CCMtg10-21-85resent. Mayer snerilson
DepMaYOx Goldberg
Gonenissione[ Faulkne[
[ Mye[~n
(xeq [M ing, City Admire' cator
Ccxald Rocman, City Attorney
Donald Ter[y, City Cle[k
Charles Hassler, City LTigineex
Chris Nagle, City Planner
1. Mayor Srterilson called the neeting t order at 9:10 p.m.
Mayor 3rerilson presented a Certificate of Apprecvation to Mc. waiter clerk Eoc h
3. APp[wal of Minutes, 10/]/85 w[k s and 10/14/85 [egula[ ~meti J. Crn~nussioner
Eaulkner azked that the minutes of 10/"!/85sbenwrrected [o indicate that he was absent due
o the death of his Father. Motion by Commissioner eaulkner, seconded by Conmussioner
rmam that the minutes of 30/]/86 and 10/19/05 az amendel be appzoved. Motion carried
by a unanartous roll call mote.
'. 4. PUBLIC HEPRItL, ORDINPN'E NJ. J22 - Lot 3, Nelson's Lake View Heights.
John Wilson, o was present and pee ented a petition m thing 36 name to few[
of the amexation. weMr. Koxmvt xead b3' title and displayed proof of publication. M[.
'. Wilson aid the state Wd giv n perm ssion sell t s grown on the property but Ire
needed the ceguested nitgeto permv saleoof pcoduret grown elsewhere. Cgmniss
asked what p[oblems he had with Seminole County and Mr wilson said heionhe~r
obtained a C-1 special exception to sell vegetables grown on the property, but he needed
C-3 zonity. Gmmissionex Myers asked if Mr. Wilson weld use City we x and M Wilson
said he mould and atso sewer when St became available. Earl eisher said he was
partner of Mr. Wilson and he ask d the Camnv55ion [o M the property, aichacd Hay
of 429 Sake Ru[h Delve spoke in opposition to the C-3 zoninq. He said hisMbare was zones
agricultural and he and his neighbors wanted to keep the property residential. Bay
cad esults of a etin9 held by the Saainole County Bxrd of County G issioners
denying C-3 zoning. Mx. .lack Walton said he had lived in his tame foe 38 years and he waz
opposed to the amexation because he [bought it mould contribute to the flooding problars.
M[. Walton said Lake FNtM1 was higher than ever, due to shainon-Whittle filling a drainage
line which ®ptied into Duck Lake. Walton said the City had author ized [he filling
and said the score pipe runs though M[~ Wilson's pcopeRy. M[. h9lton said there were
laws against filling lakes. Mc. Manning said he had contacted the Department of
nnental C rol in thole County and the County F]agineer regarding the fill which
iherCity Fad nothauthoxized. Mr. Maeviing said the City was wrking to have tl~e pipe line
oFe'ted. Mrs. Janet Giland said she had taken a petition a[ound the neightorhoN in July
1983 protesting the change in ping. Mr. Manning said Seminole County staff pe[somel
wrk ing with SM1amon-Whittle to have the drainage problem c erred.
Myers said the City had xec rued a letter approximately 6 ~ronths agorfran DER stating ithat
Shannon-{Tittle mould be fined 510,000 if they did not rertove the fill fran Duck Lake.
Wilson said the flout )n9 Problems did not have any c - with his proposed
Mrs. Wetety Fay sptke ao ` the, atui and M [e free said ahP
t40 year property andt=_he said shexuv to favor a. 1[het _i.. iexattcn and
permitting M[.~Wilson to developrhi.s property.
Jonn Wilson aaia a omer am rs azonq cR an naa inaioacea a desire t
en= trey. Ray Baia ne wme objaet O weir being aN,exea s wuia~
oontinuea en oachmene o the eaiaencialthmes. Tne city clerk~isea n,ae~cne
al,oala be continued oneu Nw~oer u, 19HS to ~mciae witn me tw a-a
ningn to change the co~[enensive z ing map. Motion by Commissioner _
onded by Co aulkner that the Public H ring n Ordinance ]22 be
conLrnu tl to Novsbe[clle, c19H5. Motron carried by a uwnr,rous ~oll call vote.
5. AE4DING, OImINANCE !A. ]32 - Artendrtent eo Ccnp[eheevsive is^d Use Plan fcon Inw
Density, Residential to Offices, Conure[cial. Requested by VICPIC Investments. Property
nsists of lots 1,2,3,4,29,30, and 31, Black 5, amended plat of Wildtrere and is locet i
n the south side of SR 434 and west o£ Oxford Street. Mc. Korman read by tide only.
on by DepMayor (bldberq, seconded by C[mznissione[ Faulkne[ that Ordinanco NJ. ]32 ne
cepted on first reading and that a public hearing be scheduled for Novertber ii, 1985.
Motron carried by a wan[~rous roll call mote.
6. FIRST FFADING, CImZtY~NCE W. ]33 -rezoning part of lots 1,2,3,4,29,30, and 31, Block
5, Amended Plat of Wildmsre from AlA (Single Family Residential) to C-2 ICOmreccial,
Office). Property r the south side of SR 434 and west of Oxford Street and the
request was submitt H by VICPIC Investmants. Mr. Korman read by title oNy. Motion by
4pMayor Goldberg, ecorded by Camnissionec Faulkner, that Ordinance Na. ]33 be accepted
n first reading and that a public neariry be sch~uled for Nsrember 11, 1985. Motion
carried by a unanvrws roll call vote.
]. Mr. Dick Tickal of VICfIC Investments said that lots 30 and 31 mould provide a 5C
foot buffet area aril green area. Mayor Srterilson asked if any agreertent to that effect
mould constitute contract zonln9. Mr. Kornan suggested that the Cmm,ission rtake the
oning contingent upon fLwl s e plan approval. ce Carino o£ VICIIC investments
said it was nis desire to createranother crown oaks Centern ,`
8. Petition for annexation submitted by Henry Hardy, Jr. and Mary Dell Hardy for the NV
1/4 of Section 8, T wnship 215, Fa~ge 30E located on the East side of Sake Howell Road
adjacent to (Mg Track Pcope[ty on the south. Mc. Chris Nagle said he nx] spoken with the
City Engineer snout the property and had learned that the Property is presently citW f
County Code violations with a fine scheduled to start on 4cenber 9, 1985. Mr. Nagle
suggested that the Conmission delay any consideration of aevlexation of the property until
all legal problems nave been [esolved. n by 4pMayo[ Goldberg, secorclud by
Commissioner Faulkner that the City deny aev~exation request submitt d by Henry and M ry
411 Hardy. Motion carried by a unan[sous roll call mote.
9. FIRST READING, CAUJICR[T_E IA. ]34 -annexation Of property described in Paragraph 0.
Motion by Comrtdssione[ Faulkner, corded by 4pMayor Goldberg that Commission not accept
Ordinance w. ]34 on first readingsand that it be denied with the petition Eo[ aMexacron.
Motcon carried by a unanvrous roll call [rote.
S0. SITE PLAN, PSAZA DQ. SOL WGT®0. I~H SIDE ~ SR 434, EAST SIDE Ck' HARB12 IS(E
WAY. Mr. Nagle described the location of the property and said the Commission had
the s to plan earlier. Nagle said the Lard Plamirg Agency bad [ecommended approeal
of the site plan subject M staff co and City Engineer's approval of hvi~q o
tility e Nagletsaid the laving mould be o water tin
Na rborn9ISle Subdivisionnt M[Mr Nagle [ec mirerded that the Ci[y [squire a trold hornless
agreertent and specify mono mould be responsible for rehiring pavement if rehirs to
water line we required. M[. Nagle asked that therequirement Eor a 10 foot green slLne
buf Eer be waived and that the Commission accept a 6 foot buffers the applicant nod
agreed t a 6 foot m cete block wall. Mc, eHgle said the LPA had asked E `~
to 10' [tees within the 6 foot buffer area. M[. Nagle said the develope[ had agrec+ .o
give a 20 foot wide e t fo[ ehe e ing w r line. Mc. K asked what. problens
wind be required if Ne city was requird to diq up pavame t to make wa r line repaics.-
Mr. Harry Feynolas said nis wngany mould ag[ee to hold the City harmless if they
[ yuired t ut the pavement t repair the line and they mould be ces~nsible fo[ paying
o have the pavem=_nt cepaired~ Phyllis Burnet said she was a esident of Harbor '
Isles and sne asked about the fencemsepa[azinq Hato[ Isles and the shopping ce
Na91e said [here would be a 6 foot fence plus a 30 Foot t very fi feet and n Nagle
aid the teees mould Ge planted o the o side of the wall ee Mrs. Turnex askedMwha[ type
of shops there mould be and Mr. Eeynolde said it is inQOSSible to say at this point
1Uiner asked if there mould to a traffic lignt at the rote[section and Mayor rilson
aid there mould be a lignt at Island Lake and Cbf mould nev r permit othe9r~ light
between Island Lake and Rangeline Road. Mamirg asked howemany stores and M[. Sim
erkel of Plaza Uel Sol said the s Mined SZ,000 square feet with 6,500 feet devoted
to enclosed walkway leaving approximately 43,000 square feet fo[ s erkel
aid he thought there mould be approximately 16 -18 s erkel said i xuld have
enclosed walkway and have all the acenities ofttheAltanvnte Ma11. said his
congany attevpting to make the plaza a first class shog~ing e Motion tH
Conmassione Faulkner s coded by DepMayo[ Coldbe[g that site plan be approved subject to
the [n Mr. Nagle's Settee and subject t the City Attorney's app[oval of the
easemeen~tspand hold Harmless agrearents. ibtion carried by a unanvmus toll call mote.
11. ITE PLAN - 54NI1:lIDO SfAPPING CENeeR. on by Camsissioner faulkenr, seconded by
Cnnenissioner Mye[s that s plan be [ ved fcan table. Motion ra xied by a
roll call mote. M[. Manning said rnpie roof a letter [egarding the a ailability of see
capacity [ran Florida [~sidential Communit' s had been distributed t mmbers of Ne
Crnmi.ission. Mc. Q:a[les Hassle[ said he hadewalkea the site a with M[. Ha[[is and he
said he ruideced the r ea adequate for the site. Mred Iasslec said the site
weld have better drainage wnenndeveloped than at present. M[. Nagle said the applicant
naa agreed to create a new easaaene to permie Mr. Robart crown aceess co nis Wane. Mr.
Nagle uia ne naa talked witn the ciey Attorney abowt vacating the old e t and
ring ne for Brown ac the same tuna. Mr. Praru< Me said Hen ownaa
property southwof the property on savage Court and he asked who wuldsbe cespor:sible foe
cleaning the catch basin and drainage lines M[. Messina said he Had been assured that
Savage mould ask the City to accept the st[eet and be [esinriaible for the drainage
Mcuiverts. Nagle said he thought the construction weld help the problem because the
reet wuldMrbe 80 [cent developed and there mould be less debeis and sand to obst[uct
the culvert. Mc. Roman told Nr. Ns cna that he purchased nis p[opsrty on a private coil
and he suggested that he talk to thesdevelope[. said the road may not nave
been built to city specificatior:s and said the City can e that all problrns would
be solved. Mr. xar:nirg said the people who nave propertysfaci~g the s have the
espor:sibility and he said the City had no responsibility unless the Citytaccetpted Savage
Court. n by OepMayor Coldbe[g, carded by Camnr c Myers that site plan to
ceptea Msubject to all staff reconu:erdations. Motion carried bi a unanvmus roll call
12. PUBLIC PAHt'LCIPATSCN PEftI®:
Hard Linton Bald he wishN to make a Wing the Special
meeting co ing Mc Eryan aid Mr. Bryant wastprote4ing nisrold boss and he said
M[. Hcyantndidnb[each his positio and he was resl»nsible fo[ many of [he p[obleas.
a. M[. Manning said a drainage wrkshop uvula be held on Novaia:er 12, 1985 at 7:00
b. M[. H nning Sara an ordinance xarld be prepared vacating e. N2rren Avenue East of
a 4z~ a..~d vest oe the seato
Mr. nifg said he Had nk with Mr. Wneele[ ok t e Harbor Isie S:bdiv ision .3n
- - s had agreed to split the b of m'ilcim t ay repai xs t the xa
ii es Ito }~ tau water pe¢ n Harbor Isle: ne m was the co of ceE-
Com;ds¢ion to a ceps this offer fmm ,'r Hares.
d. Mrs. Phyllis 1Umer said she w of the first [esiaen[s in labor Isle an
aid fist she had adequate p[essure butnwnen a doable co az'placed the
[ line for the home n t door, her pressure became so low her sprinkler system did n
wxk. Mrs. 1Lrne[ said sne hart called the a Departrtznt [ yuestin9 a of the water
pre e Eor the hydrant, she Baia the cite Oepaxtment checked the pressure and it ./a.,
o. kssu
ing requested that the City Commission wnside[ a e plan su4nitted by
We[head Nor located on the West side of He~mett Dive. Mamicg said due to paor
s [he site had not been reviewed and sch Ruled on the agenda whim ne taok
esponsibil ity fo[. Nagle bciefed the Gmmdssion on the pcop>sed s e and said the
p[oposed [ on Poed waz adequate fo[ the building but he recomnendedx[hat the pond tr:
enlarged toeprwide fo[ future expa~uio azsler said he had nevie,md the retention
calculations a~ said they were now correct. 1"ne Crnnussion took a five minute rscess to
permit the mmbers of the Cgmidssion to cwiew the site plan. Motion M Camnissiour'
Faulkner secorded by DepMayor Goldbe[9 that site plan be appxwed subject to sCaf1
and subject t onmendations. Motion ca tied by a roll call
voce. ntMr. azuce Sailinger thanked Chc is, the City Engineer and the City Conm:issron.
f. M[. Manning said the Police Cepaxbrent mould again nave a Haunted house
10/31/&5 for Halloween and he said he expected 2,000 visi[ois. Mc. Manning said he Had
earlier reruested [o t»? absent on 10/23/05, 10/24/05 and 10/25/85. He said he mould like
to w[k those days and be absent o Novertber 1st, 4tH and 5th and the Carmission approved
and said that Nnaid-aerry mould serve asAtting City t>mninistrator >n Mr. Mannin3'u
absence.
14. MAyOA AND COM4ISSIDHER'G HEPJRPG:
Conmissione[ Myers asked if a ne Eoot setback fox used tax Sots was legal and
Ko[man said yes. Camrissiorec Myers asked if it was legal to nave a $5.00 cap o utility
for residential pcopexty and a 510.00 cap o utility rates foe comae cial pxope[ty.
tesROxnan said Nngwo d's ordinance does disc[indna but be said Cne Flo[ida Statutes
permit disc[inti[ation and cited an exanQle of Cit es exa~yting the Eirst 500 RW for
esidential ustamrs. Mr. suggested that the City ordinance M cha~yyed fox
purposes of cbo[rowing ney.KO 1fie ce DiraYOr was requested t do turfy [o
aeterndne Mw aany RW boas of electricity could t>e exengitei to produce similar income.
Myers suggested that the City prepare signs for Garage Sales and
them to personsegroldi+g garage sales. Mr. Trery suggested pssing o a Flier withxeach
garage sale permit requesting the applicants no o post signs on telephone o[ light poles
and to rertove signs when garage sales are wex.
Dep^tayor Wldbe[g said M[ Joe Dinkowitz of Colambus Harbor had requested that the
City charge for w s for three e s Eor irrigation. DepMayor Cnldberg
said mot Binkowitz wula[biingri a sketch where the ne desired. Naming
aid he did not know Wwt wuldnreruire irrigation on thessouth Grant Street entrap
near the nn[sinq home aw ene mtrmce oft Marvin xwenne. ra 1,
cn,mri¢¢ioner Nr,:ann saia ¢ne has aiscaasea the pos¢ibility of obcaini[:q kne Cnmey
Mealth Clinic Building North of City Hatl and Cgimiissionei Sand[a Glenn has suggested the
City ndgnt offe[ the 3.]5 acres on [he Lss;gwocd/take Mary Foad in exchange. Mayor
smerilson said the city had p[omised that the proceeds flan the sale of this p[ope[ty
xuld be used to puechase additional parks and recreation property.
Mr. rv~ing asked the Comnission C resider changing the t for the City
Co~mrtission~me [ings from Ne 2n 1, 3rd and possible 4tn Mondays to line 1st, 3rd and
possible 4th Fbnrlays. aMing said such a change would give the staff additional [
to process informationMforMtne Commission and he saidi mould helplevel out the agenda
loads for each meeting. was the co of the Comission to autM[ize preparation
of an ordinance establishirgtthe recommendedsschcdule.
Conmussione[ Faulkne[ asked who is responsible for pe[EOrndng the ETergy Performance
Calculations and Mr. MaMing saia the B.nilainy ofticiaz ~ real~~ible..:
Mayor sreruson sated enac ne naa receivaa a lette[ frm,: Beeonsr,ire e,naiwis'
rnirg a drainage problee and M Manning said the letter could to given to the City
Ergih EOr- nsideration with~the m15 r-drainageplan. Mayor Srterilson said~he Tad
eceived'a let[efran Mr: -Bavid~ Y.- Scott, Principal-of th'e Longxmd Elementary School
[Wanking -the Cityfor mnstruttinq a sidewalk':in--front-of a driveway fox [he. childrenaexl
also thankfng'Egt': 1bm Jackson,'J[ fd[ making .[his recameidation. Mayor'9rerilsonasked
the newspaper cepocte[s for advance publicity concerning the chcistmas ea[ade schedule for
Decertber ]. 1985.
15. The Conmdssion adjourned at 11:15 p.m.
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