CCMtg03-22-82LONG1JD00 CIPY COMMISSION
March 22, 1962
Present: Mayor Lonnann
Commissioner Grant
Comni ssi oner Us kart
Commissioner O'Leary
Conmi ssi oner Pappas
Marvin Rooks, City Attorney
David D. CM1acey, Li ty Administrator
Geri Zambri, Secretary
Absent: Donald Terry, City Clerk
1. Mayor Lofinann called the meeti ny to order. Invocation followed by Pledge of
Allegiance.
2. Approval of IAi notes, 3/15/82 Regular Meeting. Notion by Commissioner Pappas,
cond by Coimni ssi oner O'Leary to approve minutes of 3/15/82 as wrf tten. MOt'i on
carried by unanimous roll call vote.
3. Res Olu ti On No. 469 - Setting Time and P1 ace for Equal iza ti on Board for Paving of
Orange Avenue From Grant Street to County Road 42J. Mr. Rooks read by Ti t1e and stated
that the date of Equali xati on board would be April 26, 1982 at J:00 P.M. at City Hall,
1]5 W. Warren Avenue and stated that written notice of said meeting would be sent to
an property ow wnose na ana aearesaes a e shown on Assessment rptts and tnat
notice would benpu bli shed tlurt ng week o4 April 12 and April 19, 1982.
4. Motion to adopt Resolution No. 4fi9 by Commi ssf oner US kart, second by Commissioner
Pappas. Motion carried by unanrmous roll call vote.
5. Ordinance No. 548 - Adopting Land Use Map Element of Longwood's Comprenensi ve
Plan (First Reading). Mr. Rooks read by title only. Mr. Rooks s tad that on 9i na lly
the City planned to adapt Land Use MaD Element by Resolution, buttin readi nq Statutes
eali zed that a sol uti On is of a temporary nature where an ordinance is a permanent
official act and ,etherefore, re amnended that the Land Use Map Element be adopted by
ordinance. He stated there would also be a public hearing.
6. Commissioner Us kart ques Yl Oned how the changes would Sit in t1r. ROOks stated that
copies of all changes to the plan would be attached to the Ordinance, as well as the
map. He stated [hat changes could still be made and ordinance could be amended at
any stage.
). Comni ssi oner Us kart stated i regards to Oavis property changing from A-lA to R-2,
that perhaps it should have beennkept R-lA as there a many large type homes with
reage in that ar Mr. Grant stated that the Da vi seproperty was not legally depicted
properly on the Land Use El erne nt Map. 11r. Chacey said it would be put on properly.
8. Ftayor Lormann stated that this w only the First Reading of the Drdi nonce and at
the Public Hearing it would be open far discussion.
9. Commi ssi oner Pa ppas as ketl if we had determined if i s 5% o Mr. Rooks said
5t was his unde rstandi ng that if this Land Use Map is passed, it will rbe less than 5%
of the land and the City would have to notify each land owner when the administrative
rezoning is done.
10. Cmmni ssi oner Grant said he would file a Conflict of Interest form as his property
nc 1uded in the Land Use Element. Motion by Lomini ssi oner bran t, s and by
Lommi ssi oner Pap Pas to adopt Ordi nonce No. 548 on First Reatli ng. Public Hearing set for
APril 12, 1982.
11. Final Plat - Condo Project For Dick Vli ll iams, VI'il dme re Patio Nanes - Location:
200 feet e of cR 4Z] between Overstreet Avenue and Wi ldmere Avenue. Mr. Dick
411111 ams, Developer, and Mr. Don Pfl ueger, Engineer, present. Mr. Chacey presen tad
the site plan stating iC w s properly z Wed, City Engineer's r ort indicates tlrai Wage
ould take c of o re tendon, two fire hydrants shown would be adequate,
t fl ootl prone, Idi ldmere Avenue paved, Overstreet Avenue unpa vetl, and that
Overstreet i not yet s[a half led. Mayor Lonnann goes ti onetl if there sass an entrance
from both Overstreet and Wi ldme re to project. Mr. Chacey said yes.
12. Co~ii ssi ~~er Pappas questioned if Overstreet Avenue would be paved. Nr. kli ll iams
staked that at the LPA meeting for [he Prellmi na ry Plat he stated he would participate
the pavi nD of Overstreet o a pro rata basis. He sta tetl that the m m traffic
impact at o e time from this project, the 8 u s fronting on Overstreet Avenue,
ould be l6n[ At that paint, he stated her tlitl not feel a pa vi n9 project w
anted, butrwhen other land develops along Overstreet Avenue, it would w an[
pavi n9. Mr. Willi aiw stated he would be wilting to put m nay i
for the future when traffic w ants pavf ng. Mr. Wil li ao statednthere would betno
ss through the project £ranrone street to the other; each lot would have
individual access.
13. Lonmi ssi oner Pappas asked Mr. Williams if he would be willing to deposit a
ow for pavi nq. Nr. Williams replied yes. Mayor Lormann questioned if he would
only construct on Wi ldme re no Mr. IJil Hams replied that one building will be
constructed first and, if market dictates so, he will continue to build.
14. Lomni ssf oner Uskert said he had driven over Overstreet Avenue and that it
very sandy and needed sane type of sta bi li Ei ng ev n if it is not bl ack topped no
Mr. Vli lli ams suggested that when he pulled the building permits for Overstreet Avenue,
he would put down swne clay and stabilize Overstreet at that time.
15. Mr. Rooks asked Mr. Williams if he had discussed the terms of an rnnge-
ment with anyone in the City and Mr. IJil Hams replied that he would beegl adwtor
discuss it. Mayor Lormann questioned amount of money. Mr. Williams stated he had
agreed to about $2,500 when he talked to LPA. Comm r O'Leary stated w should
figure on today's prices. Lomni ssi oner Uskert sa idl thatnwould be unfair to pot that
much money in Lommf ssi oner O'Leary said it would be more expensive to pave
at a later Oatesandwhe df dn'C think we should take a mat deposit. Mr. Chacey
said, at totlays rates, Mr. William's share of the pavmngs ~OUld be spout 33,600.
I6. Mr. Rooks r ended getting the broad terms set. Perhaps ri flan agreement
with Mr. Wi l li ams c that money will be held in ow fora certai naan t of time.
Lommt ss Toner O'Leary asked if ti an be set and then rene9oti atetl? uMayor Lo rmann
said that perhaps the $3,600 would not he enough when the time came to pave, btayor
Lormann was told that this woulA be his contribution towards the paving and when other
people ar ssed for the paving, Mr. Williams would be asked to pick up his share
as the deve1 Doer,
1]. Co~ii ssi oner Pappas asked when building would c Mr. 41i1li ams said he
will s art to build irwnedi ately upon final P1 at bei n9 a cepted by City. commissioner
O'Leary questioned if Mr. Williams put up money, will the City be entitled to take
oney i£ they do not pave Overstreet. Mr. ftuoks said he would have to look carefully
o how agreement is drafted and that the noney should be tied to the improvement
ccepted for. Mr. Rooks stated that the money could s i there forever if
the road i r paved. 11r. Grant said he felt the property between the Williams
property and nLR42] would be developed. Mr. Rooks r ended that he work out a
agreement with Mr. wi ll iams. Grant said he fel ti hemdid n ant to pass 5
plan without a agreement already deci tled upon. Grant said he could not under-
stand why a e limit M1ad to be stated. Mr. Rooks said it was ino e practical and
l egal to seT [r me and limits.
lb. Mayor Loramnn s d there w e drainage problems on Overstreet and Land Pl asst nq
Agency's intention eras £or street to be stabilized and that it should solve problems.
19. 11r. Oaves objected to 95-45-10 paving a ent saying i unfair Lo other
people a to c mit them to a paving agreement. I1r. Rooks said tM1 at the agreement
in a
with Mr. Wf lliams will skate that no represen Ca ti on of other people rega Ming paving
was made and that no percentage would be stated.
20. Mr. Simpson stated he also objected. He stated he felt Mr. Williams should be
sect entire amount and then be allowed to coup a percentage of his contribution
Bother builders crvn and ar ssetl their percentage e£ paving. Mr. Jim Ross
aid he did and did nuts ag ree wi thaNre Simpson, because if individual builders c
and built houses, they would not be as ss ed for pa vi nq. Ne also sta tetl tha tathe
drainage should flow to 421 because Overstreet floods badly duri nq a storm. Mr.
lJil liams again stated that there would be no water rp ni ng q£f of his project and that
swales on proPe riy will contain all water on propertyn
21. Mr. Grant questioned re calculations. r. Pfl ueger stated it was based on
25 year 24-hour storm which isn thenC ity's requirement for storm water.
22. Mr. C,rant stated he wa not against an oust and trusted the Attorney's
ability, but said M1e did not see why we needetlcaoti mecl imi t. Mr. Rooks stated he
ould draft a agreement without a time limit. Mr. Pappas su9ges Ted a ag re ent be
drafted that Lanmi ssi on could look aY, if Mr, lJil li ams ks in cord with the 53,600.
Mr. Grant asked if there wa any other way it could be workedaout. Mr. Lhacey cited
the example of paying for the entire pavi n9 and the 60% re very when other developers
build with a 10 year limit on very. Mr. O'Leary stated he felt the es un t.
ould be an all right sot uti ~~ra nd stated that it was a ci [y street not part ofaac
development and pavi n9 should not be forced at this time. He said an aunt
with a open-end time limit would be a good idea. Ne stated that if Mrsc41111i ams
a greeds ton fight, that Commission could accept site plan based on {act that he is
willing to put the money into an escrow. Mr. Rooks said with no time ltmi t, it would
be broad a ougM1.
23. Motion by Lonmi ssi oner Us kert to approve the Site Plan for Wildmere Patio Homes
and accept Mr. Williams $3,600 with an open end to be used sol ey for purpose of
pav inq Overstreet Avenue. Mr. Williams stated he agreed.
24. Conmi ssi oner Pappas stated City needed letter from Mr. Williams with his signature
to be binding and for the record, Mr. Rooks said he will have proper agreement and
letter from Mr. Williams at next meeting.
25. Commissioner O'Leary said he would like to state the motion tli fferentl y. Com-
mfss r Os kert withtl rew M1is motion. Motion by Ccmmi ssi oner O'Lea ry, s and by
Canm issioner Pappas, Co accept Che Site Plan For the Condo Project for pt ck Wil lieols,
Wi ltlmere Patio Homes, along with a signed agreement being e erect into between the
City of Longwood end Mr. Williams for Mr. Idi lli ams to deposiC 53,600 in
wi tM1 a open-end agreement and with Mr. Williams a ceptance of this written
ag ~eement on cord. Motion ca ri ed by a roll call vote. Mr. Grant
questioned whether this was a contract antluMrnl ROOks advised it was not a contract
Mr. Chac ey said the bids should be opened tomorrow rega rdi ny the CraF£ic li yht on
42] and Church Avenue, and Thai the light should be i tal led i onths. Ne
asked if perhaps the City should w culate the traffic asothe ligM1t w
being installed s r than expected? tcons ens us of Lommissi on was to wait til la the
l fight was snstalledne
. Chacey said he had been at a Water Conservation Workshop and w s told that
by a ling water r ictors, a uch as 40,000 gallons of ~a r per yea racould be
avetl per farm tyPS arerage of 3 in family. Ne asked that Cowmission 9i ve so
thought as to how the cs ould be co nced to us res tri cto rs, aeitl the
vi ngs o water bill wouldebe about 524 anyear and about 5200 per yearHOns power for
hot Ovate rn He said a idea w eeded to sell the people o ing
res t ri ctors. He sat dntheoCi tyvof Lake Mary was selling the kits and allowing the
residents to paY $'t per month for Lhe kit for 6 months.
Mr. Chacey said Oept. of Public Works Ova asking perfni ssi on to place "No
Swimming" signs on Lake Klayman. Said there had been swim parties on lake and people
had Lorn down Lf ty signs and threw c rate posts in lake. puesti on w again r setl
as to o~ ers hip of lake. Lononi ssi on decided to make no decision concerning "NO a
Swi mmi n9n signs.
Mr. Lha cey said the Li ty had r ved complaints about w ec kers being parked in
sidential a He stated tha teif the w eckers w e to be pa rketl a their
bus s locati onain the e ing s, it would add a additional 30 m nu tes to their
ring a call wXi ch coutdnca ne to di en He added that if they did not
adhere to the violati on cited, theyswould be referred to the Codes Enforcement
Board. He thought commission might want to be aw o{ this complaint due to [he
safety factor. 11r. Chacey stated that our Ordinance states that 19 ton vebi cles
re prohibited i esi dential areas. comnissi on's consensus was that the Ordinance
must be adhered for
Mr. Chacey asked far a Ting to hear Budget re and the proposal for the
balance of the Li ty Nall re ovation. Meeting was setvfor April 15, 1982, at 2:00 P,M
n Lomni ssi on Chambers. Mrn Chacey al so stated that he will be on acati on next
week. Comnissi ~~er Pappas asked who would be acti n9 City Administrator in his
absence. Mr. Chacey stated, Nr. Terry, City C1 ark. Motion by Lomni ssi ~~er Pappas,
cond by Conant ssi ~~er Us kart to appoint Donald Terry as Acting City Administrator
during Mr. Lhacey's absence. Motion ca rrf ed by a unanimous roll call vote.
26. City Attorney's Report:
Mr. Rooks said he was still look1 ng into the drat nege problem in Sleepy Hollow
area and should have the information by next Commission mee ing.
2J. Mayor and Co
C.ommissi ~~er Us kart asked when the mosquito spraying would begin. Mr. Lh acey
aid he had r ce~ved the first complaint Cotlay and he would begin preparation
,mmeai atety. e
Mayor Lormann read a letter addressed to Mr. Lhacey co mending the prompt action
of the Public Works Department in cleani nq a city easement yin front of property on
East Lake and .less up.
28. Meeting adjourned at 9:00 P.M
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