback.
Member Damerst said he was serious about proposing this amendment, but would
be willing and open to withdrawing the proposed amendment as they learn
whether it has value or not.
It was the consensus of the Cormnittee to provide this proposed amendment. to the
City Administrator and the City Attorney for comments.
Article II
Reviewed with no reconunendations.
Article III -City Commission
Chair Durso said Member Damerst had ;some questions for the Acting City
Attorney that were distributed at the beginning of the meeting.
Section 3.01- Compensation, Qualifications of Members, Commission
Districts, Election,. ~'erm of office, Oath and Forfeiture
Member Damerst said his question for the Acting City Attorney regarding Section
3.01 (g) Election at Large was whether the Election at Large had raised any is;~ues
and he was asking in a way to have a yes or no answer. He stated one of the
pitfalls of an Election at Large was that. districts of the City do not take full
ownership of that representative on the (commission.
Vice Chair Caldwell said he was not clear on the Composition in Article III. F[e
said he understands they are elected at huge and not by district. He questioned. if
they 17ad to live in their district.
Chair Durso responded in the affirmative. He said they had to reside in their
district. He stated this assured the residents had equal representation.
Member Damerst said his question was 'to see if there were any issues to make; a
case for change.
Chair Durso said if this Committee was not comfortable with at large elections,
then they can make a reconunendation t~~ the Commission for an amendment.
Vice Chair Caldwell asked if there were any thoughts as to what the benefits were
one way or the other.
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~ Member Damerst said the model city charter did a good job of explaining
elections at large or by district.
Vice Chair Caldwell said this was a small conununity and he would question
whether the City was large enough to ga that way.
Chair Durso said it might be helpful to compare to other cities. He stated
Altamonte Springs has a strong Mayor and they run district wide. He said for the
purposes of a compromise they could look at the Mayor and Deputy Mayor
positions. He stated there were a nlunber of things that. could be considered with
regards to election laws.
Vice Chair Caldwell said they need to look at how it could benefit the City today
and in the near future.
Chair Durso said the answer given most often was that the benefit is that you ~~re
voting for your neighbor. It is government closest to the people. He suggested he
could send a letter to the Supervisor of Elections to ask if there would be any cost
savings to running citywide as opposed 'to running by districts. He said they
should be asking for information from a~ many sources as they can.
Section 3.02 -Compensation
Member Damerst said his question to the Acting City Attorney was regarding
whether the Commission could provide additional compensation to the Mayor for
additional duties. He said 3.02 does not allow the City to pay incurred expenses to
Commissioners and the City may be doing this. He is questioning if this section is
adequate for the practices.
Vice Chair Caldwell said going back to 3.01, did any member of the Committee .
desire to bring up anything about term limits. He said paragraph (c) Geographical
Districts, paragraph (2) states they shall be amended from time to time. He
questioned if this should be more specific in regards to who was responsible.
Chair Durso asked the Recording Secretary to provide the Ordinance that defines
the districts.
Vice Chair Caldwell said he was not aii advocate of term limits in office, but it
begs to be asked whether the Committee .had any interest in pursuing this matter.
Chair Durso said they may fall under Federal and State Laws with regards to germ
limits. He stated he would do some research into whether it could be changed.
Member Damerst said he would not be interested in changing to term limits.
Member Cooper said she also would not be interested in. changing to term limits.
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~ Member Damerst reiterated lus question regarding the language for compensation
was adequate to cover whether expenses were being paid to the Commissioners
and if the Mayor received additional compensation.
Vice Chair Caldwell said his questions were what the Commission was currently
being paid, was there a range and what the last increase was.
Section 3.03 -Mayor and Deputy 1VIa;~or
Chair Durso said if they change anythin; having to do with districts or anything to
do with the Mayor being directly elected, the first sentence would need to be
changed.
Vice Chair Caldwell said he did not understand. the. Mayor and Deputy Mayor
whether they were elected or rotated.
Chair Durso explained the Mayor was ellected by the Commissioners..
The Recording Secretary stated the Mayor was elected by the Commissioners the
first meeting in May and the Deputy Mayor rotates by District in November.
Section 3.04 -General Powers and Ditties
Reviewed with no recommendations.
Section 3.05 -Prohibitions
Member Damerst said Section 3.05 has paragraph (b), Interference with
Administration, which he likes. He stated the professionals, Department Heads
and the City Administrator need to be allowed to do their job. He said one of t;he
things that should go further than that was regarding appointments and removal of
Department Heads: He stated what was absent here was a prohibition by the
Conunssion from directing the City Administrator to remove someone from a
position. He said it seems that type of prohibition would make sense, but probably
only if there was also concurrently a revision in the Commission's role in the
approval of Department Head hiring. In the Charter the City Administrator
chooses and appoints Department Head:, but it is subject to approval by the City
Commission. He declared he was not quite comfortable with the Commission
having, their hand on who he selects as leis team. He said. this does not separate
well. He distributed some suggested language for a paragraph (c) as follows:
(c) ~pointments and Removal. The City Commission and its members
individually shall not in any manner control or dema~zd the appointment
or removal of any City Administrative Department Head or employee
whom the City Administrator or any subordinate of the City Administrator
is en2powered by this Charter or City Ordinance to appoint. The City
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~ Commission and its members indivia.'ually nzay express its views and fully
and freely discuss with the City Administrator anything pertaining to
appointment and ~
ei~zoval of such Department Heads and employees.
Vice Chair Caldwell said he had a bracket around the last sentence of the last
paragraph in this section. He stated this changed it around to a positive.
Chair Durso said he would ask the members to consider the Commission approval
as a check and balance. He stated ultimately the City Commission is responsible
for service to the public and they appoint the City Administrator.
Member Damerst said it comes up again under Section 5.01 (b).
Chair Durso said this was status quo government appointment.
Member Damerst said he still believes this helps to assure the public the City
Conullission doesn't have a heavy hand :in the appointments or removal of
Department Heads and employees under the City Administration. He suggested it
would be interesting to explore this with the Department Heads and the City
Administrator.
Chair Durso suggested they run this by the Acting City Attorney to check the
legalities. He said this could set a legal precedence in motion. He stated after
hearing from the Acting City Attorney an these issues, they will spend time at the
next meeting reviewing this information
Section 3.06 -Vacancies, Forfeiture oi' Office, Filling of Vacancies
Reviewed with no recommendations.
Section 3.07 -Judge of Qualification
Reviewed with no recommendations.
Section 3.0$ -Independent Audit
Reviewed with no recommendations.
Section 3.09 -Procedure
Reviewed with no recommendations.
Section 3.10 -Action Requiring an Ordinance
Reviewed with no recommendations.
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Section 3.11- Ordinances and Resoluitions
Reviewed with no recommendations.
Section 3.12 -Emergency Ordinances
Reviewed with no recommendations.
Section 3.13 -Codes of'B'echnical Regulations
Reviewed with no recommendations.
Section 3.14 -Authentication and Recording: Codification; Printing
Member Damerst inquired if every ten (a0) years was often enough for
codification.
Chair Durso pointed out it states "at least" and it could be done in a shorter period
of time.
The Recording Secretary explained there; were supplements to the Code on a
regular basis as Ordinances were adopted and codified.
~ ~ Chair Durso said this seems to be a good place to stop. He said for the next
meeting they would go back to the questions for Article III then continue the
review with Article IV and Article V.
5. ADJOURN. Chair Durso adjourned the: meeting at 8:13 p.m.
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ATTEST:
Linda F. Goff, Recor g Secretary
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