CCMtg07-07-03MinLONGWOOD CITY COMMISSION
Longwood Ciry Commission Chambers
l75 West Werrev Avrnve
Longwood, Florida
MINUTES
JULY 7, 2003
7:00 P. M.
Present: Mayor Dan Andervan
Deputy Mnyar Steve Miller
Com er Bureli linndy
Com er John C. Maingot
Com er Paul LOVes(rand
Richard S~'faylor, Jr., Ciry Attorney
John J. Dragq Ciry AAministrator
Sarah M. Mijares, City Clerk
Tom Smith, Divlslmi Manager of Streets/Elect
Jay Sargent. Division Manger of Planning
Chief Tam Jackson, Police Uepnrtmem
Moni<n Mitchell, Direcmr of Financial Services
Joho Brack Dlrectar of Commnoity Services
I. CALL TO ORDER. Mayor Anderson calledaregular meeting to order
at ] 06 Pm.
2. Amo~oemto[SILENT MEDITATION was FOLLOW ED RY THE
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
3. COMMUNEfY ANNOUNCEMENTS. The following announcement
was made.
A. A R/ue G~rzs.s Pickin' will be hell on July 19, 2003 from
6:00 p.m. until 10:00 p.m., Longwood Community Building,
200 Wes[ Warren Avenue.
1 RECOGNITIONS.
A. District pS Nomination of the Business Person of [he Month
Award for.loly 2003.
Com er Lovestmnd nominated Shabir Manji, partner
anagersof Fairmom plaza. 600 North Highway 1]-92. Carried by
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5. BOARD APPOINTM&N2S.
A. DiNriet tt2 Nomination to the Bonrd of Adjuatment
Mnyor Anderson deferred his nomination.
B. District N4 Nomination to the Parks and Recreation Advisory
Board.
Commissioner Bundy deferred his nomination.
6. PDBLIC INPUT.
A. Publir Participation. '
@pQtgw_N£I~Qn, 640 Landings Place, distributed information to the City
Commission and spoke in ray rds to the water dreinake problem within
The Landings. He eatd recently the retention pond fllled to a level [het
caused bank Flow of dtainagew to ko through then et drei and
to the properties within ]he Landings and Highlotnt Hi!]s. Hanasked that
the City of Longwood re wbolh thedrainage syste and the repaciry of
the retention pond and tovcorrett any problems to prevent future
ovuflowc
I'm Lockhart, 341 Tenon S[reet, stated that he agrees with what Mr.
Nelson had to say.
Tim 9c~aass 902 McClintock Street, spoke in regards ro the recent
flooding in High(mrct Ni]Ae_ He said when he had moved ineo Highland
Nils in 1981 the subdivision had both a front and rear retention pond. He
said in the Irate 198o's en engineer had visited the aubdivision and the front
on pond was removed and was replaced with a drain in the middle.
Heeseid the property wns reGeimed as e park end tho property sloped
wards the drain, which caused Flooding to the back part of the
o ighborhood. He said since the 6ont re[ention pond has been removed.
the back part of(he neighborhood hasflooded with minor rains. He said
both The /m~d(rgs end High/nnd Hil(r nwd a solution w tFis problem.
Mart v P.dwarda 344 Taney StreoS distributed soma pictures to the
Commission of his property and stated they have been Bonded a few
s. He said he is wncemed about the safety of his children and access
w his Property.
Kevin Lees, 329 Loch Lomond Avenue, distributed some pier and
questioned if so as getting paid to nthe rwentia~pond.
He said when the flood rag occurzed all ofthe garbake Floated against the
f c and hoc of bean picked up in three weeks- He asked that the
mmn(wance iesue be addressed.
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1ghP @i8t„lipe, 4'10 Village Place, stated when he had purchased his
property. the City of Longwood had a code that protected the property
s. He stated since then the ciry has strengthened the mode and
p operty values have ivereased He emphasized that the city has a
responsibility to maintain the Historic District so the property values do
not deteriorate.
loan Ridilla, 218 West Church Avenue, stated she is addressing the issue
oPwamhouse distriburing that is being don other rof Mllwe
Sweet end C,hurclr Avenue She aeked the Clty Commission to adhere to
the city code and vot allow this type of activity to goon within the
District. She handed a peti r v to [he City Commissionwith signatures oP
people who share her view~o
loan Mant , 216 & 242 West Warren Avenue, stated she eoncurted with
the last two speakers.
$ovdra Lomax, 1441 Perrot Way, spoke in regards to the Hiatonc District
Codes and stated the Historic Preservation Board has worked very M1ard
with the Planning Department to wma up with nodes Por the Historic
Uist c She said every other Monday night, she observes the modes being
slaughtered, taken away, and ignored. She encouraged the Commission
to carefully review this issue
P4ngg$yLtIY, ~2I EaSle Avenue, spoke in regards m the Historic District
Code4 She said at the last Work Session the Commission was inttteste4
n slim Ling any fine or penalties for demolition ofa wntributing
and changingsrhe allowable uses that would allow wholesale
distribution within the Historic Dietriu. She stated the oprrent and
proposed codes prohibit these activities wirhin the Disvim because they
ited far the s unding uses. She said to change the codes
modate l'or one si~ation. will open the possibilities of others t
engaging in miler and will destroy the park like atmoaphue
within the District. Sherewmmended the Commission reeonsidutheir
position.
Nadine Tolos, l l6 Heather Avenue. said both the corporated and
corporxted ar s ofLongwood have bee experi sing m tary
power oumges thet~are causing people to reset their electronics and also
damaging their elec is equipme t. She said her hom ce
of going w epPrec nothuclaim end stated she ~ ongoing romn
crept [he theory that squirzels antl othu animals are ueazivg these power
uteges. She said the power outages are now the norm and requested that
something be done.
Susan Brokowskv, 409 W finding Oak Lane, stated currently the city has
the worst garbage company- Shesaid at the Work Session Florida
Recycling stated they were making improvemems and on Tuesday
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sing she found her garbage cans in the middle of her yard. She then
endorsed Waste Pm and wanted to ask Waste Yro a ooople of questions.
Glenn liobere, 539'fiberon Cove Road, stated that he moved 6om
Jacksonville to Longwood about two years ago- tieseid Advanced
Disposal serviced Jacksonville and provided them with a high level of
e He stated he would like to see Advanced Disposal earzy out that
samectradition in the City ofLOngwood.
]. CITY Al1MINISTRATOR'S RF',PORT. No report.
A. MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS'REPORT.
District kI. Commissionw Maingot said on Sunday, lone 22i°_ the
on pond at Tartan in Highland Hills compleely flooded. with over
wo ket otwater in the roadway. He said there were sand bags Dlacul at
the home adjacent w the retention pond, end the water did not get into
home. He stated he spoketo tho resides in the area anA also to Tom
Smith- He then oongratulated'tutu Smith and the members ofthe Public
Works Department for doing a good job on such short notice.
Com er Maingot said [he Phillip si sadjacent to the Longwood
Canal had water in their garage and their yard area was completely
Flooded. lie said it was not flooded by the canal but by water from the
swel I that Flows along the side of Tullis Avume end (lowing directly into
their propetty- He said when thetima comev to do work in [hat area that
mia situation wiu be corzeaea-
Commissioner Maingot said at Lake Waymen [he water level had raised
nsiderably due to the recent heavy rains. He uid the measure at the
d icharge at Bem nolew enty-two inches rthe concrete bar.
He recommended when Somi~volte its being paved and the drainage system
is heing improved that the discharge area is enlarged w handle the
eased volume of inflow and that will reduce the retention pressure
on Lake Waymen.
Commissioner Maingot said Tom Smith cheGed oul the drainage ditch
located behind the Bentley Property and smted the area is a real disaster.
He said the pipe was blocked by debris that was reposedly dumped by the
residents backing onto [he ditoh Hesaid the homes located on I I S and
117 Hoffa Wxy received extensive water damage. He recommended the
residents along the ditch receive some form ofcommunieation making
them awetethat it is illegal to dump trash into the ditch.
Com er Maingot said the drainage ditch located on Church Avenue
at Country Club Pw WorIU was filled with debris and Mewooden bridge
located over the ditch needs to have its foundation checked because there
ring He then requested that the Commission receive
a preventative ma ntenance sphedule through the Gty Administrator, so
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the Com ethers aregime ofongoing prev -
e, He said [his' cceptable s avd something
mus[ibe done about it. Hethen read excerpts Y}omtthe minutes of]u1y 20.
1998 and 1999 in regards to High/ned Hills. He said a atomrwater fhnd is
wllected from thec end asked that this nay be putto use and
mvast m thewell being of the people end their futu~e~
District#2. Mayor Andeson said the city recently received two big rein
mrs beck to back, which caused State Road 434 and County RoaU All
to Flood. He said [he Public Works Department was tryivg to get debris
while the Police Depart strying to keep drivers from the
deepest pan oPthe wetor_ }le setd he was extremely conwrned until he
had spoken with Mr Brock and Mr. 6rock slated the city received eight
inches of ra within a three hour period- He said this is not a normal
probluntl~etn~he city is dealing with', and the systems Nne cried ae
designed because the water levels have bone down prenY quickly. He
looked at the pim es hom the [aeMntgx end they show there is a
aamevdws builduup ofweter end this should be looked at
Mayor Anderson congratulated the Police Department for apprehending
the person responsible for the nagedy in the city recently had
Mayor Anderson congratulated the Public Works Department far
responding quickly and providing back-up generators when they were
experiencing power outages over [he holiday weekend.
District Yt3. DePUty Mayor Millis stated [hat some oPthe drainage
problems have been cured and some have not. He said the problem in
HlghlnM Hills has existed since 1991 or 1992 and stated this problem has
er bee Improved, nor has there been athorough solution to the
problem. n
Deputy Mayor Miller moved to have two meetings from
w, the City Administrator bring forward to the City
Commission for their review end dieassiov some proper
solutions to the proheem of Flooding in High/m Id Hihs
subdivision and'f'he Highlmlds. SewndeA by
Com Issloner Maingot aM carried by x unanimous voice
District N9. Commissioner Bandy congratulated the Police Department
for solving the murder at the convenience store. He said in disassions
with the Chief the Community Police Officer had inspected the video
ra less than two weeks prio oche crime. which helped in the
apprehension of the person responsibleE the crime.
Commissionu Bundy said at the last Commission meeting, the City
Adminlstator presented the personnel and capital expenditures over
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$IO,o00. Fie said Deputy Mayor Miller questioned the addition of only
ne police officer and said he had questioned ihis isvua also. He sold vince
then he has ned a meeting wim ma Chief and teamed that the Chief does
need additional peisonneL
Commissioner Bundy moved m have the Chief bring
forvvard at the next Cummiesion mewing xnd Present his
an power needs. Seconded by Deputy Mayor Miller and
renied by a unanimous voice vote.
District NS. Commissioner Lovesfmnd said Devonshire is well drained by
Highland Lake North and with the recent rains if has reached a new height.
He noted these sins do not happen every year, but once every 20 years.
9. CONSENT AGENDA.
A. Approve Minutes of Jnne 9, 2003 WOrk Session and Jone ih,
2003 Regular Meeting.
6. Fioa ce Division of the Financial Servires Department
ends payment of apnraveA and eslimamd bills far July
znd3~m
c. 'rue uaraea Di.irmn nr me rnmm Work: Dennrmfem
onaa me city carom n apnrove me many oaaentem
and agree with JeR Ansbacn. and nntharixe the Mayor to
sigh the otiliry easement and agr¢emud.
Commissioner Bundy moved w approve the Consent
Agenda as submitted. Sewnded by Denufy Mayor Miller
and carried by a unanimous voice vote.
io. PDDLFC HEARINGS. None.
il. REGULAR DUSFNESS.
A. City Administrator requests the City Commission review the
proposed Subdivision Renntifcation Assessment I'rngram and
give stag the diratiao it deuvs appropriate.
Mr. Dingo introduced the board item and surfed at the lazt meet ing
the Commission asked that this item he tableA in order for them to
svnay mehem mrtner. He raid mat foogwood Grov~ia iinereated
wing wall and a regulaz wail along their property on Church
Avenue, on wltioh he said he enoiosed some dncumunation. He
said the board item is for the Commission fo consider setting a
beeuf ifioa on dirt-a for both them end fhu Capital
coats COr improving subdivisions. This program paves the way fo
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er both the maintenance most and capital costs for those sea
projects.
Deputy Mayor Miller moved ro aaept the City
Admi endati stablishing
Subdivision Beautification Assessment program as
outlined in the document. Seconded by Mayor Anderson.
Com er Lov and said when the COm mlks abou
wallamhesstated this mould beetremendons expens which could
take years to pay off lie said the Commission sho ild not allow
people to go into debt over a cenein period and suggested fittuan
years be the maximum to pay off the debt. He also suggested that
Me comfort level should be ohangod fiom 51 % to 60%.
eemmirrmner Woody raid ne agreed wan eommirrro„er
Loveatrand on [hecomfart level being changed m 60% and
suggested that the comfort level beset at an even higher number.
Con er Maingot said he also agreed with the 60%
mendation He said the oapitel oomponut can be handled
with the non-ad valorem assessment. He said he did not agreewith
the maintenance component and said the maintenance should be a
line item that shwld be added to the monthly water bill He said if
the oity gets pother Ciry Administrator who may not he
wrned w t landscaping. what a the hop rs going to do
ifthey have prepaid and sees level of m ether
ently below standard. He added satying when a homeowner
pays for this service they should have a right to question the input
ar level of maintenance witnout a specified program being iu
place. tie said if it does not meet the standard, then ,vomwhing
should be included where they weld terminate [he agreement He
said he would cenainly not go along wish the maintenance
orporated with the oapitel component and said these should be
addressed as two different areas.
Commissioner Bundy noted that come pwple skip out on the water
bills and the cost of delinquent awounts'is spread to all those who
do pay their water bills. lie noted on the egaude item tear the City
Administrator hasestablished snot-tocxwed amount Pot
beautification maimenanaa He slated he did not want another line
m added to the water bill and said if they do not pay it. then it is
added to the progeny.
Mayor Anderson said the City Administrator has addressed the
n ofparticipati and read a brief se ce from the board
r~rHe then explained that the representatives from the FIOA
would be involved in the initial design ofthe capital phase and
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each year they would be involved in the process of deciding what
planting should be planted. Fle said his onty concern is that the
city needs to define a mt-to-exceed amount, and acost-per-frot
needs [o be established so both the people and the Commission
have a comfort level. He said he was in full favor of the 60°u and
noted that he did not agree with the propesry owners having to
deed the properly to the city.
Comm ar Maingot read an verpt DOm the agendai avd
said [hosrequir is Por the m oe port will vary fiom
e. He noted them will bee s [hat will
take e lottof m rial avd ther will bee es [hatewill take next
nothing. He staid there will be quite a range wiM the cost-pu-
square-foot, and noted that there should be a little more wntrol on
the beautification maintenance wmponent.
Mayor Anderson said since it rakes b0% to begin this prgecL he
suggested there be some form of exit plan for the mainenance
wmponen[ of the conttap~
Mr. Drego said by this item being placed on the taz bills, tl,e city is
always collecting taxes in the rear Hesaid if yon add walls to the
program, then the Commission cannot allow for an out option
bee se the wall beloogs[o thecity. and maimeutence is attached to
thewall unless there is an azsmance that the HOA is going to take
fVll responsibility for everything. He said every year the
omponent must be enacted by either an Ordinance or
Resolutioncesreblishivg an assessmuu.
Deputy Mayor Miller moved to amend the document to
read instead of 51 % to 60%. Seconded by Commissionu
Bundy.
Disc suedtegaNing property owners giving permission to
the airy tovuse their propenY for the beautification project Cor their
subdivision.
The amendment was carried by a unanimous voice vote.
The main motion was carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
B. The Engineering Division of the COmmnnity Services
Department rvsommentls that the C'ty Commission discuss
readapting Chapter 24, Stormwater Management, of the
Longwood City Cade
Mr_Drago introduced the board its and explained the Stormwater
Management Program will expire on October 1, 2003. He said he
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brought this mforward to elf the Comm vtad to
to the program and if they did, a proper Ordii ante would be
brought forward to wvtinue this program
Deputy Mayvr Miller moved to continue and readopt the
gtormwetur Management Program Seconded by
Commissioner Maingot_
Com er Lov mnd said ten yea s ago the Storm er Fund
toted ana s~ia me cemmiaaro~ wa: role at a,at amt me
ounry was going to pass a stormwater Fnnd end the tLnd would
apply to the whole county including the cities. }le said to this day,
the o unty doe of hav a Storm ar }Lnd_ He noted the city
was going to receive $150,000 the first year beoauee the uty did
calculetethee offal propm when they in toted this
p~ogram_ He saidostafTshoweaafive year plan that would solve
all the problems and this wesetemporery tax. He suggested the
ciry take care of the projects with thegenerel fund or the road fvvd
end noted that he as going to vote against this board item
Comm er Maingot said this' n that is goin5 to wst
re thatithe $300,000 and said one of the soWtions that was
endedw ethe capacity ofthe pumps at
HighlmM Hills. Hesaid when nsidering this r, the
Commission should put themselves in the situations in which the
people have to live Ha added saying the City Administrator has
been direvted by the Cnmmissioq two meetings from now. to
sup withapos ve plan to show how they are goinyw
solve the problemso Fle said there s no sense coming up with a
plan unless the city has the funds t
Com er Lov rand said he i in favor of the Flood projects
but they should be paid out ofthe fcifities fund or the gaveral
fund. He said that govuvment Has been cutting in every ciry but
Longwood w to grow in both to and in e. He .said he
in favor fornsolving the Hood probiwn and said the city could
cutback here and thereto make the $3005000.
Com er 5undy noted that there are not e lot of dirt streets
that need tonbe paved and said the pity is staying on the spiral
plan- He voted some of the problems were caused about 20 to 25
years ago when development was not required to retain stormwater
and woo not required to address the iswe of stormwater_
He said when it flooded the airy was left to solve the problem avd
ow beginning to solve the problem. He said in order to do this,
them neym me fom the and said this aspecitic
dedicated fund that addreaees spcecifc problems avd the residents
aan see where their money is going.
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Moti rried by a fou roll call vote wish
cemm~aamner cevnaba~a o~ ng nay.
G City Administrator recommends [he City Con:missian Aiscoss
adjusting the current fee schedule for medical trnnspurt
esoh of Mddicare/Medicaid legislative ehangus
relit hag loafres fort nsparl servitts.
Mr. Drago invoduced the board item and explained that
Medicare/Medicaid is changing the way they Day transport services
lbr the pcnple that aze on their program relative to emergency
medical tia said all the other oities end county are going to the
w syste and said this would gain additional revenue of$44,000
from this new billing.
Deputy Mayor Mllm oved fora to have the
City Administrator bring forth an Ord nansce to edjua the
ent fee schedule. Seconded by Commission Maingol
and carried by a unanimous voice vme.
D. The Finance Division of the Financial Services Depart
mm:ds Clty Commission read by title only, set Jaly 21,
2003 as a public hearing tlate and approve the first reading of
Ordinance 03-tbfi3 which amends the Fiscal Year 02/03
Budget.
Mr. Taylor read Ordinance No. 03-1663 by title only.
Mr. Drago introduced the board item and said this Ordinance was
mend the budge) relative to the 8500 needed to pm on the
family/teen evant in the park
Deputy Mayor Miller moved to pass Ordinance No. 03-
1663 on first reading and set a Public Hearing date on July
2I. 2003. Secondd by Commissioner Meingo~and carried
by a unanimous roll call vote.
E. City Clerk re ends the City Commissim: adopt Resolution
No. 03-10]6, adopting an In[erlocal Agreement with the
Sem note County to provide the trauNer of adnrinistrntlve
tteponaibilities relndve to collection and enfutteo:ent of
Smninole County ottupational license taxes.
Mr. Taylor read Resolution No. 03-10]6 by title only.
Mr. Drago introduced the board item and said :he County has
simplified theirf swetpre for their occupational licenses. He
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said in order to ben etheir s. the County is willinS
en Interlocal Agreemmnt ~o have the cities issue Ilse
unty oceupati nal lice e. He said the c o the city would be
Sl50 to upgrade oompnter equipme and the city would collect
about $(,000 a year on the Interlocal Agreement-
Commissioner MainSOt moved to adopt Resolution No. 0;~
10]6 as presented. Seconded by Deputy Mayor Miller.
Com er Maingot ated there are an additiona1600
bus sthat eoperating without an occupati nal licwtso and
noted Ilse airy would collect more I Ilan the $6,000_
Cam er Lovesvand said the residents of LonKwood are
being drntble taxed by hiving both z city and coonty occupational
license He said every[ime the city woeks with the wunty. the city
loo s He said if you live in the city you are penalized and
suggested working with the county to eliminate a county
o cupetional license if you have e uty occupational license-
Mayor Anduson said this was brought op at the Mayor and
Managers meeting end said he really apPrecialed Ihei ~
and said the County is not ready to do this project both ways.nn
Fie said the County simplifYed their whale stnicnne and took a
bus ss Friendly approach. He s aced a perw an get both the
unty and city occupational lice espol anU this provides
funding for the city and it really does not take any time et all.
Commissioner Hundy reaffirmed the city does collect and keep all
delinquemf and penalties. He noted there may beapote tial
that the city would wllect more than the amicipated amoum^ He
stated he was in agreement with both Commissioner MzlnKOl and
Commissioner Lovestrand.
Com cr Lov and suggested the city should consider
emping the o ettpalional licenses in order to conform to the
same categories as the county's to implify things.
Mr. Taylor said in -Oats/iry Ciricc Magnenta. "there is an article
about taxation that [ells how some cities are loosing out by not
amping their ecupati nal lice ving tees. Hesaid he does not
desagree with Commissioner Lovestrand about the double taxation
ue, but stated that the issue hae been challenged and was los.
He said the issue had been challenged in noun, but was upheld by
Motion cartied by a unanimous roll call vote
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P. City AAm niatrator recommends the City Commission review
the millage rates and Total Property Tax Revenue relative to
fhe es4 noted taxable value and set a millage rate the
Commrsvon deems appropriate.
Mr_ Drago i trodnud the board itmn avd said recently the city
ived thenDR 420 form from the Property Appraiser. kle said he
asked the Tina rR DePart to give the Com aslidicg
scale of mil loge r es. beginn ng with the roll up going past the
e He said es the Commission has done io the pest, they
have discussed and se mileage r so the city can m the
form backto the Property Appraiser for advertising purposes. He
slated [lie evrrent rate is 4 61 and anything below 4.6] is lost
o the city,o nthough Com er LOVe and would
take the position the[ it Is a tax inceea e'sHe said anything above
4 G7 is an increase in revenueto the city..
Commissioner Lovestrand said he diFlereA with the City
Administrator and said he is not adversewith holding the seine
millage rate as last year.
Commissiovu Lovestrand moved to keep the millage mte
at 4.6'l. Seconded by Commissioner Rundy and carried by
a urienimous roll call vote.
The City Commission recessed Rom 844 p.m. to 8'.58 p.m.
O. The Planning Division of the Commonity Services Department
mends that the Clty Commission review and Uiexoss the
Tnble of Allowable U.sea for the Downtown Historic Overlay
DisMCt sa as to identify an `4xpansion of; "'restrietlon oP' or
modiDration to" fhe eorrwtt allowable uses.
Mr. Drago Hated the item was brought Corwnrd Rom the love 23i°
Work Session and said there was some wncern abom reviewing all
the uses in the Historic District and whether or not the Commission
sted in leaving the u s they are or modifying then
Hasseid on Pege 11-5, [he allowable uses are broken dawn by land
and he believes the Commission should take a look et the
downtown. Mr. Drago suggested for the Commission to review
each land us and to dtte eiftheyw ntthat land use in rite
Historic Distriu. Hesaid staff will oreatea sepataze wlomn xud
Iebal the ulumn the Historic District.
Deputy Mayor Miller said that is a great suggestion and stated that
is going to take a lot oftime.
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Deputy Mayor Hiller moved [o tablethe item until the nen
meeting. Seconded by Commissinnw Lovesuend.
Mayor Anderson said [ho reason this item has come before the
Comm is beta etlie city has nihm on-going-
TheCommisinvhasbeantryingto solvetihe si[uation. Hesaid
the Comm on has been putting thiseoffand stated hei
adverse to'doling that, if the Commission handles it the right way
once and for all_
Mr Sxrgen said staff has me period of six onthst work on
this issue and noted staff has plenty oftime to do this cortectly.
Deputy Mayor Miller stated that he would like an accurate detailed
report of exactly what this gentlem 's bus is doin end when
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he ie doing i~ He said some people ere calling the business
warehousing, trucking, and others are calling it this end that. He
said until the Commission really knows what is going on. how is
the Commission going to be able to handle it
Commissioner Meingot asked what the vehicular weight restriction
fix [he downtown area is.
Com er Bundy said the pity as of prohibit local deliveries
end stated this was beaog used es a wlnolesele facility.
Mr_ Sargavt said the business ownerin question is in the audience
and[hey do have en occupational license. He said the business
explain what was approved on the occupational license
and axplatin exactly what M1is opwxtion is.
Mayor Anderson said iha Commission needs to discuss whet is
allowable and whit can be xllowed. He said the COmmision
needs to make a decision as to what kinds of business will be
xllowed end said the business owners want a deusion to be made-
He said it is easy Por the Commission to say, but the owner wevt
ro know ifthey will beable to do business here or ifihey need to
and this is why the Commission needs to give them an
Com er Meingot said whale er dec nthe Comm
makes re going to have ro live with that decision. He se'id if
other people move into the Historic District and buy out additional
propeiaies and they decide they want to go into the same type of
business then the vity cannot deny their application.
Mayor Anderson stared the Commission needs to be very carelLl
becauve the Commission is trying to oreata x business fiiendly
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mospnere and me Commission .a trying m enwnrage people to
make investments and to move here and conduc[ their businesses
here.
Mr. Drago said the Com cads to addres ach one ofthe
and smfiwill check of£if [he Com sthar land use
or no[and the land uses need to be in the Hi oo cCode BOOk.
Mr. Sargen saiA so a of the u s that n the Downtown area
eed to apply to the Historic District because they are according m
State Statutes.
Discussion ensued regarding whet is a wholesale facility.
Motion carried by a four to one voice vote with
Commissioner Rundy voting nay.
fl. The Planning Division of the Community Scrvi<as Depar1menf
ends Ihet the Ciry Commission review and approve the
requesrt from Mint Baptist Churcb of t.angwuod to allow the
placement of a modular school building on their site al 891 E.
State Road 034 for a period of mre (I) year, with the possibility
of sip to forty (A)or e-(1)yea s, for the Choices In
Learning Private School currently located at the Firfl Baptist
Church of Altamonte Springs on North Street.
Mr. Drago i roduced the board ire and stated this
regarding establishment and location. Ida said the Commasaion e
with the people fiom born the school and the church. Hesaid
rz thao, the school would preflr w move their facilities to this
particular church location and this would give the school an
opportunity to f nd a permanent facility. He said [he school is
asking for a oncyear use of the modular building at this facility
with the possibility ofgoing up to four years xt one-year
s. He said they are eking the Commission for approval
sotthey wn locate the building and prepare themselves for the new
school year.
Deputy Mayor Miller moved to approve placement of the
modular building at 891 E. Smm Road 434. 8ewnded by
Commissioner Maingot and carried by x unanimous roll
call vote.
L The Public Works Department recommends that the Ciry
Commission accept the Rangeline Woods subdivision into the
City's inlenana progra including Nestrws. sewer lines,
water 1 not' and the pflymenl tar [he street ligbls, all having
neen aesignea antl inswlled to city or[ungwoo0 spe<ifi<mions.
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Mr. Drago i rotluced the board ire and slated this pan molar
subd'rvi ns located ne rthe city's water plant. He said the
develope~has finally given the city all the required dowmutx
relative to the subdivision forthe aty to maintain and staff is
mending approval of the subdivision into the maintenance
program.
Commissioner Maingot Hated he would go along with approving
this board item ae long as she City Adminisaawr has seen a copy
of their HOA doc which spaifies the mention ponds and
the associated sttueturnes are to be maintained by the HOA.
Mr. Drago responded saying the two new subdivisions that are on
the Brewing boerdw mobs ga~edw so the city is
going to require the HOA give the city an a allysen engineer's
report stating all the faoilities are fvnotioni~ng propuly_ He said he
issed this HOA and he cannot go beak and requir t. He Hated
the dot is have already been filed with that rt. but the
homeowners are responsible Corall of the drainage within [hat
f'aoiliry including the retention pond.
Commissioner Maingot moved to approve 11 1 as
submitted. Sewnded by Dequty Mayor Miller.
Commissioner Lovestrand inquired if the streets had been deeded
to the city.
Mr. Urago responded saying the streets had been deeded to the city
at tlra time oftha plat. Heseid the fdOA has been paying for the
set lights simply beoause the airy did no[ approve w take over
the main[enance. He said the HOA wants the citywteke over the
ra becausethen the HOA dou not have to pay forthe
expene and until the city does this the HOA is responsible for
those expenses.
Moron was approved by a unanimous roll call vote.
J. City Administrator recommeuda [he City Commission review
and approve the proposed fee schedule [or the Longwood
Community Building.
Mr_ Drago introduced the board imn end stated he'is presenting
this revised fee schedule for the Community Building basically to
e cleavin6 casts and adding remel fees for the upstairs
vs He ssaid before people were able to pay one rental fu and
oe the whole building He said the two biggest expen o[he
Community Building are cleaning and power and he wanted to
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make sure those vests were recovered through the Fee schedule- He
said another problem the oily is having is people are getting their
relativee or people they know that live in the uty to rent the
building ov their behalf and this is why we ere asking for proofof
residency.
Comm~ss~oner Maingot expressed that ha would suPDOrt this item
and inquired what as happening with getting the programsstarted
for senior oitizens a the Community Building
Mr. Drago respond tl saying Mrs. Walsh has just resumed from
ernlty leave and tendered her resignatio2 He said this will put
that particular program behivd until he finds areplacement- He
oted ha did se etlte eof an mfnr the depart ant, but
unfortu ately heuhas of gotten upnto speed relative to developing
the pmgams. He added seyivg one of thei 's charges
talk to theothu cities and to do a thorough survey oPthe senior o
groups in the city because he does not want the intern tv presem a
program to the city that he does not think will be successlLl.
Deputy Mayor Miller moved to take the City
Administrator's rewmmendation and approve the proposed
fee schedule for Longwood Community Building.
Seconded by Commissioner Bundy.
Mayor Anders expressed he i omfonable re<luiring off-duty
police oFlicer(e) to be at a wedding reception and said he would be
in favor ofstriking that requirement. He said he would have no
problem reauirivg insurance or a permit, but iPthere was an issue,
our police aRcers are right around the corner.
Corn er Maingot rtated he would disagree with the Mayor.
{{e saidsehere era a lot of functions where alcohol is consumed and
quo aned if the city was going to ntil someone injures
themselve oily property before the city realizesthey
need to have anuoRlcer. He said the mere fad that the polity are
there is a dotvtrent-
Mr. Drago said the officer helps in irefic control since parking is
premium around here. He noted when you have a gathering of
people with dive se personaliti s there ra clashes of
personalities andrthe o~cera aro [hero to make sure everyone
abides by the roles
Cam er Bundy said in tasponse[o Mr Drago'e commems
earlier, the City Admi or did no end adding a
pos on for to hantdle the rental of the Community
6uildivg. Ha~aid ha would prefer utilizing someone withthe
abiliti and educ not Mrs. Walsh asa Recr on COOrdinawr
and they would be able to spend their dine developing,
supervising, and setting up progams for recreation and not reining
the Community Building
Motion carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
K. Clty AAminie(rator recommeotls the City Commission review
and diser,ss a proposed Settlement Agreement end Electric
Franchise Ordinance and take action the Commission deems
nppropriatc.
Mr. Drago saiA the Commission was given a copy ofthe revised
document from PE and said the leer time Mr_ Raley waz hate the
Commission reviewed eight items in derail. He saiU Mr. Raley
said he would come back with a revised documem after talking to
his rtaR'relative to some items and completed that- He said the
documents are presented both in drag Ordinance and Settlement
Agreernevr end Mr. Taylor gave the Commission a memo per his
w of the document- He said Mr_ Relay end his sreffere hore to
address any o(the eight items-
Mr. Taylor said he gave the Commission a memo right before the
holiday and apologized if any ofthe Commissioners did not yet the
r. He aaid hewanted to ko through the Setlement
A_ercement and Ordinance to make aurethere were not any other
changes that noeded to be addressod_ Ne said as smted in my
mo_ PE has made some Favorable changes in both the
Settlamem Agreement and Franchise Agreement. Mr. Taylor then
awed his reoommendetions as outlined in hie memo dated July
]e 2003.
Mr. Bill Raley said PG has o the table with an agreement
that meets both PE's and the Commission's needs. He said the
proposal is fair and PE woulA aek the Commission to move
forward. He stated in regards ro the fees, that is something PE
would be willing to put in the settlement and said regarding the
collection ofthose feu. PE is willing to work with the city. He
said if PE does that ovu e protramed period of time, the impact is
mal to that s. He Hated this makos it look like PF has
of that Itanchise time wee in place for 30 years whh the
f9es%He aid in rogerdsro the Favored Natlone, he thinks there tea
misunderstanding.
Ms. Gail Simpson spoke regarding the Favored Nations prov
and stated what PE did w to give the airy (hvored ne nrthe
and purefiese, ao PEawuld ofl'er a shorter Ranchiseterrn with
a purchase option and eaid that mmission has the option to
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mend the agreement. She said what PE did was to iry to give the
city favored nations on the long-term purchase.
Mr. Haley said in the provision on the work in tho right-oC-ways,
PF, has tied to do the work according to the ANSI standard.
He said PE will be working with the city es they do the work end
will make sure They follow the standard. He said if PF, was not
t'ollowing the standard, then the city has the ability to slop their
ork Hesaid here ting that PE will continue to do the
work by that ANSI s andardfa
Commissioner l,ovestrand inquired if the city now has the ability
to slop PE's work when they are tramming trees around the lines.
Mr. Drago said the city does have the ability to stop PE's work, but
es the city does not know PE is out doing it. He added
dying n of PE, but s. He said the city ca call either
Ms. Simpson or Ms. O'Keefett~ofEce to stop the mntraaor.
Mr. Raley said PE will to provide n work plan and note where they
will be tramming. He said PE COUId work wish the City
Administrawr and let him know what work PE will be doing and
he can validate thework
Con ar IIundy suggested ifthe city could include [he
word rag tlhat if the work is Pound to be dafcient of rite ANSI
andards, then PE would make whatever necessary corrections to
bring it compliane He said if it'sthe subco sthat
being used by PE to de the «ee trimming and thaynbutchered a tree,
then PE would have to plant e « ee to replace it.
Mr. Raley responded saying PE mould work wish language staling
if PE was found not [o be «imming according to these ANSI
andards, then PE, would work with the city to wme up with a
resolution.
Com er Maingot said in the ANSI A 300 there eviden e
of how,to,do thejob properly, and ifa sub-contractor had his c
people properly trainer and supervised, then there should he no
to butcher things up. 41e stated tltera was one point in the
agraeement that made it impossible for him to agree with Hesaid
s rite intention PL wanting to re-charge the franchise Ceee that
collected by PE from both the residential and commercial
people of Longwood
Mr. Raley responded saying that is not a re-charge and stated the
er been charged n Cea ated with that e
periodeHe said this is merely holding theacity responsible for m
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allowing PE to be in those right-ofwayc during those periods. He
said it es ifthe Itanchise fee had been in effeot all the time.
Commissionu Maingot said he disagreed with Mr_ Raley and
explained his position.
Com er Lovesvand said a franchise fee is apass-through
ex tlnntsistalweys paid by the people and not the power company.
He said the fiatKhise f is set by the Commission and the
Com on has the power to Porgive the fee, but tl~e power
compeny'does not. Ha stated hewould be in thvor of forgiving the
tee, instead ofgoing beck and having to charge the people- Ile
said it would be difficult to determine how to wllea the fee
Mayor Anderson said Me franchise Cee is nothing more than a tea
that the city volleas and the fee is pollected es pan of doing
business in the rightbf-way. He said the problem that he had was
the fee was used as a bargaining chip in ordu to get the oily to sign
with clau and pro s that they did not agree
and if the w t signed,~hen PE was going w stop o
collecting thettax and tI eoi would be taking a signilicent pan oCthe
city budget away- He s eted this s always an issue Cor him end
stated it was also an issue with thejudge at the kilth District Court.
cemmiaaioner wveatmnd nered amce me Commission naa
disagreements among themselvex the Commission decided to let
thec rts dacida on that e. Hesaid iPPE wins in noun. PL
will s ill have to go to the Public Service Commission.
Mayor Anderson expressed his concern with entering inm a
franchise agreement for another 30 years and commenting on the
reliability and semce that PE provides.
Ms. Simpson stated regarding the franchise fee it was PE's goal to
provide the best option end the best otTU to the airy- She mid as e
ategry, it was intended f r the city to keep those mvenucc and the
ut~zens would benefit from those revenues.
Commissionu Bundy moved to extend the meeting for l0
es. Sewnded by Commissioner Maingot and carried
by a unammons voice vote.
Mayor Anderson stated what the issues wue with stranded costs
and esplained how this would attest the city in the long-term
M.c Simpso rated that PE raaine ell the risks and makes the
capital investments. She said PE is not asking the city not to care
about reliability. but as evy customer, the city has the right to go to
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the Public Service Commission and PE would have to respond.
She added saying the Ranchise is a vovcxclusive agreement-
depending on what would haDDen and de-regulatioq and noted it is
not lacking the city into nnything.
Mr_ Raley said PE would be willing to offer theciry the same off
as lake Mary, which is the 10 yenrf30 year convertible
Discussion ensued regarding the 10/30 year wnvenible.
Deputy Mayor Miller inquired about the first section of the
settlement agreement evd asked iP PG was willing to reinstate the
lavguage that PE would seek to back charge customers through the
Florida Public Service COnvniaeiov. He said the city could oppose
the back charging ofcumomers
Ms Simpson responded to Deputy Mayor Miller's inquiry and
aced what PE w s trying to do is have the city retain the r
and in order [or the city to n the r s, PE veeds to treat e
them es any other fianchise leers, and steteA she can commit w you.
Deputy Mayor Miller responded to Ms. Simpson's remarks and
stated he did not have a problem with PE doing that as long as PE
willing to go to the Plorida Public Service Commission far
roliePand there can be public input Ne again inquired if PE would
to the language and receive the back charge fiom the
s through the Florida Public Barnes Com n. He
said the city may yr may not oppose the back chargesso each
individual wmmissioner or private muasn wold oppose it.
Mr. Raley responded saying that is not really an option for PE to
do that. He said PE istrying to make the city whole and trying to
give the city the ability to secure those revenues.
Ms Simpson said thecollection ofe Henchise tee is not something
PE basto go to the Public Service Commission to do. She said tbis
tetlting that PL does in the ordinary co eoftheir business.
Sheseid P5 has the ability to manage the back collection and
rated the impac ould be m mat to the c a perio0
of years. She said if PE needed to do thaC the ~ustomers would not
Icel a burden.
Com er Bundy said regarding the Ranchise fees,this
that wn'ipeny pays for doing bus orbs uty's rightrof'laways
He said the Stet sup with wmpensetion to [he c es for
sing their rightevf-ways and this does not have to go before the
PSC to wllect those fienchise fees. He proposed if PE would
forego half of the fFanchisef and the uty would refund hull of
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the franchise f that PE has paid to the City of Longwood, and the
uty would retain the ivterest to offset same of the administrative
feet he said vo one vnll receive ell oPthe money and nothing will
tof resides s'pockds Heinquired ifthis is something
bothePE and the Commission would entertain.
Mr. Raley responded saying PE put an agreement together that
would be agreeable to both PE and the City of LonS ood and
asked the Commission to vole affirmatively end move this
forward.
Coco er Bundy m ved to approve the Senlem
Agremmen~ avd Franchise Agreement as emended: the city
would give PE back half of the 5800,000. m
end P6 would agree not to back charge the customers to
collect the aher half, and that the purchase option will
always remain available at thm end of e 30 year timeframe,
and to forward thm agree roPH for their conaidemnov.
Sewnded by Deputy Mayor Miller.
Mr Taylor stated that PE u not giving up eny[h'mg and iPthe city
does not declare it invalid then PH is cot giving up one thing and
rttommended the Commission not eo egreero settlm this
Mayor Mdarson restated [he motion.
Commissioner Bundy moved to extend the meeting for 30
es. Sewnded by Mayor Anderson and carried by a
Mayor Mdarson said Ae had agreed with the frsr half of the
and expressed having a problem with the second half oftFle
n. He recommended his changes o the second part ofthe
moton and expressed some ofhis wncerns.
Mr_ Taylor said the only thing the city is getting out afthis is PE is
still collecting the franchise tee and it is not costing PE anything.
He said even the movey PF. will release ro the city is not mmiay
that bee Dome Due of their povkets, but money PE has collected
from the customers. so PE is not paying an}rthing.
Mr. Raley restated PE's otFer and stated if the Commission staffs
pvningalot of stipulations under the uability. then it's going to
be impossible for PE to agree anyth ng. He cautioned the
Commission to etay within the spirit of negotiations
Ms. Simpwn smted the ffanehisn benaRts to boob ponies
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Disassion ensued regarding the purchase option at the end of a 30
yea trine frame
Coin er Lovestrand expressed that he was goin5 to support
the mahon.
Mayor Anderson said it seems to him anything the Commission
does w Iry end proles the interests ofthe citizuis is always a deal
killer. He stated that M1e will vote agaivn the motion becauee it
does not serve in the interests ofthe cn~zene.
Deputy Mayor Miller sta[wl he was going to in favor ofthis
agreement ae long as there were no snore langnege diangec
Motion carried by a three to two roll call vole with Mayor
Anderson and Commissionor Maingol voting nay.
Coin er Bundy moved to end them ting for 30
ssgeconded by Com ssioner Maingoet xnd carried
by anunanimous voice vote.m
The Commission recessed fiom 11:01 p. m. to I I:Ob ~ m.
[. The City Administrator recommends the City Cmnmission
w the tabulated Solid Warta and Recycling Evaluation
Foro~ and give staRthe Direction tleemed appropriate.
Mr_ Drago said at a W ork Session that was held at the u~d of Iona
[he Commission heard presentstionsfiom the six vendors. He saitl
[he Commission submittetl back to staff their ovalnation proposals
and stafftook [hose proposals, averaged them, and Then rank
ordered the s s. He said listed on the board its a the s s
anked ordered and read the scores. He said he has a list of re
ma Porihe Comm nsidar and asked the Con nsston
to considerone rtent at a time and to voreon eeeh item
Commissioner Bundy moved to approve hem I, which is
therenking order afthe vendors. Seconded by
Com ssmner Maingo[and tamed byaunanimous voice
Commissioner Lovestrand moved to approve Item 2, which
is the level of service Seconded by Depory Mayor Miller
and carried byaunanimous voice vote
Mr. Bob Hyres, Sr. Vice President of Waste Pro addressed
qua bons and/or concerns that the Commission had.
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Depny Mayer Mmer mevea m raaaiaar me aaya fur
collection ofgarbage wllection would be Monday,
Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday; trash collection would be
Wednesday; taycling wllection would be done on the
back end ofthe (rash, and this would be a fve day work
week. Seconded by Commissioner BUndy end carried bya
unanimous roll call vote.
Deputy Mayor Miller moved to only have a residential
ct. Secnnded by Commissioner Loveetrand
and oarriedtby a unanimous voioa vota
Deputy Mayor Miller moved to eneod the meeting for 30
s. Sewnded by Commissioner Aundy and carried by
Cam er Bundy m ved ro have the semi-automated
as the rypa of wllection servioe and to phase this service
a brief period. Seconded by Deputy Mayor Miller and
cvricd by a unanimous voice vote.
Com er Lov and requested Ilia[ a notice be placed in the
water bill w notify petople of the changes.
12. CITY A'ITOANEY'S RF,PORT.
Mr. Taylor said he wil I be out of town for the next. two Commission meetings and
Mr. MCLatchey will attend thosem sings in his absence.
13. CITY CLERK'S REPORT. No report.
14. AD.IOURN. Mayor Anderson adjourned the meeting at ll.5?p.m.
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