CCMtg02-09-81~ Lmg,.md city G mnission
Febxuary 9, 1961
11re Iong..cvd (ity Crnniissiw Mla its regular rteeting t ].30 p. m.
Present Mayor Hepp
Cmnussionet Grant
Ccmrtissioner Io
C<amussioner O'Ieary
ner Uskert
m~vraaa,acey, city Armuz.. or
rn r tom. city ntrnroeyrat
ronald RErry, City Clesk
tNyor Nepp called [he ~reetirg to order. Inwcataon fo11o. d by pledge of all
1. lfayor Hip Presented a pla
of tfie Song~.ood Fire R+~rfm~n
InngxcW Fire Ntatron Nw4xr 0
2. Approval of Minutes - 1/26/81 R'~9ulaz Meeting, 1/29/61 Fbrkshop on Zorung Advisory
Gxnnittee's ~mmmrWations, 1/30/81 4brkshop on Precious tYtals Ordinance, and 2/6/81
Wrkshop on Zwiug Advisory Cannittce's A me'dations, on b/ Cartnissiorrtr O'Ieary,
aecnnaea ~ urawasioner uskert n,at azl mrnnr~ be approved s snm~it a. Motion r.>=rim
by unanvmus roll call mote.
3. Public tHarirq, Ordinanre No. 512, Pmhibiting Hie use of industrial waste and land
fill within City of Songxmd, Florida. F4. Rwks read by title mly, stating that this
as the red option of an mergency ordinance on sear subject. NaYOr Nepp opensd the
Public (Haring. 'y
4. 1r. Robert Curves asked if the defini of industrial waste was adequate ring
discrepancies in calving ,I~uige i ffert. Mr. ftnks recta the de£iiutron to
Me. paves and stated Hat he tboulht the t fiiutlon was adequate.
5. ro further discus Motion fY ~rtrtdssimer Comvm, sewnaed M
Crnmissiorer Grant that Public Nearing b_ closed. Motron carried by waeurtuus roll
call mote.
6. Nntim by Camu ner Coxmann, semnded by Gzrtrtissioner UskerF. that Ordinanw ~.
513 be adcpted. Motion ramrod by waeunous roll call mote.
Pesolutio authorizieg Hie ere of the Traffic Signal Agreement betws~n
t}e fire 3reparrnent of Transinrtation and I~g<~, Ploriaa. can g'
amded M' (bnm r Grant that Resolution [40. 439tte adopted.
troeron car~iea by wa~ous roll call wry.
A. cial Nuildirg, St Read 42]. M1b on by Cmmussiorer Nskect,
seconded by Oxmu xrnarm roar Site Plan be removed fran table. Motion carried
by wanvmus roll call vote.
fr. Owcey stated that the Nrte Plan was prcgerly zoned, wa a flwd pmfre are
and that water m on pone was adeyua[e. Cmmissioner Uskert asked what the building a
u1d to used form ated that the building wind have nuo rental
offices in rile frontMaed warelnusestin the rear Cmmissioner O`I¢~rquestiored
of pssking spaces and Mc. e fated the mould to six. Uskert
questioned if driveway Pexmvt had tee issued aeMrMr. Chacey state ~r.., a drrve.+ay
rer,nit wale to ne«s dry before a wilrung permit wad isspea.
lo. non by ~ dsd br mamiasi~er uskere uat s e Plan for
~tht Building to ac~ptnedr GMOtaon cuss-rrai by waiwmus mll cau mote.
11. Site Plan, R J. ]to!»rts Offire [Nilding, lot tl, Baywmd Industrial Park. C
Chdoay stated that the a s pn~perly zo d; wa a flxd prone axes
Chaary stated Chat the ameryhad agreed to c plyswiU City FYigineer's recmnendations
~ rtalomer to use culvert s.'rna. tcvlvpei'ts above and t~l~ ProPertY C~rkfine9reed to
12. lbtion ty Crnmissimer G ttmded by Came ner IPrmann Nat Site Plan be
approval. Notron carried by warunnus roll call mote.
re Offire Pu:ilding, Ieth 62 and 62~, t Mr. C9wceY
ratearriaclsce P~ixa~ naa been approwa by tiistorit mmdaa o~~ w,.~.,ura~-erlr zonea,
not flwd prore and that fire hydrant was adequate. 'ftre City E]igineer had remnrerderl
approval. Camussrorier Inxmsm stated that building would be an asset th tIV City.
14. Motion by Crnmissimer G secmdd ty Camu xmann that Site Plan for
Mvnrea Office Building to approved. Ibtrrm carri~aty urwnvmus roll call mote.
15. e Plan, S Daniels Warehouse, let 25 and SW 15 feet of Int 26, eaywvd
Ldustrial Park. Mr. Chary stated that the s as properly zoned, w not flmd
prone and that buildirg will have fire protection W Drier O'izazy staF¢d that
the Fire hvspector's sport indicates that Chu fire hydransts stnuld be adsquate but
that water flaw mould L marginal for protection of building. Mr Chaary stated Nat
he Md b~dgetad to iaprove Ne water systa~ for Bayxad lustrial Park with either an
8" or 10" w d that Nis would to first i study. Camdssioner
Ieaxy s te3rthatnwater waz needed ~u and questioea when the fire protection would
b=_ inproved. Mr Cha¢y stated that problan world to corrected within next 3 rrontlve.
sin{ spoke m minq the lwr wlwreof water available at Bayood Sndustrial
Pazk, stated that there wer~nos 11 building and that he exlected 8 additional buildings
witlvn six ironths. M Simpson sta N that tte City had a ]50 gallon taNSer truck and
Nat Sardnole Cowty had a 5,000 gallon Wrike trvek available to xes~nd. Mr. Ctwcey
rated tlxat to would azk me water study group t0 speed x@ them study of the Baywooa
Industrial Park.
16. on by Gsnm seconded by (Ymnissimer Uskert that s Plan for
a. x. [Nniels Wazehosuse beraPProwd. Ibtiw carried by unanvrous roll callrwte.
1]. [e Plan, Hallmark Office euilding (Addition), s Read 934, No Side, Wes
of 1]592. Na. pnacey stated ttwt additims axe rurally brought before Camu
but had tee in this r>= wuldnte paving str t and pmviaing £or~
axnage anvl an entry to rstlirre Mr. Cary Hunt representing am stated that he
wanted tw on the record; that security lights had been approved for the north
end of N¢ property and that me septic tank and drain fields would to relocated and
Nat buulding mould be squared off. N¢. tRacey stated Nat the (ity would assist in
preParirg right o£ way M hauling off excess dirt.
lA. On by Camussioner c secorded W ~mdssioner Uskert that sr Plan for
Hallmark Offio=_ Building to appro N. tbtron ra.rid by unanunous roll call mote.
19. on for re Doing faro R-2 to Comrercial. Sgcation Warren Avenue. Mr. Chacey
t pxcgerty~was Socatc3 on the west end o ce. and waz only a small
ar~~el,ae enomate =onea mmercial. .and Pe raffia mat h° was a joint amer
of the Project and that the plan was to build at esshoa cross and buildings Nat
mould be an to the City. Camdssionex in txmam~ questioned which way building wvula
rd that sore buildingswuld faa~ warren and sore ursard
but thadt no back ends of building would be shwm fxrnn the s Mr. Chacey stated Na
rezoung to Camercial w wrdaeuQ with Sand Use ant ataT~l t
that frost people thoughtaNenproperty was Camercial andlNat it should be.~
20. on by Cmmr sevnded by amra O'S.eaxy that petition for
rezon~g b=_ a~rova3551rvbtron c3rrie3 by a waeunous roll ull mote.
21. Ordinan No. 516, Re Wing of property fmn R-2 w Cunrercial. Mr R-~ks read
by t mly. on by C mnissioner Grant, seconded by Cumu O'S~ary ch
orainan« No. s16 retrpaased nn first reaain9- rroti~, was carrieae~%,n rout
call mote and public Haring s set for lbnday, Harch 9, 1981 at "1:30 P.n. ,,
22. Peti n for re oninrt~frwn R-2 to Nursing Note Medical Profession INiRAP-1) 0 s riot
Franktl+ams r of pmpcsed project spoke for the re Doing. Ne statedtthat ~
the building mould to sed az emmt Arne for the elderly; that the ar~pany was
mm~uttcd to building and l~abilitatin9 project so that it mould be mnq~atible with area.
stated that re mould to advantagmus to the City by in sing tM tax
rowide a place fo~~9groea's t~area u,at ne naa aiscuans~
the nroje~-t witl, resia~nte of me azeae~a rrpvtop~rete b~r~ceptiwe m ue re ~,.;»y.
roautrea Mr. Bonn waaaeu mono uvula be aaainisrsator ana Mr. Fana sa3nar, me aesign
ro~~uant.
23. mwm questioned nwrier of etcyants and Mr. Fanee rated that
ttw wu1ds14neiorns in first phase and when fully develop-il there urould be 90-50 costs.
mmdssiwnn o'reary y~nseionea if roams weula m inai~ia~,l ana Mr. Pamseur atatea res.
Waddell passed out plans for the pro~vsed building. Mayor Nepp asked if the
fee would be reasonable and Mr. Haase statsa ttcy uvula and it was their aesixe to fill
a need. Uskert asked about rec and Mr. Ramie tated they would
include a reading roan and lilu'ary but tlwt t}~ey wulderot have extensrw recreation scorn
senrors aid not desire it.
25. ant questiorzd if the m ter would hmk rY~ to present serer
syst®n~, mmsi ting that ne thought tMSe euld to a problem wilt: septic taNCS.sin as los.
K. [„addell and Mr. Fanse stated that they tlnught that pn>sent septic taNCS wouldabe
adequate f~~o t phase~a 6wcey stases that if tim meter used resent sep~Y tanks
a lifts he ted of r Amkup at $25,OOO.o0. Forks ed 1
that since this vas site plan application, aiscussion of septic tanks atwuld }m
brought ti@ at that tilre.a Crnmissiorer O'Leary asked hau aany employees and far.
Waddell said there would ~ 5. Came Grant asked if the wners had obtai d a
State Permit and Mr. Waddell stated notryet but that he was a Contractor, had experience
ement Fats and didn't foresee any problem. Mr. Waddell stated they would crnply
with Strte codes and obtain permit L fore cper~ing.
26. Canwssioner Uskext asked if ca~pany anticipated any proble and Mc. wal~ll stated
Crnrtdssioner Uskert stated he waz concerned i£ xetaxamnt ham failed and a nursing
tv._~ was built.
27. Camussionor Grant stated that he wanted the cmpany to agree in ting to the
conditions of tying into the ssuQ on teEore grantilg tl'n petitiw for rezovng.
Mc. Waddell. stated that he would sreeefr. Chacey ammmin9 agxearent For tying into
sewer systan L £om public hearing.
Mr. IShce Raves spoke in opprsition try ement Mee, g wing increased traffic,
faF'xe ha rn9 wmden rmf aril ro ent at@loyces to elderly were
xaa building. Camussrorec Grant stateartnat the state would give ~ requirement
for employees.
29. Crnmissiomx Uskert asked if retixa~ent bare gUalifie 4'-1 Di ct and
Mr. C'hacey stated yes, it was only a iretter of degree in facilities and in oartients/
~utpaevsam~t~afrt~ m~ ar~,a nr. w~ameu ~r a~+r,~tnurse would 1
ce~ilabie. abo
30. Came Wes Uskert asked about fire codes and Mr. CbaceY stag tiny mould be
required to c~p1y with So m.:lding Code. Csmissimer Iormvm stated that sM
g a mtrrnmnnt ham xmrld be a good Use of the property.
31. s spoke ayai.nst petition to sed population.
asked what should Ue builrling to usedlforean Mr. Rnks stated
that thezoning should provide for highest and test use o£ site.
32. on ty Cmmr vended by Cann isacy that petition for
rezorulg property besapprov~. Mo at on was carried tryrunanvrors roll moll vote.
No. 517, re Doing propzrty fran x2 to Pm-L. Mr Forks read by title
on1Y.0 onmby Cantu ccnded by Camus I¢ary that Ordinance
. 51"1 te3pass~ on f reading and Nat public tnazingrbeeseo for Manday, March 9,
1981 at >:30 p. m. M1bUCn carried by a m:a:vrzous roll. call mote.
34. solution No. 43], xequestieg a grant tU purchase a ansport sen
Mr. Charny stated that if the City mold obtain a grant to purchase a an, he muldruse
City enployeES and f:ul a~ provi~ transportation for sera to groceiY sW
n dical and ~i:tal offices, shop2irg m311s, a Mr. Cl: a rnyrstated Nat svu
were ,,: need of sree moans of transponarim ~a Nac he has rereiwd eve as n~r~st~
3s. oxm:, t askew no., luny H,e Grant ww.a ~ yood for and eh•. rnarey stated
Mr~Rrohs asked afoot in riders and Mr. (fiacey stated that
1~¢ehad checked and the insuranre m~{anY mould mverf~iders.
36. 4. Id~bert Ca objected to resolutic+„ s ting that Semuale Crnmty already provided
such a Bill Mitchell stated that he had sane objection.
suyyestirg applying for Grant and tutt:irq it d n later if it did in faRd~licate existing
Uskert stated that he was in fawr of H:e rcgaest; that we mold
proviaestette rwiN van. ner O'leary stated he was opposed to wtvy on
solution wtil Mrknew about other sere Mx. (1raCey stated that Febrvazy 15 was
the deadline for sutmission of the cesolutim m a decision was regnired Uv. everting.
37. M1b m try Crnmissioner Uskert that Resolution 93] be adopter and that it be
r ken rn mauanaaaae in order uwc lnny:.~ona th ansiaerea for crane Maror Bey pas>•ea
gavel m Ceputy Maror ro:nann and sem,:aea ~otia,.
38. Mr Bill MitcM11 suggested that Camdssim emtact Junior Ctumber of Carsrerce
and see wtut business people mold do to help.
39. Mr. Rsoks stated that resolution required that City rnrtify that them were rw
a~lieation of ae:urCes.
40. Mrs. KaNy Jack. spoke in favor of the resolution.
41. Caniussiomr Usket wiNdrew his notion and Mayor Hepp withdrew his secw:d.
42. Hmks suggested that Cam:ission mina pass the remlutie: subject to the City
Administrator mLCing tM determination Hut the r ycest mould not duplicate other
ewsting servrces.
43. on by Cmnr Uskert, s carded by Mayor tkpp (while ~puty Mayor Lonrcv~n
ng7 [ha solution No. 43] be adopted sub o the City Administrator making
a depteemtination Na the request did not dr@licate exrstir:g se m passed by
a wanvrous roll call mote. [kputy Mayor Inmann rehuned gavelr tos Nayor t4pp.
44. 4. Chamy stated that the City inventory of acmwtable i.tais ux;uld commence in
Februazy.
45. Mr. Cnacey stated that the City was in need of anew City Map and raluested authority
to have City F]rgineer prepared dap for a fee of 51,900 wiN S1o00.00 arcing frwn [4ater
Csn rtrrent and SS,o00 crnung fran C~ncal ftmd. Crnmissioner Grant asksl r£ the nap
and In
asked to %vv~r.+~ p befoxeYhaving itpincedtin ffinal form. sroners Grant xm3ru:
46. m by Ccnrtdssimer texnam, sem dad by Camdssioner Uskert th City Flrgineer
to autMriud to prepare mesa City Map form fee of $1,900.00. Motron carried by unanvmus
roll call mote.
4]. Mr. Clracey reported m efforts teing made in Seminole County to get all parents ~.
urwlwd in the solving of the Orvg Abuse emblem. Mr. Chacey stated that drvgs wese
readily available. r. Oracey stated that he weld be a ending a m=eting in Sanford
npanesdaY rromin9M amY stated that m~tings would be held on FFbruary 24, '
1981 at Lyman High ScHml and on Msrch 24 at Sanford Civic Center. Mr. Qracey stated
that it urgent problan and , e=1' l authoazatim to prelrare a letter to be mailed
o all registered voters requastirg their participatim in solving the arng emblem.
tested ttat approxinaTely 5300.00 would Ee eauirea to nail letters to sore 3,000 voters
a,a he regneetea aw,ori:atiw to use the ¢ty ndm ,,; srramr's mntir~9e. y fu<,aa for ef,at
purpose.
48. Camdssioerer Uskert stated Fe was opixxed to victual letters and suggesstea that
the news media Ce requested to urge parents svpport.~
49. ! JWUr Crystal suggested that the hrnewmers as ns be xc cestsl to support
the Pralram. Mayor Bepp stated that }n waz in fawr o£ nailing letters.
50. Mr. Bill Mitchell stag Uat he waz in fawr of mahout and suggeste3 inwlving
sl. Camu x'msnn questiorea what letter mould say and Mr. Clwmy stated it uvula
have many facts about current deny prrLlsm and it would invite the parents participation.
52. tfr. Clarmee bbore sp>lce in £awr of m'ulout. Mr. Jvn Fns sprke against mahout.
53. (Ynmissi nee O'Leary requested that tle letter be prepared and b=_ available to
mn~ussion at erext neetirrg.ard Mr. CtwceY agreed to have it ready.
59. I9r. Cnacey requested that a new date b=_ set for the second public Feazing on
the Proirned zoning ordinanm..and su99ested M1bnaay, [larch 16. 1981.
55. Mr, [d~Ixrt Oaws asked when a mrplete ocPY of wrung ordinance mould be available
for public revier. Mr. Qiacey said a :i weld b=_ available by t4axch 2, 1981..
56. son requested that xemamndations o s Advisory Caunittee
and Crnmission's a,+ron on the remnnandatio-s >K disseminated to public.
5]. Mr. R 4s stated that pzowsed ordinance xould be in final fom~ 15 days before public
Hearing. Cmnrissiorrer O'Leary asked i two additronal public Heazings mould to requires.
Mr. Rml<s stated drat ordinance mold ip amended at next public heazing.
58. w. Chacey asked that tle Camdssim hold a workshop se sign ordinance
and that all sign avgranies tp invited ro atteM. A wrkshopssessron was sckdulea for
Friday, Februuy 20, 1981 at 2:00 Y.M.
59. e¢. CHacey stated that CNtJO Had rsluesfea that City nrndnate these citrzeris to serve
ax equalization Cmmittee. City needed to to 1 to 3
kmaledgeable purple and that orange CowtynHad good sucross month [he program. nCamussamer
In stag cranes were cequirea by Mardi 4, 1981.
60. Police Cepartnent Camwricat:,.,. Corrsoliaacim Report. Chie£ Greg Manning briefed
the Comerission m a propased corvsoliaatim of mnmrnr rims facilities with t}ie
Seminole Comty Sheriff's Department. Ouef Marvurig stated that he mould save tle 1
salaries of 3 dispatdrers and the future purchase of approximately $90,000 wrth of -
ns aFti.[nant. rated systan mould not detraR fran security
but actvaily enlance it ana~mquestedr~authority to join pxogr m trial basis.
61. Cmmussvorer Lccnonn asked that Bheriff Polk brief the Commission on proposal.
62. !a'. Bill Mitd'iell spoke against wnsolida[ion of camvnicatrm facilities.
63. red that this program wind theca a wedge in the City's efforts
to elviunatevdouble taxatvm.
64. Mr. Jvn Ik~ss sFOke in favor of systa'n citing ~roretary advantages.
65. Ccnmissimer Uskert spo rn fawr of w solidation c .i.ng his prior expe.r.iencc
with system. Camdssioner iexmarm stag that she was in favor of linking in o the system.
Mayor Heph+ stated proposal mould be m timed until February 1 and asked that Chief
,'~Neming have smeone fxo'n the Sheriff's 4parGmni available. 6
66. Cmmissimer O'izary grestimea Chief MarvGing inn wing high mileage of pzesent
flcet of dice vehicles aGd high wets to maintain vehicles. Chief Manning stated tint
City had got behind rot cn schedule by m and this w mileage
aev3 reasnrendad that CityvpurcFiase 4 car's ~xcyear. '1W vehicles are due in M1HrCh/April.
6]. Mr. Ducey stated that he Itid no <zmgilaints; th (Sty had Fallen one vehicle
behind the yeaz they purchased tw orcycles. and Mayor Hepp
sug~st a that rl,a city atteapt to yac w~ on a~hem,l~sot rora g cars at eo, BOB miles.
66. 1 Fending, Ordiwnrn~~NO. 513, governing the sale and Fu=chase of previous ~retals.
Me. Pookstread by title mly.
on bF Camu wrided by Cmmu Uskert that ordinance No.
513 Ca pazsed m firs wading a~ndntlGat public hearingsb=_ set for March 16, 1981.
1 Ntrtron carried lry a tvnaiilrtaus roll call vote.
i ]1. First Pending, ONuiance No. 515 setting migr anon for City Commission. Mr. Araks
read M title only grid stated that effective date was rSaeged to apply with the City ['haTM°*
]2. Nn on by Crnmissiwms O'leary, seomded by ~amissiorer Uskert that Ordinance No. 515
to Fassea m first reacling. M1btion carried m a of 4 to 1 wiTlh Camdssioners Inxmuin,
O Leary and Uskert and Mayor t@pp wring Aye and Ummissimer Grant wring Nay.
]3. Cmmi rer O'SZavy asked if the S50.o0 exrense allwance was payable to Cmnussiorers
and Mr, Fooks star d yes with a wuctu?r. per O'ICazy asked if it was ne ssary
m a,mlere a>~nse voueher wim e~,ses each aana~th ana nr. Fnoks sraeea he woula meek
unto and rnEnrt bark m February 16.
s spoke st pay in ase aed stated he thought it c duty
and res6vnsibility to serve arc1 that Cam¢ssroners should not be wncemedawith pay.
]5. Mayor Nepp reparted that during aonth of July 1980, Cmmvssvm had held nine stings
and he stated t}ut he believed increase w 1 tified.
tared thatiie at[erded other imetings beside Camu Greetings -
Ctl ~1e ~ spinpottant to m do. tiskert. suggested and rt. wa pFroved
to setepublic hearieg fox Ordinance No. 515 on P~archrl6, 1981.
]]. !4..lvn Lormvm spake vn fawr of in sing m~gensation for City Ccmuissim.
J ]8. &»ks remxted on the status o£ thed5 to Plan Ordinance. He saidNGat~ pxe-
r rk wiib the present ordinance an pminsed B.vt Plan ordin ce til it
fsrpassed xo
]9. FHyor and Crnmissiarer's ~ro
~,;ssioner,~
rn the $2~.00o II+A
st CAiSp in PrePar
szo,ooo to n,aaa anaila
ao. on M ~ seconaa ny c~a.s uskert that c~t,, pay
approvedabills. Pbtsion arriea by wanvious roll call mote.
01. Csmnissioner Grant inquimd afoot the status of wrk to Ce dcne on Lake Sane and
4K. Chacey said City was wart,.nq r oeR aEpmval.
02. asked [hat a of Orange Avenue Ce resurfaced to take
raze of fiverrolesGr Mr. Cnacey said that he mould take care of.
83. er Grant req:estzd tiwt the Crnmissiw wnsider anotMr trash wntract
sanrn the psrresent one expires on February 20.
09. or V¢pp stated ttat M had xernived a letter fmn Camussioner Sandra Glee:n
azking for an opinion w ming Ne question of Hie 9/5 w cegarding A~m+:dre t of
the Coi!pr Jw ire Flan. n y Nepp asked t}ie Cramussrorers to mad letter and gryz
thew oP~nrons.
B5. 14. Gorge elps of Skylark subdivision sFnke against tM City discontinuing free
trash Pickup. Mr. QarnY stated that ll':e service was Presently Provided tY tie
individual gaxGage mgsanies as part of tFeir regular service to
w w,,,eceaaaty e,~enae to ire city. nr. ca:arnr statPa ri,ac ri,e Gicv mouse m,tu:ve to
on by o>ann uakerc, eemndaa by G~rsa
mod. ebetins wasnaeiontnea at u:lo a.w.
n i of longweoa, eloriaa
city c~-~*~/