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CCMtg07-08-02WSMinLO,VG\Y00D CITY C'O,41iIISSIO\ 1 iin���eud Gilt Camn�ixainn (-bomb— I.n iiF�"��ud. I� lorldaue MORKSE SIO\ Minntcs 1111, S. 2002 Present: Mayor Paul Lovestrand Deputy Mayor Dan Anderson Commissioner gulch Bundy Commissioner John C. Maingot John J. Drago, Ci[y Administrator Geraldine D. Zambri, City Clerk John Brock, Director of Community Services Jay Sargent, Planning Division Manager Debby Reimers, Recording Secretary Absent: Commissioner Steve Miller 1. CALL TO ORDER. Mayor Lovestrand called the meeting to order at 7,00 p.m. 2. REVIEW HISTORIC DISTRICT MASTER PLAN. The Mayor welcomed everyone to the meeting. He indicated that he would allow public participation twice blood the meeting. There —Id be a brief introduction followed by public Input The Commission would discuss the subject matters antl then there would be additional lime allowed for pubile partcipation, followed by any final action the Commission may want to take. Commissioner Maingot moved to suspe,d the rules, seconded by Deputy Mayor Anderson. Motion carried by a unanimous voice vote. Mr. Drago Introduced Ms. Chris Nance of Dix Nance and said she was going to obee. the Master Pian, page by page, to get feedback tram the Commission and the public lithe Commission agrees, they can make changes orschedule additional Work Sessions. MS. Nance gave a brief overview of the Master Plan with lha main goal being to come up with a working plan that addressed street networklny, Iransportatlon CC 07/08IO2 147 system, oignageand provide a sense of community and place- She believes the Plan is very easily i hplema-d The Mayor added that the Plan nestled to be one that would continue to be Implemented Ih,ough future Commissions. The Maya, opened the meeting up for public input. Ju1�. 280 W. Warren Avenue, thanked the Commission for allowing the public to know what he Master Plan is about. She felt that the people sh,hM I— the opportunity to have their say since they will be the ones required to abide by the rules once passed. She asked the Commission to give the people un opportunity to see, imah—tand and comment on them. She —led to see nlmoted public participation permitted on this matter. Terry Holam properly owner, pwch—d his property back when the hospital in the development stage because of the Historic attributes of the area. He ended the Commission (or the leaps they have taken in the redevelopment. He, liked the investment the Cl y has made into the community with the onslrucfirm of the new Community Building. As Mayor of Win., Park, he went through the redevelopmenDowntown Di of the City s DownDistrict. He shared one thing Winter Park did, Winter Park formed a committee composed of people who were opposed to certain aspects of the Plan and by the lime the Commission took the that vote. there was really no one that opposed the Plan. They also assessed the bo mess owners on Park Avenue. Each owner paitl twenty percent of the res ost to redevelop. The ult was, a in business, as well as property 'alne for their Investment. He supports the efforts of the Commssion and thinks Longwood is fortunate that it has a Downtown to develop. The Mayor commented that this was the thirtl opportunity for the public to give their input. The Plan has been discussed in the pastbefore the Historic Preservation Board at length as well as before the Commission. Ms. Nance began reviewing the Plan using visual bitlsmentioning different min t typographical adjustments and meddled bountlary lines that woultl be admae. The Mayor asked if the boundary lines Included the Searcy House on W. Church Avenue. He had seen eltl documents for the Historic District which intended the Searcy House. Ms- Nance responded that she believed it was considered a part of the Historic District She showed the Commission and the audience the correct boundary for the Historic Dprel, CC 07/08/02 148 Corm er Maingot referred to page threeand said he does not agree with Florida Avenue being retained as some form of as alley way and would like it to be treated as every other street The Commission briefly discuasetl Florida Avenue, Ms Nance continued reviewing the Master Plan discussing lacce,hpieg and plant selections. Com er Maingot made some suggestions on the selection of oak trees antl —ted to make sure that there was consideration of the roots when selection is made. The Mayor.'ad the Commission if Ihey wanted to entertain public participation as Me, Nance went along. There was a majority consensus of the Commission Ip allow participation during the presentation. Joan Ad la. Apple Basket, 218 W. Church Avknue. referred to page six, ning the planting didn't suggested- She believed the Sew Tooth palmetto shrubs have sharp leaves and are compared, to child en. and asked that something else be considemd C—misAone, Maingot said if this particular shrub is maimahed properlythey safe and will add chaecter to the Dishct. He menliened other varieties that could be uked he well. Ms. Nance agreed with the Historic Preservation Boartl's recommendation that wood fences are -high maintenance' and that vinyl should be acceptable with the appropriate style. The Commission concurred with Ms. Nance. Using visual aitls. Ms. Nance showed a typical Intersection done wllh bricks. An audience member thought the brick dead, In the Intersection of Pine Avenue and Wilma Street was confusing and could cause an accident. Mr. Drago explai"ad that the brick design they are using causes traffic calming" and makes people $low down_ He believes when the project is finished it wlli alleviate some of the problems. Ms. Nance then presented a visual of what differenl Intersections will look like. The Historic Preservation Board suggested that there be people friendly parks with a mantaln and benches. The members of the Commission agreed. The tlesign of the open lawn area along CR 427 was intended to provitle a nice front CC 07108/02 149 yard to the District and to the Longwootl Hotel, and to serve as overflow parking. lentoo gatherings, and mixed uses. Joan Sicilia, Apple Basket. said she liked the suggestion of adding a fountain antl thought the benches could be used for lunching in a park. She would also like to sae public restrooms in this area. Ms. Nance saitl publlc restrooms were available in Reiter Park which Is within walking d stance. Discussion ensued concerning adding public restrooms in the proposed park_ Commissioner Bundy thought two benches together ,,to look better. He discussed placement of the fountain in the park and gave several suggestions. Ms. Nance continued her presentation discussing stabilized parking versus grass parking in the park closest to Mona Lisa Rlstordu e, There was tliscussion by the Commission and Mr. Drago which offered different suggestions for the design and material to be used In the parking area to avoid a drainage problem. Ms. Nance spoke about the proposed CR 427 landscape improvements and .not over the recommended plantings for this area. mentioning that the Historic Preservation Beard suggestetl using Crepe Myrtles beeauso the Board would like to see some colorusetl. . II was "ad that Seminole County has some restrictions as to hotcan be She gave some suggestetl plantings and discussed it back and forth wish the Commission Ms. Nance then showed what the proposed railroad corridor would look like showing Its existing charade, and the proposed character elevation. Commissioner Buntly inguiretl as to who would maintain this corridor. the City or the railroad. because to was concernetl about using City funds for something the City woultl not be able to maintain. Deputy Mayor Anderson commented that the railroad corritlor and be viewed from every direction and thought it woultl change the image of the corridor from n eye sore to something that would benefit the entire community. He suggested ustalling a sign that people from the train coultl sae welcoming them to Longwootl. Commissioner Mani wanted to recommend Southern Rod Code, be used clang the railroatl corritlor. He saitl it was a good choice and will give a it affect. CC 07108/02 150 Ms. Nance cantinuetl reviewing the Master Plan covering pedestrian and street light ing, street furnishings. site signage and gateway plan_ character of SR 434 and Wlima Strset. and Hlstonc Distract Idontificallon signs. In response to Commissioner Bundy, Mr. Orago said local merchants woultl be able to purchase the same benches that the City uses in the District. The Historic Preservation B,artl suggested that the gateway signs be a,gl,d for better visibility. The Commission discussed which way the sign should face. Pasts Kho Christ Episcopal Church, discussed the directtonaI eigns the Church already has ahbrhd the District antl his desire for new signs to concedewith what the City is doing In the Dlstricr. A member of the audience asked if the Commission would consitler eliminating the lelt turn onto SR 434 at Milwee Street due to the number of accidents there. The Mayor said that was not an issue for the Master Plan. However. he would turn this matter over to Director Baker, who is the City's Traffic Engineer. There was general discussion tram the audience concerning brick road,. sidewalks and drainage. Mr_ Drag, showed the Commission where a proposed wastewater line woultl g, and showed how no wee going to preserve the existing old back road on Freeman Street and erarebit with a border. He also showed where the City plans to install solewalks on Magnolia Avenue As far as drainage on Magnolia Avenue and Freeman Street. an enginoer was currently working on that matter. Ms. Nance continued her presentation of the Master Plan, showing street type,. logo ideas, and the economic study. Pedestrian walkways en private properly re puesdoned by 'he Historic Preservation 6oa', with ragartl 10 legal issues. She said that pered, already have been using their business as a cut through for me time. The new connection would connect the northern portion of the Dlsirlct to the southern portion. Joan Ridilla. Apple Basket, presented the Commission with pictures of Pine Avenue that she had taken before eeting. the mthey showed the current material. crushed shell, being used for the parallel parking. She e,p,,,ed her grain, for the crushed shell and sale It always looks messy, is hard for people to gel off their shoes, and ruins hard woad floors. She said it will be a conslont problem and asked chat somell-1 else be -bit Commissioner Bundy said he did not Ilke the shell either antl suggested colored ra gvel. In the long run, he Ihoughi that colored gravel woultl be a better okioe- P gi9:1f6tiFSt Pastor KnoxChrist Episcopal Church, was concernetl about one of the proposed walkways antl that it would cross over the Church'a retention area. Members of the Commission liked the recommendation of pedestrian walkways. Ms. Nance concluded her presentation and asked for any questions or omthem, Charles Wintrev, 241 West Warren Avenue, discuss.d the crosswalks on the through brick streets antl thought if the white concvete were eliminated it would lake away the contusion on whether to stop or not. Also on the plant selections, he said that people are always trying to get ud of Palmetto shrubs antl asked that something else be conseered, Mary Volkeninp, 241 West Bay Avenuewas con—ned about the parallel parking on the streets and wanted to make surethe mail boxes would still be asl bla by the postal service. She also wanted someone to walk tlown West Bay Avenue to see where they took tlown a Camphor tree. There was still a ,,,no of dlrt that needed to be removed before a sidewalk can be installed, Phil Daimwood, ow r o! 390 Wilma Street and 204 West Bay Avenue. suggested that there era two-way stops In the District that needed to be changed to four way steps to eliminate confusion_ Julie Beryl,— 231 West Bay Avenue, questioned the pop ... d oak trees and the maintenance required for oak trees and wanted to know who was going to aintain the trees if they were fleeter in front of her house. She does not want one in front of her house. Mr. Draga saitl he is sensitive to the Issue of the trees getting too big relative to the of, and the problem she mentioned. The public portion of the meeting was closed. Com er Mongol asketl if they should schedule future meetings now while the audit c was present. Mr. Drag. suggested scYteduling of future meetings be tlone at a regular Commission meeting so all the Commissioners could look at their schedule. 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