CCMtg10-11-04WSMinLONGWOOD CITY COMMISSION
Longwood City Commission Chambers
l75 West Warren Avenue
Longwood, Florida
WORK SESSION
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OCTOBER 11, 20(14
7:00 P.M,
Present: Mayor A.G."Butch"Bandy
Depaty Mayor Brian D. Snekett
Commissioner John C. Maingot
Commissioner Dan Anderson
Comvissioner Mike Holt
Richartl S. Taylor, Jr., City Attorney
John J. Drago, City Administrator
Linda E. GoR, Recording Secretary
Pat Miller, Director of Community 3erviees
Paul Siewoore, Community Services Coordinator
Tom Jackson, Chief of Police
Absent Sarah M. Mijens, Clry Gerk (Exevsed)
L CALL TO ORDER. Mayor BUndy callM the meeting to order at ]'.02 p.m.
Commissioner Maingot moved to suspend the enles. Seconded by
Commissioner Bolt vtd carried by a unanimous voice vote.
2. BUSINESS.
A. The Com city Uevelopment Division of [he Coormm~ity Services
Onpettment recommmnds the City Commlaeimt rnview antl discuss
proposed changes Yo the lnngwood Development Code.
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Mr. Size tared the node c aptly does of roluir a permit for fence
repairs under 20%. He said that Code Enforcemem has expressed a
rn that the replan nt fnoce of being inspeaetl. City
rtaff recommends eltucng the language to requi a permits for all knw
replacement or installation.
Discussion was held regarding fnee replacement and repairs_
Mayor Bundy stated he would not be opposed if this would be a fine
pertn,t allowing for nspea,ons.
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Diswssion was held regarding requiring permits far fence repays.
It was the wnsensus ofthe City Commission that Ne language not change
Sere on 5 3 6 (proposed section)
Mr. Miller advised this ton was addinga pro ~sion for regulating
temporary storage units5~
Mr. Sizemore gave examples of commercial businesses using temporary
orage unite. He sated this was a recommendation by Lieutenant
Yelvington. He said this would be a new section; Section 5.3.6 Portable
Temporary Storage Units. He said language would be inserted that
establishes a maximum size Por the units and setting a general rule that the
emporary storage unit would not remain on the property for more than
two weeks at a time, unless It is for wnstmctlvn aaivitivs. The language
will define residevtisl uses, and the location they may be placed- They
may be granted an extended stay with a temporary use permit.
Discussion was held regarding the length oftime to regulate.
Mr. Miller said tho rental ofthe units was based on thirty (30) days.
Discussion was held regarding regulatink the placement oftemporary
storage amts.
It was the wreensus ofthe City Commission to limit plaaement to thirty
(30)deys
Mayor Bundy suggested, if the use was while they were under
wnswctioq a permit be issued for temporary stomge at the same time.
Commissioner Mderson wggested limiting the numbs of times you can
obtain a permit for temporary storage.
Discussion ensued.
Mayor Bundy suggested using the same language as for temporary signs.
Stttlon 6 4 3 C
Mr. Sizemore explained this rewmmendation was an editorial change to
rend referencing the Historic DisM<t Code Book for sign regulations.
StaRrecotrwendetion is to emend the language b refer to the Historic
District Cade Book.
It was the consensus ofthe City Commission to amend the language.
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Sect on 644E
Mr. Sizemore stated there currently was no limit placed on the number of
flags allowed on a parcel, the siu of t7ags or flag pales. He said staff is
mending a limit of four (4) flags per parcel and limiting the flag size
to o e-third ofthe pole height.
Commissioner Maivgot pointed out that some businesses have
longitudinal (lags running [he length of the pole. He gave an example of
rent estate flags.
Mr-Miller said they would vend to define flag in this section
Commissioner Mderson suggested defning Flag versus a promo[iortal
device Ha diswssed the height of flag poles and said he would like to soe
fhe city provide for an opportunity to go higher than th'uty-five (35) f -
He referenoed [he fia6 at Sanford's Aiverwatk as an examplz
Discussion was held regarding proportionate size flags and height o£flag
poles.
I[ was Iha wnseusus ofthe City Commiseiov to allow thirty-five (35) feet
frr wmmeroial flag poles and twenty (20) feet for meidevtiel.
Commissioner Maingo[ stated there were certain religious practices where
they place a flag on a bamboo pale and it xays there wtil it naturally
diminishes.
Mr. Miller said they woultl bring forward language for review.
Section 6 4 5 (purposed settion)
Mr. Size stated staff recommends a requirement to remove signege
ce a bus Hess vacates a property and require the exposed structural and
electrical elements be wvered by plain white panels. He reviewed
suggested language.
Discussion ensued regarding the amount ofallotted time for this
requir men(.
Discussion was held regarding addresses on residences.
Discussion was held regarding ifie maintenance ofvacated commercial
parcels.
Mr. Drago said they tried to keep maintenance issues out of the Longwood
Development Gode.
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Mayor Bundy said the sign issue may need ro be included as pan of the
regular wde since it is a maintenance issue.
I[ was the consensus of [he City Commission to move forward with this
is ue, but look into which pan ofthe code h was best suited.
Senion 6.5.1
Mr. Miller slated there were curtently no standards for the removal of
billboards that have been damaged.
Mr. Sizemore stag smRrewmmended ifthe s[rucure was damaged
beyond 50% it becomes a noncmforming structure and would have to be
removed.
Mayor Bundy suggested statfcheck the county's language regarding
billboards.
Diswssion was held regarding the maximum number ofbillboards and
limiting that number as one wmes down.
Diswssion was held regarding replacing an improved billboard in the
same location.
Discussion was held regarding political advertisements on billboards.
Mr. Taylor stated he had been asked to give a legal interpretation recently
whey a political edvenisemem appeared on a billboard sign He staed if
the city were to make a regulation saying the political sigr~age applied to
billboards; it was his opinion this would lose in watt. He rewmmended
the clarification be included that the political sigvage does not apply m
billboard signs.
Mayor Bundy stated it also needed to be defned what constitutes a viable
candidate.
Discussion ensued regarding political signs
Discussion was held regarding material for fempomry signs.
Senion 6.6.3
Mr. Miller stated the LDC does not reFlect that pe~tnits are not required f r
real estate/development signs.
Mr. Bize said this was anothu edltonal wrteclion. He said they have
er requved a permit for these types of signs. He recommended
exempting these signs Bom permits.
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Discussion was held regarding restriaing the number of real estate signs
Diswesion was field regardvg direuional signs.
It was the consensus oftha Cily Com~vissiov to bring forward language
that would address the Commission's concerns.
Mr_ Miller stared MDR real estate eigns were allowed to ba too largz He
suggested restriuivg MDR real estate signs to sixteen (16) square Peet.
Discussion wns held regarding the size of real estate signs for Medium and
Low density.
Mr_ Miller stated Hoff thought drivy-two (32) square feG was too large
and they were looking for direction.
Mayor Bundy suggested treating Medium and Luw density the sameaz
four (4)squere fees
there was no objection.
Commissioner Holt asked when theron day notice cameffom in Seotion
6.8 2 A.
Mayor Bundy stated the Durpose was to give reasonable notice for
removal.
Discussion was held regarding removal of illegal signs.
Commissioner Holt pointed out that paragraph A references paragraph E
and there was no paragraph E.
Mr. Sizemore stated this would neod to be wReued.
Sect on 9 1 3 A
Mr. Miller stated this was an adminisuative wrrection. He said the
language has been ivtarpreted, but [hey would Tike m cleazly state
wvforming lots mun wme into compliance with all requirements of
the IAC-
Mr. Size rated the prov ov for conYDrming developma
o state if somathivg sits vacant Por 180 days, this allows rho opportunirys
Car the property [o be required to come into compliance with the
development code. StafCis recommending the language be modifed to
make this clear.
Discussion was field.
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Mr. Miller stated 9.1.3 A 2 did not establish standards for eliminating
conforming swctures if destroyed by a catastrophe.
Mr. Sizemore staled stafTwas recommending modifying the language to
distinguish the different elements ofa development that could be
conforming. lie stated ifthe exterior fnish of the building has been
destroyed by more than 50%, it should be replaced by a conforming finish.
Sect on 10 2 1 C
Mr. Simmore stated that building elevations were not included as part of
ite plan submittals. Staff would Tike to rewmmend inserting language so
this is required for site plan submittal.
Discussion was held regarding a conceptual plan.
Mr. Sizemore stated slaffwould like to rewmmend amending language to
ref to a new section for plat procedure. He suggened creating a section
10.5 0 for plats. He slated the procedure for Historic District variances
unclear. StatTwould tike to recommend that variances first go to the
H storic Preservation board for a rewmmendetion to the Commission.
Variances would then appear before the City Commission for final anion.
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Mr. Sizemore smted staff is rewmmending that the requvement for LPA
to see vawoons be removed since they are not land use decisions.
Sect o0 10 11 0 (proposed section)
Mr. Sizemore advised this proposed section was what he referred to earlier
for the planing process. Staffrecommends the creation ofa new platting
section under Anicle 10. He stated there curtently was no requirement for
ce agreements. Stall rewmmends insetting language requiring
subdivim ns to create wvenarns and restrinions to insure maintenance of
inftastructure.
Mr. Size stated [hue ently no regulation for lot splits. Staff
recommendsensening language hat establishes a Procedure for lot splits.
Mr. Szemore stated the last item was being brought forward for
disouesion. Should gated snbdiviaions be allowed in the clty7
Com er Meingot slated they already exist to city. He asked what the
reasoning was behind the question.
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Mr_ Dmso sam Inane was an anm mat zone hies m a gated wmmnnity
they are safer. He sated this was not necessarily tme and has never been
proven. Ooe oP[he issues was the ability for police and fire entering the
unity, and more recently, PHMA. 1~{o stated they also see themaelvee
aepamtely from the wmmunity. F•[e pointod out that Winter Park does no[
allow gated communities.
Deputy Mayor Sackut stated he was stunned at the number of people who
oss his property to avoid the gate in the community next to where he
lives.
Commissioner Maingnt slated the city may receive more revenue 6om
gated properties as they tend m be homes of higher value
Commissioner Anderson stated pare of association fees was sharing the
oug themselves Ne sorted they noeded to give access to
emergency Personnel.
Discussion was held regarding homeowner associations going bankrupt
that care for their own streets.
Commissioner Maingnt stated, as long as they wnform to the city
standards, there should be &ee enretprise_
Disc as held regarding direct access to arterial roads fiom the
gated scammunity.
Mr Miller stated they would look into arterial road access. He stated it
understood the Commission does not want to see access through
anmher Comm nity in order to access the gated worm nity.
It writhe consensus ofthe City Commission to allow gated communitles_
Commissioner Anderson brought up the issue of commercial unoccupied
property. He asked where was the threshold when you say they are not
looking for a new business to ocwpy the parcel. He said he would Tike to
explore what could be done without stepping on property rights.
Mayor Bundy stated there should not be allowances far partial demolition
on property.
Discussion was held.
Mr. Miller said they would pull togeaher information regarding the
and would m virtu the City Attorney to sea what
aould ba douesw thou( impinging on property rights.
Discussion ensued.
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