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CCMtg01-31-05WSMinLONGWOOD CITY COMMISSION Longwood City Commission Chambers 175 West Warren Avenue Longwood, Florida WORK SESSION MINUTES JANUARY 3I, 2005 7:00 P.M. Present: Mnyor R. G. "Butch" Bundy Deputy Ma}~or John C. Maiogot Commissioner Dan Anderson Commissioner Mike (fall Commissioner Brinn D. Sackers RieharU S. Traylor, Jr., Ciry~ Atfon:ey Joha J. Drago, Ci[y AAministnllor Snrah M1[. Mijares, Cil}'Clerk Pat \liller, Director of Commmtisy Sen'ices Frnn M11eli, Recreational Program M1lanager Carol Rogers, Director of Finanelat Services 1. CALL TO ORDFR Mayor Bondy celled the meeting to order at'l:04 pm Commissioner SackeH moved to suspend the rulas. Seconded by Cemmissioner Holt and enttied by a uoumneos rotce vote. 2. BUSINESS. .A. The Recrea[ionalProgram Dirisian of [he Community Services Departmmtr recommends the City Commission hears presenmdon on the proposed Trails for the City a[ Longsvaod. Mc.Dmgo eaid the pnrposeofthis Work Sea wthe proposed trail system for Longwood and Swnioolc CotmtyV e jndY l'UY~ resident end menrbu of the Seminole County Trails and Greenways Committee, reviewed a snap depicting proposed trails in Longwood. She wed a proposed ro to for the trails starting at General Hutchison Parkway. She advised General f3ulchison Piukway, at me point, would be part of the Goss Seminole Trail tying into Big'IYce Park. She stated there were plans to place a hail head in the aren.'I'hey proposed the trail to run along Timacuan Road:. access a drainage to Grant S[[eel, Uten to Cendylend Park, end oxiting al Qedo Streea CThay eecommand taking Cmdo Stteet to Crmtge Avenue and 6om there to Ronald Rrngnn Boulevard. She said they suggest taking the trail oath on Ronald Rengan Boulevard tc Choralt Avenue, utilivug the crossing signals at Church Avmuo by the cloak tower. She said they CC 01-3I-05/I9 would recommend going north to Florida Avenue, avoiding Clmmh Avenuebecause ofthelack ofright-of--way. Florida Avenue borderlines city-owned property by the Police Department and she proposed utilizing lhie property to Churoh Avenue connecting thetrail to Reiter Park. She wed pictures of the various parks throughout the Historic Dissrict. She said they would ra evd co vingthe trait dowv Church Avenue w Ravgelme Road, du;no~o E.E. Williamson. This would ellov the trail to nect to tho Seminole Wekiva Trail. She explained the wunsy did have play ro build a pedest an bridge over [-0. There re plan widesr Lake Emma Road to four (4)lan with sidewalks along both sides of the road. Slre svggeste<I making ova (1) of sidewalks a bkepath. Tlris would allow the«ailsmcotmect fo the Ctoss Seminole Trail. She said, at this point, stefi would needmtevtew lheproPOSal to Uetennura if itt apmotioel route. Discussion was held. Mrs Putz said they proposrA Cringing thetruil ttnough the F~Iistoric Distdet so there would be accese to Ne perks and veiglrborhoods. lam McCOI lam P.E, Seminole Couvty Engineer, said the mxp they were wing was an old map. He advised theywoald be building a « eiI ovetrpass along P,.E. W illiemson. He further stated any sidewalk missing batwaetr Anngaline Road and EE. Williamson would be wmple[W over the next year aDd alralf. He advised there were bike laves ov Lake Emme Road. He said mare wereno Darren[ plans oftaking thetruil m Lako Emma Aoad of this time, bunt was a possibility in thelfrlure. Commissioner Anderson stated there waz n map that exists for the first phase. He said hopefully the areas vot included iv the first phasewoufd mako the second phase. He declared running a trail only along Longwood Hills Road would miss out on oovneoting ell oftlra schools and perks, thus obtaining something that was functional. He stated bringing the trail through the city provides Ear the opportunity to bring together ell oftha schools. He said connecting in this mavves~ would offer childron a safe s of transportation. He said this proposal did not require right-of-way acquis and was an opportunity to have en impact for the least amount ofm nayns Mr. McCollum said standards for width aan vary. He stated they would lke to have f urteon (1q) feet and do vot like to gobelow ten (lo) fbex for width of «ails. Discussiov was held regarding a rail in residential areas. Comvrissionor Anderson stated a residential srceut would have slower twffic. He suggested by abutting tD !ho sidawaW, the width could be obtained and il.vould have the Feel of an ovusized sidewalk Restated CC 0131-o5Y10 there were ways to plan around this. He suggested by landscaping it would make it feel morn homnly. Conn er Sackett ared he ould se esVeas n. He suggested going through Ne vhrac-rive pans of the city sad suggesed the plan could ba worked out. Drymty Mayor Maingot said the goal was to link into Oro existing county trail system. He asked b what extent the county's eupPOrt wvuld be for panieipeting with rho city developing a comtecting system. Mr. McCollu n said io Ore Maxis Plan developed foe the county in the late 1990'x, they were looking at s~arting anywhore in Seminole County, either e sidewalk as a trail. Fle said this plan would be the city's plan and the unty was ham to snppon avd encourage projectu He stated the county had a curzem Fond issue that was pazsed in 2001. He advised they did have a pmsGttvdoo ov by the airy at the Trails Advisory Committee. Flc advised they would be going to the board on Pebmary B'"t omplete the first bond issue. He stated this projrra came in late. bat they believed it meshing sta[Csupports. He said, if there were any funds vvaileblu atlers~hey complete items on the c nt list, they would look at this system and give it wnsideration ns a priority for penivipation. Coma ~ er Anders said Otis edimaOt projcet and Coc any yeas Longwaodw volved. Hesatad, whilo shareware obshtcles, they needed wbee e. He declared,a widen sofSen note County, the residents have all paid for rho bondsmoney to build the tmi4c He said shot while Otenounty was finding creative ways to fund the projects, it was imperative for dte city m 5nd ways to overcame the obstacles in planning. Deputy Mayor Maingot stared he endorsed the need w develop a trail system within Longwood. He asked the City Administrator if ste(Chav had an opportunity to review [he proposed plan. Mr Drago statM staff had not really had the opponwity to review this pmposel. He used Best WaRett Avenue es an exantPle, stating it was off er. He said taming on to East Warten from Myrtle, everything on the n'ght side of the oadw at the edge of the tight-of--way. He funkier atop the sidewvlk on rho IeR side of the road was a five Coat (5') sidewalk. He acid the disadvanregewould be, ifedding nn additional five feet (5'), this would encroach onto the driveways. Fde odvised Gedo was scheduled cabs paved Fiscal Year 20058006. Dosign for Credo would be in the 2005 March/April time5nme Mayor Bundy recognized Chninnan Huiloy of the Seminole County Commtsvon. CC 01-31-0581 Mr. Drago pointed out the section of roadway between Grant and Oak, staling dtis was being redesigned, and it was emcisl to deal with drainage to this area. He advised that each roadway was a custom design. Mayor Bundy said there weralwo (2) areas [o considu. FirsS they need to decide on fhe route. He said they needed to detenrune iiGYedo will be part of Cher to prio to paving He suggested gelling fieresidonts involved in the ereasuimplicated. Discussion was held regarding various options- Deputy Mayor Maingot said this would take some in-depth study and arch by slat[ Ha said, while this proposal seamsmbe logieal,he would tike to see staff explore whatother alleme[Ives were available Mr. Dago gave some various altamatives that could be explored. He said the unty wordd need to deal with the c sings et the railroad He said if they are building a new fire and polic<sla(ion, they would need to usepart of Florida Avenue for nn entrance and exit. Commissioner Seckatt said they needed to engage the area of Small World Park being connec[ed to the trail system. He stated he would have reservattovs eonceming coming down Ronald Reagan Boulevard hfr. McCollum said his staff was willing to work with city aloft. He advised the city did need to start planning. He said the possibility for funding through grants was always changing. Mayor 6undy reiterated staffwould need to conduc[ an assessment on all the areas proposed, and if it appears [o beprohibitive to suggest al(ema(ives. Discussion ensued. Commissioner Futduson declared it was important to eomoct the pazks and schools. Mayor Bundy suggested the hails could be developed in phases as funds became available. Mr. Drago stated the Commission needed to be cognitive ofihe need to be sensmveto the residents that lino ov the roadways being oonsidued. Discussion was held regarding venous al[entative routes. Counrv Cha'rrnan Hwlev said it has been interesting to henr the disc and slated he enders ands there is unanimity on the desire for a tail~}Ie stated titers were obviously some Issues to be worked out. He CC 01-31 ~OS/22 3. AU... .. 9~ m. CC UI-3I-OS/]J Tkis Pagc LeR Rlank Intentionally. cc of a l-osna