CCMtg06-25-84CITY NhsRSSIOM
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PresenC: Mayor Grant
UepPayor tlitchell .lore 25, 1984
r Loxsann
commissioner 9rerilson
David Chacey, Giry Ad~us¢acor
FraNc Kruppenbacher, City Attorney
Ibnald Terry, City Clexk
Absent. Cwn¢ssroner Myers
1. Mayor Gtmit called the meeting to order at 1:?U p.m. Imocacion Followed by Pledge of
Allegiance eo the United States Flag.
2. Approval o£ l1inuees, 6/18/84 Regular Fleecing. Tbtion by Gximissioner arerilson, s corded
by PepMayor Plicchell that minutes of 6/18/84 Regular Pieeting be approved as sulsriteed.e Pbeian
carried by voice vote.
3. Mayor Grant amc~s~ced chat Children Agai>ut Deadbeae Dads (C.A.D.D.) ~wuld hold a meeting
rn the City Cmmisaion Ghmmbexs on Fridny, dune 29, 19E4 ae ]:00 n.m. Mayor Grant said the
piapose of the organisation was to ourage fathers to provide support Far [heir children.
Mayor Graae said Fe tha~ght the organizaercm wzs wvrchwhile and he isged the citizens o£
Ioc~.ood co acted he meeting.
4. Siee Pls -Fast lake Village Subdivision. location -vacant land lr.ng between East take
Street and Fisse Place East. Developer: Florida F; 'ty <rnnp, Inc. Mr. Chacey described
the location of fhe property. Fk. Chacey said wacer was available eo the area, said the azea
would a septic t ks, said ehe Fire Departvenc Lou:id waxer Lines s isEactory far f
protection mid he said the site was oropexly zoned. Fh. Russell. Davis, Civil Engineer,ewa
r.~ presane xo represent the appliczne. Mrs. Sanee Davis asked abort the location of the pzoperty
ad Fr. Cnacey advised her. Nk. rem Brandenberg astced abort the size of the cYaellings and
Yr. Chacey said they could be built co at least R-1 standards. Pks. Sanee Davis said 14th
e should be paved and said ehe recent gading done by the City was a poor job and had
leftenro holes. Mayor Gran aid a ecavpe was made t people the and s
if they rmre willing eo assist in theapaving of 14eh st~eecnbut no one was willing co as
Camdssioner loxaa~m asked Mr. Russell Darts i£ his client was Frep.red to pave West lakeise
Street mcd Mr. Davis said it s their plans to stabilize the st onmended by the
City Stott. G issioner S_..rilson asked if the stabilizing ldabe ea~porary and Mr. Chacey
eaid ie should be considered pexms;ene. Depr~yor Mitchell said it should be done on a
taporary basis ~scil the east side of ehe road was dedicated s chat the oad could be
built to City aPecifications. Gmmissioner lor-vsa asked why jiat one street should be
stabilized and Fk. Chacey said First Place ens already stabilized. CcmHssionar Strerilson
asked alaut futue plans for paving 14th Street and making ocher required inQrovasencs in
Pk. Chacey said the rewesced use cns not lazge enough [o require [he developez to
doeby himself and said a substantial development was reyuired. He said chat when the
property was developed co the West, al.l property ocm rs would be assessed co cover expenses.
UepMayor Mitchell said Fu thrn~ghe tertporary repairs should be made wrath lime rock. Mr.
Chacey said the developer would use 'wash out" [ cabilize West lake Street. Mr. Chacey
said future plans mould require ecual e~ basid upon acreage. Cmmissioner [anratm
said h concern was thae Hie City noxmalLy requited Hie developer to pave the street and
she asked why the s .veld oe~.ly be s[abiti.zed. Ms. LR+acey said the sT - wide.
enough to pave. DepNayorcNSCChe11 asked wfio owned property sad Ne. Chaceyrsaid Ns. nROnald
Davis end P1'. Sabbados wined th or~+.j Drily. Mr. Glefm Arbeck said Pm lived on Znd Place
and he said the iaad.Py. of the str is had cake. mvay the stabi].iz and lorered the level
o£ the see is Mayor Gant said the Cicy had been having problans with hat azea. Fayor
Grmrc saideehe riry could cot deveLOp a street i£ the easenenc was only 25 Eeec wide ad he
aid he etrnght West take Street should be more stun stabilized. Deptlayor Nutchell and
Ccemussioi'ier Innreem aid they agreed. Mayor Grant said he had talked with Mr. Sabbados
mid he said he tad nosplans t sell at present. He said Chat sere mould have eo donate the
Land Co make the scree[ ehe proper width. rlr. Arbeck stated Flat. The Virgil Brothers were
sing a building lot to gain access eo the back of [heir property and he asked if Chey
re pemdt[ed [o open a oad on a building loc. Mayor Cram said the Cicy cwldn't keep
a person o£f his property= Mr. Fred Itieter said he Sived on FirsC Place and he was happy
e the s e plan. ile said no grader had done any wrk on the s ee he lived in the 1
paseethree years and he said he covered the streee with pine needlesTa He said [he
property was graded eoday. Mr. Ritter asked Cbat the City cut ehe wEeds and spray for
~rosquitoes as [hey used [o do and M asked chat scare of the benefits ehe citizen used
ve be restored. Mrs. Janet Davin described [he pmblaa ar~d said ehe water
washing loose sand in o the streets which make driving difficult. Tfr. Davis said Znd
Place had been a hard road will the City replaced the water 1ix~e in ehe center of the
road and he said the. road was never put back in the sane colition. Mayor Gtmit said
[ktat wan n ssary so [hae ehe water L'in Quid be Looped ae langwacd tli11s Road.
Dep ayor Mitchell, suggested that the City pave 12st Street North up to Firs[ Place and
[hae Fuuxeeerc~eh Sireec be paved azid he said the developer stwuld be reyut ed to pave
his half of tresc Lake Street. Mr. Chacey said he ihougJit people did not want the sc
paved and Carmissioner Snerilson said people wanted an equalization of paving expmseset
Mr. Chacey said it mould not be fair if the property ocmers in back diAi't pay their
share. Crnmdssioner Smerilson said ie had been the policy of the City to tar developers
for [heir i~act on the City. Mr. Chacey said he ageed and said the last builder Fad
placed mmey in escrow w.til Overstreet was paved. layor G2ant said it was difficult
mro years in advance. Mr. Glen Atbeck asked thae 14th Streee be paved
est~ said he owned property with Cuo duplexes adhe v5 swilling co pay. Mr. Arbecl<
azked how the costs crnild be disiribuced and Mayor GYane said ehe City world pay 10
percent of [he costs hue said he di~'t believe the property camera on 14th Street
should pay the coral costs. Mr. Russell Davis, Fhgineex, said his clients were never
apposed to paying their share of paving 14th Street. }k said their plan eo seablize
West lake Street was an effort co hold costs dawn and keep prices reasonable. DepMayor
Ndechell said he did not see the difference becwem the people paying now or later whm
ssed. Cwmi.ssioner Iornvam asked if the property owrars to the Wesc would do„aee
land for the st and N . Sabbados said he would not. clayor Gxanc said tttac Ronald '1~
Davis did not wanttco give any lazed either. Mayor Gran[ said he [hough[ that every
person who builds a house on ehe psoperry in the back should pay a share. Cfr. Cnacey
said inpact fees vuld help £or paving and said he thoughe it was unfair £or 14th
Streee property oomexs co pay for paving of 14th Streee. Mayor Grane said the large
land owners sMUld pay something tward paving 14eh Streee. Mes. Ronald Davis said they
bad bean wable to sell their property because 14th Street was weaved. Bne said Chat
developers were now considering erring in off Iangwood Hi11s Road. Mayor Gran[ suggested
that plan be Cabled for further study. Camdssioner 9rerilson asked'wt~en the impact fees
would becare effective and Mr. C'dacey said the public hearing would be bold on Svly 9, 1934.
Mr. Chacey said i~act fees could not be charged if the Cicy approved the Site Plan until
the enaceing ordinance was adopted. Mr. I(xuppmbacher sa'd he did not believe impact fees
could be cttarged until the ordinance was gdopted. lbeionrby Cartmssion iuma~m, s corded
by Gmnissionu Snerilson that Site Plan for Easc Iake Village Subdivision be tabled far
fuceher study. Moeirm led by a wmrumus roll call voce.
5. F.i.rst Reading, Ordu~az~ce No. 63], amending future land use Plan by cba~ging Wesc 200
fee[ of the Fast 1,022 feet of lnc 38: Replae of Wese Wildmare, PB b, Pg 105 from
eredicvn density resideneial to rcral, office. ta. t'svppenbacher read by title only.
Mr. Chacey described locaeion of the property. motion by Camussioner 9rerilsnn, ded
by DePMayor Mitchell that Ordinance No. 63] be passed on first reading and chat a public
hearing be scheduled for July 16, 1984. Fbtion carried by a ~sanimns roll call vote.
6. First Reading, Ordinm~ce No. 638, anending ca~rehensive zo~ilng ordinance by changing
propere described in paragraph 6 above fran R-3 ([residential - Multi-FaN.ty) eo
C-2 (COnmercial - OFfice). Mr. Kruppenbacber read by title only. Mr. Cttacey said it .,
s the sam praparry Bated in Ordinance No. 63]. Nneion by Covnussiwer 5rerilson,
onned by Cwvdssioner lunrzvin, that Ordinance P'rJ. 638 be approved on first reading
and tFur a public hearing be scheduled for July 16, 1984. Notion carried by a wmrnroua
roll call vole.
]. Cry Adrdnistracer a Report:
Pt. Cnacey briefed the Cmmission on the changes rmde in the Rangeline rood
RY~gineering PLans. C ..issicner 9rerilsrn suggested that the sidewalics frcm 4bodgate
co Pdghlaz~d I+ills be kept as Ear back fran ehe road as possible and still sa e ehe
and ttat a crosswalk be painted aaoss Rsmgeline P.oad at the Oewnshire Evtxlivision
for ehe school ctuldren. hacion by Cavnissioner 9nerilson, s corded by Cemdss.i.oner
Inn~wm that engineering plans for i.nq~rwenents co Rar~geline Road be approved subjece
sideosalks Errn: Wuodgate eo ttighland Foils he:.ng placed as far East as possible fran
Rangeline Road and thae a walk be painted across Rangeline Rnad aC the ~won-
shire SLbdivision. tMtionccarried by a waniirous roll call wee.
b. Ts. Chacey briefed ehe Gs~mdssion on ehe final to made to deten~dne if there
any seepage £rcm the Co1wWs Ilazbour Sewer Plant in otehe pond in Cn1~s ttazbo,s.
tYS Chncey said flourscent dye hatl been placed in the s r plan on pond
and after a itm week period, no dye tad been identifiable in thetpond~mrCnlumbus Hazbvs.
Tfr. aacey said ehe Ciry had purchased cw onth 6 ae and F.e said they
mould be put in operation on Tuesday to supply additional oxygenseo ehe pond. He said
en Eoot farce would be constructed co eltmiru ,aiy view of the sever plant by ehe
hanewmers. !Y. Mark Aspinwall asked i£ the aerators would be nm all the time and
Mr. CTUCey said they mould. Na. Aspinwall said good progress was being made but he
med chat the problen mighe z r later on. Mr. Chacey said additional to s
would beeconducted eo decemm~e hw nuaiencs got in o tM pond. Mr. Aspinwall said st
that t4. Sim 4)illiams, the take Gxcor, said the problem was clue there was no way to
prove [hat tbexe wasn't seepage over a long period of time. Na. Chacey said the Ciry
would w tch the lake cazefully az~d try c era[ Che i~mve•TenCS < coned.
DepMayor Mitchell said he believed part. ofrniS,e problen was too many Eish~in the pond
and ehe residents objecting to persons fishing in ehe pond. Mr. Aspinwall said he
did rot believe the fish should be eaea. Mayor (Pant said only rough fish such as
carp and suckers were in the pond now. Mr. Aspinwall said ehe ducks were also con-
eing the pond and Cmmissioner ~rilson said it was difficule eo gee rid of
ducks. Camdss r Wmvan asked if the hmcame ,rod the pa,d we isfied
wick what the Cityehad done and Mr. Rick Rebel saidsit had only been cweweeks azid saitl
early to tell. Ne asked chore the crews mocking azound the sewer plane be
askedanot m scaeter liteer azo,md while they were xorking. He saitl it was an eyesore.
Mr. Chacey briefed the Gmnission on a request frwa Eevinole ma,Cy fox a
20 foot utility easemnt on the Northern bowdary of the Ciry's property on the
Iongroad/I. Fe Cary Road. Mr. Qacey said he trrought the request was reasmiable.
Mayor Grant said he had no objection to graneing the eascamnt but he suggested that
ehe Ciey be provided tto free taps a are funn-e evse when needed. hbtion by
Cmndssioner I.nnnvm, s corded by oep~yor Litchell tht a 10 foot vti Lity easerent
be granted eo Saunole Cn,mty on the Norehem brnsdary of the City property an
iorVecrood/Sake Nary Road subject to the granting of two free caps to ehe Ciry of lash d
for possible fume use. Notion carried by a warrirrous roll call mote. -
d. Mr. Cnacev said he was required to soh ut his budgee proposal co the Cwmdssion
o~NOni~yl ~'1mPN~but sazn aace this was a Swday, he would distribute on [•tiday EVerdng
8. Mayor and Cann'issioners' Repores:
Mayor Crane azmocmced that Cmmissioner Myers was absent on vacatvon.
Mayor Grants red that ehe mmibers of the Gmmission had r ved a letter
ming ehe paving of Iake ISnn Raad and Fe asked if the manliers desired Gmmissioner
Rnbere Sttssm to care v,d brief than on this project. Cmmi.ssioner 9rexi.lson said he
would also like eo ask Camd.ssioner Sturm above a traffic signal Eor the Longwood Ftills/
E. E. Williamvon Foad in s The Camussion agreed chat [My did wish Can~d.ssioner
Stuns co be presene at chernex[ meeting on July 9, 19g4.
Grnmissioner 9rerilson said he objected to the commnts co ained in the
~arJOM Garbage Cmipany leeeer and said maybe a second poll ofnthe citizen s
required. Coamissioner 5 rilson said iF ocher cwQaSes felt like DaNotm,~
the garbage franchise should be cancelled nou. Mr. Chacey asked the Cmmission
until the bids were received before raking any judp.,~renc. Mayor L4ant said
he thought a r~v~ority of the people did roc wan[ ehe ~zrbage franchise mid he said
ne eroulu voce when he ~:aeeer care up. Lwnwssion la~rmar~n said she agreed.
Depl~ayor NSechell asked about the drainage problan on SR 434 in front of
ehe PETlOIL Staeion, hrc. Cnacey said the State Departlrent of 1Yansportation had
been coneaceed ewrce about the problem.
Mayor Grant said Mr. George Dobbs, AArdnistraror of the West lake Hospital had
united one of the City C 'ssioners to on the hoard of 1lvstees and the
Camdssion agreed eo consider possible appoin6'wnts and aake a decision at the last
neeeing in Su1y.
9. The Crnmission adjcumed ac 8:45 p.m
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