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p{ay 2J, 1999
PRESS ~': \1ajor Paul Locevnand
Depurj-byor Scere jl'iller
Commissioner Dan .inaenon
Commissioner Ru7p Miles
John J. Dngo, Cif jdmNismior
Geddine D. Zambri City Clerk
rliemrd s.'raylor.p, ror=r«or„np
Bolin U. Bomvonh_ Deputy City Clerk
iBSF\-1'. Commissoner ~nnmm~ric 3'acc~(cvwsed)
L CALL TO ORDER.
~me >lapor mina a spodal mewing ro orate ar ]ms p.m.
2. CONSIDER AND VOTE ON THE POSSIBLE REMOVAL OP MR. JIM
DALY FROM THE CHARTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND T}[E
BOARD OF ADJUSTMEM' FOR CAUSE.
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on d,u rcxolunon on tlicanmc mce Kivat poor ro ur Commission mceciny
]cone ]. 'Inca was already a meenng sdi Ied [oi 'and he would call a Special
~Ienring for x~,i p.m. He opcnod droll ~toran~ d ~e,s diswssion.
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eon,missinnm ahlc,~regnea aapointof oa~e~ respeaal nleadngagcn~haa tw.o
~uidomnon_ ncidier of whidi inarolved dte drafting or appronl of a resulntion.
I le bel eyed, in accordance avid[ the Chaner and by Iho Commission's iiules and
Iarocedur ,uid be ~nappropriarotot the Comm~ssi ,~t thisn odiscuaa aurh an
ncm since n avus nc tagendi~sl,
;Mayor I.ovmtnnai ansavered ~ha~ d,e irem afls agendi:ed and it avns considering a rain on
possible rwnoval. the Commission avonld cote on this possible removal sad it would be
phrasM in the form solo[ nEot d,en dng. Ita ,Ihc ngenM v,d he did
cogniec that po aof Grder. If Cummissoner Miles wanted. dia Commusion could
a ore on mm point of order.
Commissioner,\tiles smtod heavonld like m app®I to die padiamenettion since Ae
Commission may be Wending nn ifFy legal gruwd.
lhyor ~nveamnd responded it aa~, not ifq.legm grum,d when me con,mi::ion bred yo-.
smim.
Commi==~~ner \liles said \1r. Smith recited, if h¢ was not misml.en.
~ tud tha sdugui.'ed. 'Ihe othing lid he vi very clear
r,.. of v~fint i..c Communion would mnsidrr and a~oa on die possible runo~al.
d. st flag he didn anything abau tsidma
noril andh bpi Jdialw ~ athandtl fl believed
ndid nol ha.ed,e issue ut hand, the Comrzussion avas notalloaveJ. by hav,
to v ~rltl..,..: this omc.
Mayo[ [.ov strand srutad heavonld I'rstcn ro Commissioner Atiles' appcvl to Ac Ciry
nnomey- e
Mr. Taylor opined tl,al tl,e way dte iecm was agandized, it did not mw~don, specifinlly. a
asoludon bathe tlroughr it.wfdcicnt a to the notirn ro ~ntn on fie possible runaval Ihat
would include dte preparation of the resolution. [n and of itself vodng ro Arak it does not
anybody and under the Smm e, the pers ould still haac the right ro due
and the pto of the Stain ecd robe followed a.. what Neullegadon\wete wr
removal andctl~e opportunity For dtcaccuscd ro be heardrot n public hcanng.
Ucputy Mayor Miller mted d,at before he msde d,e ;he tlrough[drer
proeedur -tlse Com nhadto dednewhst charges oould be in tl,cr.co un and
what specified fic¢ should be inclucircl, before the Commission actually moved m bring
voni o resoludon. I Ic teed inro the rc:mM trvo letmrs so drat e.etpbody prescntwould
knmvjust whae this wacall about."Chc lctttt Aatrd.\pn13o, I999.ro'r '~hn l''. ~ r-ity
A 1 or, from II G.' Ra tdt Gt dl, 1'vhibit I'_and 1 lenc~
m Commissioner pawl I.ovrstrand, From tynclxe Dninu~, `f.hibit2', am at ~ ia~ ~~
fiough fully conminad heron.
Oepnry.adayor \liller cud,sting us tl,e'st lette sz~ggesred,heasked ar undhe
as6ed air. Uoly about his conduct and he proudly shoos his Eager in hu' fire v~d admitted
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t-hc ated c~aetly. +-hv'- who undo~t drat \lr. Ihly had adm aad sa
b .or'me ..I-p ntmgil Ica.Fa~cc.n mir
r~gani ~mdet tiuc_n ~ ~ I.
Depn~. ~Millu ved tba solm nbe brought forward et
Utc '. ~blem nivg, by theaCiry Adm true City
Auomey,twi.ieh specifies facts, namely these facts, and removes Mr.
Daly Gom Ciry Boards.
\h.or In„nnAaskul Deput Tlac 5tillu ifhewould add mine nmotnonm be
give t as soon u possible ro ~Irf Daly so that he can respond as per me5nmte
Deputy \layor Miller replied. absolutely. He restated me motion-
Depr~ty Mayor Miller moved to bring (ornard a resolmion specifying
enese taus and advising the municipal board member drat as the basis
for his suspension or removal and giving him reasonable notice that
he will be removed iv auortlanee with Plorida Smeute 112.SO1, Seudon
(2), (n), and (b). Seconded by C,ommiesloner Anderson.
Commimona \lilcs understood mae the quosuon before me Commission wv' m vain on
the pvmge ofa solar . fle belieceda solar wimouc due
proce.. and a headng prosidni~ nit. thly would be enem~ly asnppropriatc
Deputy Mayor Mille. chimed n Koine of Ordec. 'the motion clearly cannincd provisions
or Tir. Daly m spuk an his awn benalfand be notified of tltc frets and gave nim
ru,sonablc nova: as ma Svmm stamd.
Commivionat ~filcs raid ha would not be in [aver af.vdng for mix moron. I le tuns in
-axo afa oJta salon nallowiag Air. Dalvancanng ou rho inaclrnc Luc
.~I anal such ri as me Com n has had on oppor niry ro hunt from both sidac
fa~'me cam ,t mia at nia gndt a e road,
inc.; nllcgmo atil tlsC m ~ onc6vd nerd all the rpm enreJ. do mat name
Com t.chomd Imve me opportuniry~, v a Com o que n me r and
mosemvho nave made me allegvdona and men. in a F ding of Yace come back rwth a
defied tesoludon m cimu remote or mrain \Ir. Daly on tnosc Uonrds. tie wns nrtremaly
meda er mo.~lidigofa soluo ands hating re ~ing nim muinpic
boards when only one board .vas refue~ced. His conduct mower bmrcU by nor bam
mfeta~ced, and nn did not believe mat was germaneromcissue at hand. Cammunionu
ablea m~„ m~ a point of mfom,adon rdarmg m me 5laror,' inm,daada~~.
\layar LovevtranJ nomd as die Stamm praeided. tltere~voWd be dine for"\1r. Daly m
and hey ould be give ~ of charges--as me Stain rind. and advuing me
tuber owe basis for usprn ,after nabici vndm opportunity for me
amber m be herd. 'lhu.v.~s wha vas in Deputy Mayor nfillers mo~ion. "[hatwas what
me Com ould do. 'obis m. mcr naL Slr.
Dnly.v of bn' . . ~ `braking env IaavL n r as Com a bus n Ne. ould
he givrn an a~... aond vrd the Commia~ion would t~~vtd [allow me Stamm
v'closciy is-
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Commissioner \filvs asked the Chair, if it wvs not a hcring, vnd iF io not a trial. utrn on
what basis vas dtcComm ngmndnga uspassionmMr. Daly vsd on what ba~s+vashc
beingsuspatded from more~dson one boatd7
hlnyor I.ovestrand stored it was clearlp given in dte modort it.ans Eor muse for nwlfcvsvnce.
{ayor lfiles did not hove a copy of dre Smnm and stated drat iEtlne was the case, did the
Statute pra+ide for suspension from mnitiple boards or only from the board which +vas in
yue hon.
Alayor Loves¢vnd replied from vny board the Commission (eJt he should be suspended.
hlr. Tnylor clvririM that d[is did not eonsvmte v suspension d[is even;ng.
Msyor Lovesmnd poineed oue this+vas only v yore eo hvve tlse resolunon and the
Commission +vas not proclaiming him grlry. 'llte Commission was vodng for tlse
esoludon of remoml ro be on tlse ngenda, on a spe<ivi mudng. 1t that rime afro the
Crnnm nhenrd_Sfr. fhly, ifhe wetted robe heard, the Commssion would voec on 8,e
resolunon.
Uepury Mvyor Miller as Led mr a Point oFOrdu. Commissioner hfiles has spoken to thi..
- 11=h=lieved he was'allowed nvo [Imes by Robun'liules.
A6ro, heCe Od lil~ cd rhvt tlec Commissioner was nor in fm~at.lie
under ood t ~.. It ~ +ahar he saying, he ondove dsis [ype o
b h i3n...:. ~~ gc as a Ciry Commissioner ro all ladies it this
chy who envy volw,~~. ~ ~~. v~,+u,
Coen er Mile a P of Yers nal I'tivrilege -~ ehar being, his mon+anons for
whare+er he said hete+ve<e nave. ,b'lec eo+~lebate under lioburs Rules.
.'stayor luvas¢vnd said tl+nt was nms~s issue.
Deputy Mayor \liller apologized and smod corrected. I-le+vanted it Anown. from his
perspec e, rhar ere.T lndy colon ntl~is city, thatroluv rsfora ¢board, has right
m be thee, bas a dot ro be there free of wry type of<ile comment, any type of dew-wing
c anytype oEanyro whidi dam nshrz thaw rThis behac yard
meet,
any Ciry volunmurorany ludymoluneen, anybodeevrnoe be mndonad, env. Hu motion
.rood.
Mayor Lovestnnd gave several dafinido,u of malfeasance from the la+v dicvonary:
„atoyaro„r~a+~e«,~, rrrro.,ea~, ao,,,oarw, f,n,,,r an „ram aparrv,~ry,,,,~yr,ro~>ro„~d dor,~
aJaa n,vbirbapuron v,~r oar rv do ar dl'. He bolieved ll conduct best described+vhar we
have \talfeuance+vas the gropes word_ R1,at was said+vas ugly, demeaning and
disrespettfui, and c.¢emely.ulgar. 'Lhe manver in which it was said wns confronratlonnl
and thre rning. h+ o bad Aa[ tuba' refused ro and any m
me rings wiA this .the Com nohad aneobligauo ec ~Fst volwt
subjected ro su h m t~Com rings veeded m be~<onduc
f ee asd open esrAvtge of ideaw nota Enmm for fear~There was no curse for the type of
language used
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\ir. Taylor scored Mc Gomm'mmlon neuicd m g' for+vard.viM M:c with the'idea ofsacing it
vmddn ondon such conduct but ceded ro keep,, open mind and hev all Me
e.idence new hr.+nng ns ro tl+o snremuJS madeby the tvo.vimecse~ that They were subject
o beivg que onM by Com .vhae ~Ir. Daly: ro he roll Me and ro
,dar nx a,~~ sngtas ,vhy tl,i, rtea or if Mer
Nyif i~ nkcn of co vlUa nri only t~akc Me
accusnvon tl+orwv mndcand go fonvnrd.r;M Me hea ~g and MCa+maLCa decrs+on.
Uepc° ~cr Aiiller asvd hospoke with Nn. Dan and she doe tr Mu~language
vt1d._ .. vud ~+, public very embarr ivg ro loot+Sl+c ould prefrr
tb t there ^ r 'l 'ak, cv 1 t. the ( an gee \G. Dolt.
picnry oft ~ b;but,.u+t neeusory Matllo~. iJmnic comeber'ore the
W mm+ss+on.
flavor Lorastrind said. no.
\1r. Tayloc said Me Sntum doe. nor spr.:fically tali for robpoanaing any+vimcsscs. She «~s
0 of Me comp6iving parried so Marefote, ir.voold ba mlevanr Co~hambe or Mar
dng. ~s faros her eng m haste this publiriud o +vhate r. if Me Com
~aished rogo forward sv th the heanngn remo+~c nlr. Uny~, Men be certainly had bu~n'gho
under the $nwtc to be bessd.
Deputy \foyor !+iillar sated he had heanl the srory from ev rybody in Char commitree,.viM
Me exception of ono person, and Mey all xsid it rite same+vay. If they all tell Mc
Com er Mar Mis .v Me. mry.b ould so ol+h -hc oc pu~ingiudgmen
y+d certainly cvanred ~Ir~ Daly m spcvk For himself bur, yuite ho:~ tly,'if merybody swg
oFMe.ame page .vould Mat nor be ronclust+er ough .vitltoot Mc _~¢oducnon of _n16.
Dmn+s.
nir_'LVyior said b+vas a Ataacr of Pro IF++M~ inlly heard bim sae ~c
and Me Commission could pmve'ic.. tumoona, Mealleged
.~cnm..ould not neeusarily hatero be mere. trder. vard_
\byor Los'c ands tcd. as be--+{Mc ofprooE it er
ofopin n. bur Mar Me Com nha. d.Juse (ollo+v Me ep~
ne by one :\frcrM ( on h~. tv f++-the
solun itdown call fort ~ i al being
talk d.b ,+t+h. ap cc n., that
\1r. iaplor repliad Mvr if one read Mc Stature, it ®. aviry for Me mcmbr~r to be
bard, ira~sapublicmeevng, anduminly M,~ 'dl r~e the opporcunineo
a:ky ons and \Ir. 1>alp.vo+Jd biro Meo .need by counsel >,rd ro
forth.
Com u\lilnc asked if Cher solut -. vat Mensolunat merely to
xc forth Mc mechanics for ucpcn.+on anJ p 1
~t.+vor I.o mad snt~ Me r roluv s. nd or evmore. b m , may noe be
appro+~ed aker Me Commission hcanl hls ttmry.u
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>mT=ymrbahnned enn wide, cure soinn ~ nt fnan me
mochas ixidur doing mvr. 'the Cam augur r..pando tc
imkingany dnt nmathe sbould or should noe bar •ed~butdiarmer as
svRicin,t hen to go wnolra wits ;, he ring m <onsiderremovitigor „spending him.
VOTE ON MOTION: Roe Ca11 Voce: 4-0-i, with Commissioner
Miler, Commissioner Anderson, Depury Mayor Miller, and Mayor
Lovesvand voting, yes; avd Commissioner Vacca absent.
3. CONSIDER AND VO'1'F. ON RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THG
HISTORIC FRF:SERVATION BOARD TO REMOVE MR. JIM DALV
FROM THE FOUNDER'S DAV COMMITTEE POR CAUSE.
o-laynr IA.eermnd noaJ ne sad prepared me agenda nn = d,cop~ of law mat said mat mode
may appoint may can remove. Toe statute dnriy xtatea mat d,e governing body roved
Depury Mayor Miller moved mar another resolution be drafted
specifying the same !acre, advising Mr. Ualy as io the basis fur his
r m v suspension, antl giving him reasonable novice so that he
may speak ro the issue for iris removal from the Founders' Day
Subco orlon with Fbrida Sra a 112.501, Sern n (2j,
(a), and (b). Sewnded by Corvm,ssioner Andersoo.
Gom er Miles fitit hi~rly inappmprivh for mr odicra vboard
,~imat es fully able[ Takeo 'Ic be Y'by , sing mu pre
r solar and ne of d,e rEC brm~h F,nv.. .narbwrd so desired sm
rem ac~\1r. U=ly,lhrwss surely wiminvmeir pu ~ ~ He 6elicvul me Commission
sending a massage drat would cloud": possioum or nvvinga fi'n hennng for Mr. Ugly.
~Ihn Com sY gave self judici usly wns mis pvmculvr solar
sidere<i ss he bel ever) is noul<i tend to preiudiceany dawn me Commission could rake
in a suh'uquent hearing in diiv paraculaccase
Commiaionn aliles nu'ed a Pmnt of Informadon, a~ that paivcvlar Poundals' Uay
Subco ood, i under me par. of this Cum anJ w=s don
motwyatmebeque of matparumlarcommittee. Therefore, me Commvsion hod no
~unsdicnon in mat matter.
Com er Andeo askeri die ciq~ a may what rignm me Comi n lad eo diet
polity m a abeoinmmee ofd board and/or mmove somebody from n subcommittee of am
board.
replir Subs'e oFhloddv Sntute 112 `" '~morer o/tbir
.oat eoa,d ~~„nvir eF„m ara~~ymmi ad. ltitbr
ofu, )wGy to beo mrGarofolromrlm
'lt"gena,utl,r ~n~on -p[ln~IicunJ ~~yma
=gondait e ould beairquec UCbclicved eheCom ould make
tun endan . cmaet mewna{ingnfine samre.n ..not minE a,c
Comm. ai~hneii mciight mdicxvee.
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\Aembu rmued EuNrer briEt discuss~ano aspcc of drurelan.crorhe rcx of dre
Ghaaerand dse Smmm.
Deputy Mayor Miller moved ~o amend his modov ro brivg forth a
(s~dke the rum "resolmlon to remove) anU add ehe hvguege
mend the Ciry Commissiov consiaer aeklvg the Hisrodc
Preservation BoeN m remove Mr. Dely from the Yonvdus' Day
Subcommnree.
Amended Motion secondetl by Commissionu Anderson.
Deputy eta}or ~4illecmnEd tlreamenderl monon ro cusi x rollrnvr
Deputy Mayor Miller moved rbar a resolution be dman up specifying
Leers sufficient m advise the municipal board members as eo basis for
hk or her val so rbar he may speak rather end that the
Commiss ov oek the }lismric Preaervarlon BoarU ro remove Mr. Daly
from the Founders' Dey Subrommivee in accordance with Florida
Smmre 112.051, Semlons (1), (~, (a) end (b). Secvvded by
Commissioner Anderson.
Deputy \{l~or \diller rvirhdrev his nrse movwv
VOTE ON AMENDED MOTION: By roll call voce, 3-1-t, with
Commissioner Mderson, Deputy Mayor Miller, antl Mayor
I,ovesrmvd vodvg, yea; Gommisslovu Mies voting vo, avd
Commissioner Vacca absent.
4. AI)JOLBN.
'I'hv.Mayor adjourned die meeting or 7J I p.in.
Mal Locesvand. Alayor
{'PI'EST:
Bedin D- Bosvordr, Deputy C'iey Gerk
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LONGWOOD TILE & MARBLE, INC.
Reaiddnfial & ~pmmemial
Drago
nrator
C ly of LOngwaotl
115 Wen Warren Avenue
Longwood, FL 32]50
Dear Mr. Drago;
ay, Apol2B,le rentl
LLendetl Ute Charter Review CommlLLee es a mamba
eued ono of fha worst cases of poor conduct That I have avor seen by a
representative of the Cily of Longwootl.
metl the meeting early.
e adio~m et~cnalPormwe~'oalr mach as oaaa:ive remanm
Bombe aLynelle Dennis. Mrs. Dennis inquirrtl o(Mr. Daly was his remark
antled (p be lrnsulling.M Daly replied In the vifinnatlve. AS the runversalion
Mr. Daly mpvetl around Ne table to an eNemvly Gose proumily fo Mrs. Dennis
ntlaproceetletl to wll hersomelhing sD offensive I ran not wmmit k to print I f
maMS fo be so offensive I infer;eded thvl Mr. Daly should pick on someone his ownhis
se. Mr. Daly moved to within inches of my face end inquiretl if Nat would
be menl replieG that ho one had any right to behave in this manner. Mr. Daly Nen
rtlered me to get out of his face. 5 sing that this was not Boin9 fo M1aPPen, he moved
y. As 1 left the building by file rear door, I paused at the table on the porch to speak
Mr. Creig Ven Hooven end Mr. Daly omeretl me to leave the propehy. As I had es
much nghf to be present of Nis public building as he tlitl. I refusetl.
of tde first time Mr. Daly has acted irtesponsibly towaNS members of Ne
e. Mr. Daly once abmp0y adjourned a meetng and fold me that if I did not like
the walytthings were going lshould quit the mmmiffee. He has an several occasions
efary, Terry Annnrong for not having minutes completatl even though
he is aware that our mmmhtee is y eof M1ermany responsibilih'es.
I feel Net anyone who is unaUle to wnlml himself in a mom dvilizM manner is a poor
e of the Gty vnd has no Uusiness serving on this or any oUer boaN or
on which he may be serving. TM1is Is mm~g action I am urging you to take
and mtloanot requen it lightly. I sk you to inquire o(others and make the detision basetl
e type o! behavioryou, as a commiuion, wish to condone.
hvery IcaA, is unbewming of v boeN member end may even
WNJer on veNal assault, wingh no volunfeershould have,to loleraty.
H. G. rOUfUUrsund
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