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Longwood City Commission Chambers
I't5 W. \tirvrren Avenue
Longwood, FlariAa
REGULAR MEETING
MINU'1'FS
Angnst 2, 1999
Present: Mayor Yanl Loves~ranA
Deputy Mayor S[eve Miller
Com uDan Anderson
Commissioner Rusty Miles
Commissioner Annamnrie Vnarv
John J. Drago, City Administrator
Gernldine D. Tn~mbri, Cily Gerk
Russell McLatchey, Cily Attorn y~pro tam
Tuty~ Baker, Direetm~ of Pnhlic Safety
John 6rock, Uirector o[COmomnity Services
Monica Mitchell, Director o[ Rinrvneial Services
Chief Tom Jnckson, Police Division
Richard Korobinh, Utilities Division Nlnnagcr
Tom SmiHi, Streeev/FICeA Division Manager
Absent: Richard S. TflYIOr, Jr., City A~(nrney (exnuced)
L CALL TO ORDER. Mayor LOVestrand enlledaregular meevng to orderat ].02 p. m.
2. A moment of SILENT MEDITATION wns FOLLOWED BY T}g PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE.
3. COMMUNITY ANNOUNCEM ENTS: There were no annonncenienls.
~. AECOGNITIONS:
A Distriot ft3 Nomination o[BUSinese Person of the Month Por August 1999.
Deputy Mayor Millet nominated Howard end Cathy Richmond, Auction
World CR 4a'l and bay Avenue. Noniinetion carried by voice vole.
5. DOARD APPOINTNILNTS:
A. Dis~riot#2 Nomination to Land Punning Agency.
Commissioner Anderson mm~ine~od Riga Pavers, 429 Columbus Circles
Nomination wmad by a voice voce
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D. District d5 Nomination to the Business Advisory Counal.
Mayor Lovestrand detereed.
6. PUDLIC INPUT:
A PI&rUnation.
The Centml Florida Chapter ofthe NATIONAL SAFETY COUNCIL presemauon
of the prestigious Law Enforcement Trattic Safety Award to the Longwood Police
Departm ,under the direction of ChiefTOm Jackson.
Mr_ Glon Viotor ofthe Central Florida Chapter ofthe National Safzty Counal
presented the prcvtigiuus Law Enfarcemem'imftic Safety Award to the
Longwood Police Depanment. Chief TOm Jackson accepted the award. Mr.
Vict cognized tho dopan end its ChioCfor rhos ~ othe
Nty safety team and especially forthGr oommitment end evolvement with
the railroad ref ycampeign_
B. Public Participation.
Nancy Childus, G_ Logan Strea4 Fire Grant Agree t. Qoe Wed the need for
the Etaeard Mitigation Grant agreemem between the Ciry and the Stale.
Gail Brows; Last Raider Avenue, representing the Wildmere Neighborhood Watch
Association, presemed a petition of four pages signed by residents asking that
additional police oRcers Forthe 1999-2000 year be hired. as well as n community
relations officer and a training officer.
JaMne Rebelia, Loch Lomond Avenue. spoke on the democratic form of
gov and re Winded that the pox rs granted to the Commission-to
represent the people, w re granted by the people
~. CITY ADMINISTR,\[OR'S IiCPORT.
With resvect to Commiseion s direction m bring Ionh a sewer line installation polioy for
nsidera~ n, Mr. Dregor carded, after reviewing the City codes. and noting them
trediai wdhin zthet natellation policy bo wnsidercd in
onjun tion with the proposed rate swetme revtew_
R. MAYOR AND COniMISSIONERS'RET'ORTS:
District K4. No report.
Dis[rict d5. Upon on by Mayor LOVeanend. Commission diswssed holding
a badger ork se on priou oatite next regularmeeting oron ono of the alternate
MoodaysWDuringsdacussion Commissioner Vacca said she had a family commitment and
would not be able to attend on August 9. Commissioner Miles said he had no issues with
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the proposed budget end Eelt no need to heveawork session. Commissioner Anderson
did not believe one hour beforethe next regular meeting would be adequate
Itw sthe eo sof Com scheduleawork session ov Monday_
August 9. 1999,'1.00 p m, to reviewtthe proposed budgex for PY 99/00 and the
Capital Improvement Pizn.
Dist wNI. Cmnmissionor hoes referred to an inquiry he raised some time ago
with reepeo w heahh in ce For City Com n and m one4 thue had bee
previous discussions by the Commission that they (were able to betcovered under the n
city aneaah manranceplan. xealae aiaanaaea wnwheracnmmi==mner waa an
employee. end if helsha was considered an employee, would he/she then be a pan-time
employee end if so, noted pert-time employees are not entitled to be under [tie Ltiry`s
health insumnoe plan. He wnhnued saying that without an ordinance in place with respect
to Commissioners being covered, he thought they were treading on dangerous ground.
He asked for inPnrmetion es to where they stand based on cunettt procedures and polices
in place.
Commissioner Miles indicated his wnstemation that at the ]uly 19 meeting agenda
taken tof order. He noted important items were dealt with whiles e
embers eebsent. Fler tinded that at other timea when some
commisstovers were absent, nmtu were tabled.
Commissioner Mlles also noted that Mayor Lavestmnd, without relinquishing the
gavel, mado motions at the July 19 mewing znd questioned his right vo do so_ Ha referred
to the Commission Rules and Proudwes which state that the Commission will adhere to
Roberts Rules of Order unleas the Cummiasion so changes the rules. Redid not see
anything reFleued in the minmes where the rules were changed and questioned haw valid
wwe the awions mken on ]uly 19.
Mayor Love and wished to addres to point- He said Roberts Rules of Order states
that the chairman has all the privileges of all other invnbus and will continue to do so
ntil it is found. in the Scott Foresman ~ition of Roberts. where he cannot make motions
witnom passing the gzveJ. Cone - er Miles suggested Mayarlavestrand get
opinion from hie parliamentarian fr wtduto which the Mayor replied. he had, evd she said
he could Commissoner NLles suggested a written opinion be obmined.
Distriu H2. No repon_
Dlstrim N3. No report.
9. CONSRN]'AGPNDA:
A. Pay Approved Rills and Estimated Rills for Angnst 1999.
H. Approve Minutee of Ju~• I2, 1999 Special Muting end the July t9, 1999
Regular M1Fewing.
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C- The Fire Division of tl:e Department of Public Safety recommendx the City
Com i authorize themayor to sign the llazanl Mitigation Grxnt
Agrceotent between the City and tho State tl:a[ will provide fiinding to install
hurr to prot :shm window and doo s ofeight city buildings.
D. The Fre RescuetDivi toPthe Depen tof Public Sefty re ends the
purchxxe of the SCUtt Eagle Iornger from Safety Lquipmen[ Company in the
t oP51 S,fi00 and authorize [he Gty Administrator to sign the purchase
order.
6 Computer Serv es Divi not the Fina vial Serv es Depen wads the
City Comm napprov'e pnrchas order to MPl-Net in theeemount of 312,380
Por the deaign,'developmenc codingeand testing of the City's website.
F. purchasing Division of the Financial Services Department recolnmentls tl:e City
Commission approve surplus of the old AS/400 computer system to IBM_
G. Public [Jtilities Division of the Public WOrks DeDxrtmwrt recommends the City
co~nmia:ion approve pnramae maer i.. the nmonnt nr 35oo,oao m Seminole
County for the Cify's eb:l rc or the CR 42] widening project, authorize the City
Administrator to sign the purchase order and approve payment ofthe first invoice
in the amount of 340 439.
Deputy Mayor Miller ved to nsidee Items 6 anU C separately.
Commissioner Miles requested Item G- Deputy Mayor Mller said he
meant Item G_ not G
Deputy Mnyor Miller moved the approval of Consent Items A. C. D. F..
antl F. Seconded by Commissioner Anderson and carried by a unanimous
roll call vote.
Deputy Mayor Miller moved to defer the approval of [he luly 19° n etng
to August l6. 1999. Seconded by Commissioner Mies and carried by
Deputy Mayor Millar moved to approve [he July 12, 1999 Mnutes as
submitted. Seconded by Connnissioner Anderson end carried by
unanimous roll rali vote.
Discussion on Item G ensued with respect to the County requesting payment in phases for
the CR 42]widening. Commissioner Miles asked would it be appropriate as the County
es the Ciry 5900.000 for the ftangeline Road prjut. if the City dekrred their payment
on CR 42] antl reimbursement is received fiom the Coun[y. Mr Drego said, es there
on Rangelino Road, IFom alegal standFlOint_thought both projects should
be kept~eparate. The initial cost estima[e being less that 5500,000 was mentioned- Mr_
Kombluh agreed it was abom 3950.000 but the connruction inspution vests and e
ntingency was not inciudeU in the estimated figure. Deputy Mayor Miller snid ie would
like to see each invoio Dome to the Commission.
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Deputy Mzyar Miller moved to approve Item 9.G. Seconded by
Commissioner Vacca end carried by e four/one roll call vote, with Mayor
Loveshand. Deputy Mayor Miller. Commissioner Anderson end
Comm~bsioner Vaccav Zing aye and COmm~ss~oner Miles voting nay_
td. PVRI.IC HEARINGS:
A Finance Division ofthe Pinanoial Services Departmem rewmmwds the City
read by title only and adapt Ordinance No. 99-1485, which amends
the Fi <sal V'ear 98/99 budget-
Mr. Mclatchey announced proof of publication frr all public hearings listed nn the
agenda.
Mr. McLatchey read Ordinance No- 99-1485 by tide only.
Mayor Lovesvand opened the public hearing. No one present spoke in favor or in
opposition.
Deputy Mayor Miller moved to close the public hearing. Seconded by
Commissionee Vzeca and carried by e voce vote.
Commissioner Vacca moved ro adopt Ordinance No_99-1485. Sewnded
by Deputy Mayor Miller end carziad by unanimous roll call vote.
6. Punning Division of the Community Services Department recommends, based on
the LPA rewmmendation, thzt the City Commission read by tide oily end adopt
Ordinance No. 99-148'1, vanating and abandoning that certain portion of an
easement at ]I] Raven Avenue (Lot 9, Skylark Subdivision, PB (1, PG 8<).
Mr. McLatchey read Ordinance No. 99-148'1 by title only.
Mayor Lovestrand opened the public hearing. No one presem spoke in favor or in
opposmon.
Deputy Mayot Miller moved w close the public hearing- Seconded by
Commissioner Vacca and curried by a voice vote
Commissioner Anderson moved to adopt Ordinance No. 99-148).
Seconded by Deputy Mayor Millet.
Lose of use of this nt by the City ifa portion were vecnteU. was diswssed_
Com w s adv sad eihet the pott t ot'the subject ezsemcnt wee no[ used now. isa
side yard'ewsement. and it will not be needed.
Motion curried by a unanimous roll call vote-
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C Fina ceDivision ofFinancal Services Depart etde the Commission
read by title only and adapt Ordinance No. 99-I4A8oan ending the Law
Enforcement Block Grant to purcltese additional equipment essential to the law
enforcement operation ofthe City oFLongwood Department o[Public Sa( y.
Mt_ McLatchey reed Ordinance No_ 99-1488 by title only.
Mayor Lovestrand opened the public hearing-
No one present sVOke in [var.
Nancy Childers, Logan Drive, spoke in oppos zing the performance of the
police depanntent while saying she di0 not believe they needed tiny more money, nor did
the [ire Depanmel:t_ nor were shutters necdod_
No one else spoke in opposition.
Deputy Mayor Miller moved to close the public nearing Seconded by
Commissioner Miles and carried by voice vote.
Deputy Mayor Miller moved to adopt Ordinance No.99-1488. Seconded
by Commissioner Vacw.
In response to inquiry, Deputy Mayor Miller was advised that the money would be
ved from to gran and es the Teen llan cad of funds at this e,
than ney willanow bo used to purchase omputers for law enforc tit personnel"
Therefore, four computers will not have to purchased out ofthe nrzt year's budget-
Motion carried by unanimous roll call vote.
D. Plan ring Division of the ('ommunity Services Depan ends, in
Gordan withthe LPA reeonnneudations. that theCiy Con mission approvea
Slgn Agre with Eller Medin. accepmble in form and text to the City
Atto ney and tit ordance.vith Commission Final Action.[Cor+rtnuedjrmn Jnly
l9. 1999 tneeting]c
Mayor Lovestrand stated althoueh this is not en ordinance. a public hearing is needed.
Mr. Drago concurred.
Mr. Drago said there was a question raised last week as to whether the school board has
any wntrol end he found they do, end in a letter from the school, they have said when the
sign comes down, they hav noCpmting anything up. HelWhu spokes
represenmtive at the school board and it is their policy, that anything erected is erected in
compliance with local laws and polices.
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The Mayor opened the public hearing
Mr-Lou Musics tepreswnng Eller Medizx wished to reitera[e than they would be
vinga non-conforming sign and replacing it with aconforming sign. He further
refe~red to the second letter Gom Lyman High School snaking the 6rs~ letter moot whioh
stated they have no intention of replaoing the sign
]o Anno Rebello. Loch Lomond Avenue, said rho was speaking in oVPOSition for sevetel
onS the most compelling re sthat all fear wue nos ptesented. Qoe
sad on July l9 whichw eyed. Sho indicated co nthat the school
boardrdid not have tD abide by the (Ryas code If approved this sign would be moved
Gom -onforming site to another non-wnforming si e. Ifthe new sign code were
in plaweth snapplieetion would not be considered. She then refrred to the proposed sign
code evd asked why. s in has been presented to Comminion back in December of
1998, it took so long forest to be Vlaced on the agenda Further, it was her understanding
that the Commission wished to cap the number of billboards, end evwsually decrease the
umber and asked ifthisw still the desi eoEthe COn or Bad thephlosophy
changed. Tonight. the Commission haz the opportunity to lower the number of billboatds
and she urged the Commission to see tNs for what it was.-. a request far e norfcooforming
billboard no a reloc anU re rinded drat Longwood does not havejuriedictlon over
who[ is pu[ on school board progeny.
Nadine Toles, Highland Bills spoke in opposition to the agreement noting the ourren[
sign code does not have a distance restriction from residemial areas. the prior codes did.
the proposed one does also- Fifly-eight feel from e residential area down t cut it. Neither
the wrrent nor the proposed node allows billboards in (he proposed location. She said she
celled the school board end we Gave nojurisdiu~on over school property- She said she
elm talked to Mr-Momary- ~Ite high school principal, and he informed her that it was not
their mission to hive billboards on Their progeny and Eller has been asked to mks it down-
Thissignwouldnotbeincomplianceunderwrrent coda or the Ntwre code. She asked
the Comm to pass lhn egreeinant end ~o ask Eller Media to find another location
that would make them complianr
Mayor Lov and after receiving she parliamenlanen s advise, allowed Mr-MU510a to
again speak.
Mr. Mus a addresmd co Wade'. the Wade that the sdiool w nted the
signr oved is mfansiftlic Corti on den sthe redevelopme [aapplica
true
the sign wily in 1'acr- xtay bacauso Lller has a contreol with His school. e otlfioedolnnin
widen s. there s wive separate LPA meetings were advertised and this one
e advertised: toff and the'uy etorney agreed this request does fit within ehe current
sign code parameters and he referred ~o Seuion 2461 of the Land Development Cade
which allows this sign to be relocaied-
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No one also spoke in favor or r i opposruon
Commissioner Miles moved wclose the pubha hearing Seconded by
Comnnssroner Vacca and carried by a voice vote.
Com er Miles enders oad that through the sign agreement a sign can be ro- located
exelus nary zo eif agreedroby Comm n; but ifon nmd to wsign,
they could not do so nMr. Sargent said the existing code allows for the relocation of a
billboard as per 24 61.
Mayor Lov and asked if there any plat nthe ordina arbor says the Ciry would
tryto reduce the number as bile collet arbor ead ofoutlawing
billboard; it was a compro e of 19 signs. Mr. Sargeno was not aware of any section in
the code to reduce the number-
Mr. McLatchey said it as Mr. Taylor s pos n that withstanding the i e addressed
n the letter fmm dsep ncipal. Mr. Taylor ned that the school could put ups
billboard where the current billboard is withouuaddressing the City's current land use
provision.
Commissioner Anderson said it was his undemanding that billboardz etc. were ancillary
and come under the Land Development Code and the school could not have
dad wither ring to z Mr Drego replied he was wrrcct. As to whether the
sochoolewants the billboard their property, Mr. Drego replied it was completely volunrary
on Ellu's pmt.
Commissioner Mlles moved to reject the agreement with Eller Media_
Seoonded by Deputy Mayor Miller.
Deputy Mayor Miller said he did not believe, for instance, ifLOngwood Elementary
n[ed to builds wdiemondthey would comefo the uty and ask their pumission end
also believed as the Lyman principalw tthe Fnal authority he could no rely on his
Jett r. How r. ifthe school board had se alert saying that align willtnever be
erected et this school, he might have been more comfortable
Commissioner Anderson said his major problem was the Commission had co provide an
exception in order for the sign to be placed in an exclusionary zone and would have
preferred it be placed in an allowable section.
Commissioner Vaoea was concuned with putting the sign in an exclusionary zone in that
n ne has heard from any people in that area and believed, as in pas hisory, they will not
speak outuetil the sign is put up.
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Mayor LOVestrand said he was speaking in favor. This company has anon-conforming
sign now end that' would like to upgrade the sign and it would be put in a wmmerdel
wrridor_ People were notifieU and peaplm ditl not wmeforward.
Motion to reject enrried by e rourlone roll call vote, Deputy Mayor Miller,
Commissioners Anderson, Miles end Vacca voting aye and Mayor
I.oves[mnd voting nay.
E. Planning Division ofthe Community Services Department recommends the[ the
City Commission read by title only and adopt Ordinance tio. 99-1489, repealing
rery, Section 24-80, City Stag, o[Ar[inle Vlll, Administration, of
the Land Development Code.
Mr. Mciatchey read Ordinance No. 99~ 1469 by title only.
Mayor LOVestrand opened the public hearing.
to Anne Rebello, Loch Lomund Avenue.. spoke in opposition, and most particularly
bec eof the motivadons behind this change. Certain embersofthe Comm -on do
Issi
not like the way some departments handle personal miners, so to facilitate their own
pars nal needs have decided to eorgan order to get receptiv response Eom
oiry ~mff Noting she has not heaN one wmpelling tee on fo~this dtenge other than to
ooaocate developmevtt permitting flrootiona es was stated in the ]oly l9 agenda memo.
The main thrust of this rewmmendation is not so much that Sec[ion 24-BO does not
belong in the land Development Code (LDC), but in order to proceed with the
reorganization. 2480 most first be removed end. therefore she opposed the ordinance.
Nadine Tolos. Highland Hills. spoke in opposition, and said the commission was
exuo sing its authority for that whioh they should not be involved.
Deputy Mayor Miller moved eo G06e the public hearing Seconded by
Commissioner Miles-
Ueputy Mayor Millar moved to adopt Ordinance No_ 99-1489_ Seconded
by Mayor Lovestrand.
Commissioner Miles said x sententcein the agenda memo that bothers him was et the
reque toPCity COn stafl'in order o-loc to development perm ring func
staffhes been requested to Caoilitatea reorganization, etc He had no meolleeeion thatothe
Commission ever gmntod a wnsensus m tho Administration to so reorganize and_
therefore. would vote egeinn approval at dris time Would entertainamotion to table to
when ould address tltie relocationthat is being addressed in this ordinancre. He saiU
wa are swtding a sigtral that we should not be sending
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Com er Vac indicated co with goin6 forward with this realigning of
Community Services end Public SafexysMeyor Lovestrand interrupted saying
Com er Vxcca was talking to the next Ordinance. Commissioner Vacca responded
saying by doing this stop we are purling in placearequir ealign in the next
ordina e. She c ued saying in list ring to tapes and co Wade, aced
that the Admi in Poll agree and if hew in Favo why ar
going fotwnrd He slmuld be ableto delegate how hew sthent tup.rFUttherafunding
in place fbr this and on the next ordinance we doing to reorgen ze and was
opposed for those two reasons
Com er Miles said w earlier disc sled that there eed for quit a few
n the CDC and collectively agreed to allow a consulum review end revise the
code which would supercede the current code and put us on solid ground and objected to
makinS modifca s. Whydon we leavetheprofessionalstodotheirjob. E{e further
objeced to - Waging. Con er Miles further said he needed numbus and
cast animates to consider becatue the next ordinance dents with n lot oPthat.
Mayor Lovanund said this was a clean up ordinance and intended to vote for it.
Motion earned by a three to two vote. Mayor Lovestrand, Deputy Mayor Miller
and Commissioner Anderson voting aye Commissioner Miles and Commissioner
Vacca voting nay.
The Commission recessed from 825 p.nt. to P i7 p.nt_
F. The City Administrator recommends the City Commission read by title only and
adopt Ordinanee Na 99-IA90, whieh nmentls Chapter 2, Longwood Cily
Cade, relnlive to the coinpusitian of City Departments.
Mr. McLatcl~ey rod Ordinance No- 99-1490 by title only-
Mayor Lovestrand opened the public hearing
Ludy Putz, 280 W. Warren Avenue, spoke in opposition, noting her comments would be
taken kom olfieial minutes end tapes and some were personal opinions which situ would
e opini what tlteyw e She said there was neveremotionwbring forth an
ordina relxti o the contpos t of city depart s the only m o reque t
LPA to review Portrho deletion of a Dortion of the I,OC which is in conlliu wrth the
general Code. Funhu there was no mention et subsequent work sessions or regular
etings. She questioned comments made by Deputy Mayor Miller and conversations
with certain BUff members She criticized the spending of over SI00000 of [arpayers
onay to do a major reorganization of staff and of votinS in favor of authorizing the City
Administrator to make those ohanges end to make thorn immediately- She questioned why
and offered a scenario that it was due to Deputy Mayor Miller having an illegal garage on
his property. noting she has heard Aim go through quite a dialogue of whet he has had to
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go through to make'it legal. 12 was her opinion when he mould not get Lt. Yelvingwn to
make an exception for his garage he Beaded to reorganize Public Safety and eliminate
Mr_Yelvington's position. Wethe tarpayus who are being asked to pay for the change.
so he can thumb his nose at the airy law,. Justifications put forth are for the moat pert
and was asking the wmmission to be financially responsible and vote ageit st
this ordinance.
]o Anno Rebello_ Loch Lomond Street. spoke io opposition to the ordinance, saying the
change would most St 00.000_ Since inception of the Public Softy. the various divisions
have been working well She asked Cnr the fans end figures to show these divisions are
working which would got support this change. Suggested that those members of
the Commission who are micro-nunaging and speaking to employeea ere in violation of
the City Charter. She suggested to stop disassembling or show some true compelline
facts.
Nadine Tolos Highland Hills. spoke in opposition, asking wiry fix it if it isn't broken
oting it has been working well. Believed this commission has lost sight as to needs of the
and has taken a diuetorial attitude forparsonal benefits- And referred to an
earlier attempt by some members to abolish the Poliu Department. which appears to have
ver been put to rest, end also parronal warns of some- She said these do not justify this
es a means to the end end asked that the ordinance not be passed.
Rex Anderson, Peaott Way. spoke in oppesitioiy asking that things be IeH as they ere
they are working fne_ Ile addressed Deputy Mayor Miller es to self interest end tlret
politics be left out of this and tFat tFe ordinance be voted down. He discussed having
hall nafftu with[he exceptiotofpolice end agreed they should get more money
and a training food ty, and complimented the police Cor being one othhe outstanding police
forces in the state. Asked that the ordinance be voted down.
Phyllis Turner_liarbor Isle, resident sines 1981. spoke in opposition to theordinence. She
believed that Director Baker, Chieflackson and Lc Yelvington were doinga goodjob
and. pert cvlarly, Lt. Yelvington_ since he has been given authority in Codes Enforcement.
please think twice. also wnsider the money to be spent that afP is the taxes. She did not
believ so bad to lieu oval from ne building to other omplue e
permitting process If there are so many complaints that something needs to be done,let
us know. She Curthat ned it tnght to change the order of the agenda at the
lest me ring when ther0 was not a fullswmmrssion
Deputy Mayor Millis moved to close tFe public hearing SeooWed by
Commissioner Anderron and cartied by voice votr_
Uepury Mayor Milly moved to adopt Ordinance No_99-1490. Seoonded by
Commissioner Anderson.
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Commissioner Anderson responded w cenain points made: I) order of agenda was
changed because public bearings were published Cor ]:00 P.M. and in the interest of
oving on, rhos ved ahead- 2) a ring his way,
thie ordina will snotschange tthe modes in any wey~3) a onpending over $100,000,
ns 1o both buildings w s already planned and systems furniture was being
n~idered for Planning, vinyl siding for both, so the only direct expense was to do
intunal renovations to the lnspec tons building.
Commissioner Miles noted funding will be approved if neat year's budget is approved and
thought the ordina a should bet me effttt a upon adoption of the ~ w budgU.
6olieved the Inspec ns Division is working good, unlike under the p ev
admi and be lied a mtber ofiss n that tarred et thm ~ L~ is the
enfore tof building codes that makes niy hev value axpayers
adhere o the Code is the way it should work and that s the way it is working now. It was
changed then make it font Hal and now trying to raven beck. If [he Codes ate wrong,
change the COUes but don't change the people who enforw the codes This isabed
ova, for whatever reasons. The system'is working good and frh thue was no needto
change it; additionally, said there was no qua nthat it will cost more money. Need to
look long antl hard; it s not brake. so don't fx ~.
Deputy Mayor Miller objected to being accused oftwisting Lt. Yelvingtoti s arm to do
illegal things and said the fgct is that he does not have an illegal anything Code provides
Cor en individual to have a utility shed and gxragea on their property and he has asked frr
advise end has filed fora vananoe_ Ne objected to people poking arounU his property for
other reason then to make trouble Ne said his variance npplicat~on ie leenl and thueis
justifcationf rit, so the issue isanon-issue. With respect to comments made by Mrs.
Putz that he had wmplained of uniformed oRcers being in the inspections ofioe he said
his s that he thought tber tething w ong with having to ask a police
officer fovea pen when eed oRcers fo~other things and also refttted other
comments made by Mrs_ Putz
An audience paaiupent nsked to speak on the issue- Sba was advised the public hearing
was closed.
Commissioner Miles moved to reopen the public hearing. Seeonded by
Com er Vac a Mnyor Lov and spoke again eopening. n ring ample
nnsston c estr st r o
ume had been afforded to those who wished to speak.
Motion t9iled [n Derry by n three to two vote, Mayor LoveslranQ Deputy Mayor
Miller and Commissioner Anderson voting nay, Commissioner Miles and Vacce
v ring aye.
Mayor Lovmtrand thought this whole issue had been blown out of proportion, as it ~s a
Hall change which entails moving tw nspec end a seae[ery or es tFOm
one supervisor to another area. It is absolutely the City Commission's funUion to define
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departments as per Ordinance No. 955, Personnel Policies. and by the Chaser, to assign
dun and responsibilities of the depart t. This ordina eekst take a Hall port
t of Public Safety; there is Hato uty ceecounty in Cen«al Florida that hoe the 6uildingn
d'vi under the Police Diswssion zbout the gree expen e; that expan to put
modular furniture which is more flexible end to add v nyl siding and is not sperigeally for
this move- Believed police should do police work and Huilding inspeuionsshuuld be
oved into Planning and that it can beimproved upon. As to stetunents and dyua saying
that this is the first step in dismantling tM1e Public Safety Department, it is not true- It
ould requir achett endure and the deadline is passed to endure
nd he has nofdismantling the Public Safety Depanment`but believes then
Building Depanmentobelongs with rho Planting DeVartmenl.
Comm er Anders talked to implem ring there ether ould
be valid5 saying i[it ondict betty mothers the relocation would occur end the
efi~t ve date of the ordina e, that perhaps the ordinance date oould be chatrged_
Mayor Lovestrand replied that this is enabling legislation in order to pet it into the budget
and m Hey will not be spent until the next fiscal year.
Mr. Drago said. as far as expenditure of money. that was correct. What could take place
upon adoption of the ordinance is that various functions will repon to diffuent
supervisors but mould remain in their current offius until the plan is devised w make the
move plrysically.
Commissioner Miles asked to be recognized- Mayor Lovestrand said he had spoken to the
and said he would give the Moor to Commissioner Vacca. Commissioner Miles
said he had only spoken once and called a point of ordu. Mayor Lovestrand yielded to
Commissioner Mles.
Mayor Lovestrand said ho would give the floor to Commissioner Veow he heard her ask
frst.
Commissioner Vacca yielded w Commissioner Miles.
Commissioner Miles did not believe improvements were being made by pursing
Inspections bank under Community Services; 'n had been there and was changed two years
ago bemuse it was not.vorkin6 well there. fie retErenced issues that had oocurred when
Building inspeuions was not under Public Safety enA noted that inspections was working
well under Public Softy and bel'mved there was no need to reorganize. to reassign
parsonne~to change supervimra Wlty change when it is now working well.
Com a Vacca pointed to,aurveys that indicated setisGe[ion with the Inspections
Uivisio'n9 i~o one spoke infovor of the ordinance, Nced to step beak and look at what is
going to be done: tlo not have the funding in place right now and believed it was wrong
end intended to vote egeinn the ordinance.
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Coin er Miles zsked Mr.Drngo if Mr. l3rockw inf var of taking on the
responsibility. Mr. Drago said it is the Commission's right to dictate how they want to
organ and steEE s duty to Eollow Commission's directives. lie said if it is proven not to
work!itecould be changed back.
Com er Miles then asked ifthis change was being re mended because it has been
proven to not work. Mr. Drags said nc. n is working now.
Mori rried byathree with Mayor Lov and, Deputy
Mayor Mlller, Con ner Andusonv ring aye Commissioner Miles
and Vacae v ring nays
Commission recessed from 9.42 p m. to 9:52 pat.
G. The Charter Advisory Committee recommmtds the City Convnission read by title
only and adopt Ordinance Na. 99-1491, proposing amendments to the
Longwood City Charter, pursuant to ArticleX Sution I0.01(A). prortding that
said proposed entuldments be submitted on the ballot to the voters at the nett
gueral election to be held on Tuesday. November 2, 1999.
Mr. McLatchey read Ordinance No- 99-1491 by [itle only.
Mayor Lovestrand opened the public hearing
Mr. Crain Van Hooves, Thames Circle, first stated that the Agenda Item read incorrectly
n that this oNine acted by the City Con on from [hoe endure
mendcd by the Chnrtu Advisory Committee- mHe said it was completely within the
City Com 's purv oepprnv or deny any of ther endati and did no
believ ould be aderel ctt'noftheir duti ated by Mro. Love and6HOw
they ar wring as r repres a But with that mind, being the elected olfitials,
is necessary Ihat dray hear tl a willvof the puVle end try to act favorably [o their desires.
Dan McCoy, Maine Avenue said the citizens should be able to vote on every
reoommendetion brought forth by the Chener Advisory Committee.
IoAnne Rebellq Loch Lomond Street, spoke in opposition to this version of Ordinance
No. 99-1441, but wholeheznedly proposed the original version proposed on July 19. Said
she as a member of the Chaser Committee she did not take her assignment lightly end
believed the Committee tried ro recommend changes to bring Longwootl imo the new
millennium end belioved the citizens had [Ire right to vote on the amendments ns proposed
by the Committee
Nadine TOlns, Highland hills, spoke in opposition to the proposed ordinance as it stands;
favored sudine all the questions to the voters-And believed the voters were intelligent
enough to understand and vote on the amwtdmutx Ms. TOlos also questioned the
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Chair Bright to make motions and she read excerpts from Roberts Rules of Order
with respea o the Chair of being able t make m s She suggested that n taken
a prix [ing bar rsed based Roberts Rules otf Order end that the Chai rincorrectly
made muttons et the prior ma ring when this ordinance was at firer reading
Deputy Mayor Miller moved to Gose the public hearing Seconded by
Coin er Anderson and carried byavoine vote, with Commissioner Miles
v m,gt zy n
Mayor Lnv antl addressed Ms. l'olos saying the City has adopted the Scott
For an Edition of Roberts Rules of Order and version Ms. Tolos was referenungw
of the proper one end suggested Ms_ ialos reference the Scot[ Foresman Edition, not rig
he has researched this and found nothing in the Scott Eoresman Edition that says he
cannot make mohons.
Deputy Mayor Miller moved to adopt Ordinance No.99-149t. Seconded by
Commissioner Anderson.
Com er Miles said when 99-1491 was first introduced, all amendments, with minor
modillca eagreed upon. lie noted that this modified_with only six of
the orig'in'al emendme ntlte Ordine eCom eroMilns in favor ofgivi gthe
ra the right to vote on the 13 einendments that were brought forth on ]uly 12. Hefelt
the democratic process was being restricted by not patting all the amendments. as
proposed by the Committee, on the ballot and.vould not favor the ordinance as Presented.
He asked that Commission put their faith in the electors.
Commissioner Anderson said the Chatter, like the Constitution. should only be cltenged
fora demonstrated wuse_ Initially, he did not support all the amendments-Ited
questioned so e. Hew mad tin o think about thorn and to talk to people about them.
After which he decided he weld i of support ell of them He also helieved that to place
all of the proposals on the ballot was asking rho citizens to vote yes. However. believed
that only the o es proposed in the snbj«t ordinance can flx something. As to stifling
den racy, anyone who disagrees with theCommission. can exeruse the petition process
ifthey kel we etc doing such a disservice,
Deputy Mayor Millu said it was not the Chxrter Committee's plecew report oche public
but to bring Corthr endmi is for the tsidera not the Com owhat to
place on the ballot. It is Commissionsdeasion as to what Soe on tltetballotft
Mayor Lovestrand asked if it was more demooratio to pat on the hallot the wishes of an
appointed co rthe wishes of the elected oRcials. l'he Committee did theirjob.
forwarded the amendments to Commission and Commission did what he thoughtwes
o select dioee they thought should goon the ballot. Said he wnld not in good
support all of the amendments and he oiled some examples of what he
perceived as problems with some of the amendments He also emphasized the petition
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method was available for anyone who wished to place any of the amendments on rho
ballot.
Commissioner Miles said jun beoeuse we bring somrahinS forward doosn't mean it will go
through but thought the citizens were emitted to vote on all the proposals-~ should be
endued to their input.
Com er Vac ended to c against this ordine and felt the Com on Uid
of havethe right to deude what xts bmt for the c end asked that all amendments
recommended by the Charier Advisory Committee bezDlaced on the ballot.
Mayor Lovesvrend again reiterated his disagreement with placing all the amendments on
the ballot.
Mr. Mclatcltey said what this Commission is about m do is solely within their disuetion
:n adopting those provisions they think are appropriate.
Motion carried by a three to two vote, Meyer Investrand_ Deputy Mayor Miller
and Com: er Anders ring aye end Comm,sstonm Mles and
cnmm:aa:oner vauav ring twy.
Com stoner Miles requested to be excused end left the dais at this point :n the me ring (10.30
p'n )mis
H. The Planning Division ofthe Community Services Department recommends, based
n the LPA recommendation. that the City Commission read by title only, a
August I4. 1999 as the second Dublie hearinS and approve the frst reading of
Ordinance No. 99-IJ84, nntentling selected sections of Article II, Permitted
Uses, Cmtditiunal Uses and Accessory Uses, Article VIII, Adminis[ratio,n rind
Article I.%, Application Procedures, (drn[t 4ES99) of Ilse Lnnd Development
Code. [Cnrminned jam Jrst~~ [9, 1991 rneetnt8)
Mayor Lovestrand discussed items H. and I.. ring a ork session had been scheduled to
disc ss Item 1., how r, ther was no quo m and said perhaps commission may want a
work eession on bothsi[ents. e
Deputy Mayor Miller moved to table Items H and t and schedule a work session to
rev,ew both- Motion died for lack ofn sewnd.
Commissioner Anderson moved to table Item 10.11. to September'/. 1999_
Seconded by Deputy Mayor Miller and carried by voice vote.
1. Planning Division of the Community Services Depanmvtt recommends the City
Commission read by tide only and adopt Ordinm,m No. 921JJ1, repealing and
replacing Article VI, Sign Negnlations, in its entirety.
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Commissioner Anderson moved w table Item ]0 L to September 7, 1999_
Sounded by Deputy Mayor Miller and tamed by voiu vote.
Commissioner Vanca IeA the dais at this point in dte meeting (10-3] pm_)
By consensus of the Commission. a work session was scheduled on August
23, 1999 at 7:00 p. m. to discuss Items H, and 1.
11. REGULAR BUSINESS:
A- The Dire rof Public Sefery recommendstbe City Commission review the trallic
stutly fort\Vest warren At'enue and take the appropriate action.
Director Baku reviewed memo dated August 2. 1999 and e+plained the evaluation
ompleted on different speed limits for W. Warren Avenue aftw which some discussion
ensued
Deputy Mayor Millarmovad to leave the speed limits as wrtently posted.
Seconded by Commissioner Anderson and carried by voice vote. with
Commissioners Miles and Vecu absent.
B_ flnenu Division of rho financial Services Ucpenment recommends [he City
Commission read by titloonly-set August 16. 1999 as a public hearing end
approve the Brst reading of Ordinanca No. 99-1 A92, amending the budgra for
FY 98/99.
Mr. McCetchey read Ordinanu No. 99-1492 by title only.
Deputy Mayor Miller moved to acuVt Ordinance No_ 99-149y on Erst
readinS and to schedulea public hearing for August Ifi. 1999. $ewnded
by Commissioner Anderson.
Deputy Mayor M7ler qua tied rhea icipated se erpen end Mr_Drago
responded 'n urfm ce far employee title Parks area Mayor
Lov and end Coma w Anderson spoke in favor both noting (here were noticeable
improvemewtts in the grounds ei ound the City Hall and at [he perks.
Motion carried by a three to zero vote. Mayor Lovertrand. Depnty Mayor
Miller end Commissioner Andersmi votin¢ aye. with Commissioners Miley
end Vecca absw~t.
12. CITY ATT012NEY'S I2I~:POR'f. No report.
13. CLTY CLEBK'S REPORT. No report-
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lM1. nDJOUY2N. Nleetinq adjourned at 1040 prc~.