Pension04-17-12Min BOARD OF TRUSTEES
Florida Municipal Trust Fund Retirement Plan and Trust
for the Firefighters and Police Officers
Longwood City Commission Chambers
175 West Warren Avenue
Longwood, Florida
REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES
April 17, 2012 7:00 p.m.
Present: Robert Redditt, Chair
Peter Katauskas, Vice Chair
Derek Chenoweth, Member
Marc McLarnon, Member
Scott Christiansen, Board Attorney
Dustin Heintz, Florida League of Cities
Sarah M. Mirus, Recording Secretary
Absent: Chris Kempf, Secretary
1. Call to Order. Chair Redditt called the meeting to order at 7:03 P.M.
2. Pledge of Allegiance. Chair Redditt led in the Pledge of Allegiance.
3. Certify Re- Election of Trustee- Firefighter Chris Kempf.
Ms. Mirus noted with the adoption of Ordinance No. 11 -1980 by the City
Commission, Firefighter Kempf would serve on the Board for a four (4) year term
from March 4, 2012 to March 3, 2016.
Vice Chair Katauskas moved to certify the re- election of Trustee -
Firefighter Chris Kempf. Seconded by Member Chenoweth and
carried by a unanimous roll call vote with Secretary Kempf absent.
4. Approval of Minutes: April 19, 2011 Regular Meeting, August 23, 2011
Special Meeting and October 1S, 2011 Regular Meeting.
Member McLarnon moved to accept the Minutes as presented.
Seconded by Vice Chair Katauskas and carried by a unanimous
roll call vote with Secretary Kempf absent.
5. Review of Agenda Packet Material.
A. Plan Account Statements (December 2011, January 2012 and
February 2012).
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The Board reviewed. the Plan Account Statements in detail.
Chair Redditt noted for the December Statement the Beginning Balance
was $7,515,195.17, the Contributions were $17,035.33, the Earnings were
$26,805.94, the Distribution was $0, the Fees/Expenses were ($3,772.61)
and the Ending Balance was $7,555,263.83.
Chair Redditt noted for the January Statement the Beginning Balance was
$7,555,263.83, the Contributions were $25,623.22, the Earnings were
$239,931.56, the Distributions were $0, the Fees/Expenses were
($3,583.22) and the Ending Balance was $7,817,235.39.
Chair Redditt noted for the February Statement the Beginning Balance
was $7,817,235.39, the Contributions were $17,952.95, the Earnings were
$215,492.46, the Distributions were $0, the Fees /Expenses were $0 and
the Ending Balance was $8,050,680.80.
Mr. Heintz introduced himself to the Board and said he was with the
Florida League of Cities (FLC) and stated he took Mr. Paul Shamoun's
position as head of the pension plan. He stated Mr. Shamoun was still
with FLC but he was now the Manager for the pension and investment
plans. He stated he would be coming to the meetings, and the meetings he
would not be attending, he would always be available by telephone. He
then explained the expenses /fees that were charged by the FLC and how
they were charged. He then described his job responsibilities in detail
with the FLC and listed the investment managers who were. handling the
funds.
Discussion ensued regarding the fees that were being, charged to the plan
and the return on the investment plans.
Member McLarnon moved to accept the Statements as presented.
Seconded by Member Chenoweth and carried by a unanimous roll
call vote with Secretary Kempf absent.
B. Quarterly Performance Review (October 2011 to December 31, 2011).
Mr. Heintz reviewed the Quarterly Performance ending on December 31,
2011 in detail and then answered questions from the Members of the
Board. He stated if they have any questions to please contact him.
Chair Redditt noted the Beginning Balance for the Quarter was
$6,994,662.85, the Contributions were $83,242.92, the Earnings were
$484,503.67, the Distributions were $0, the Expenses were ($7,145.61)
and the Ending Balance as of December 31, 2011 was $7,555,263.83.
Discussion was held regarding the returns for the current fiscal year.
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Member McLarnon moved to accept the Quarterly Statement as
presented. Seconded by Vice Chair Katauskas and carried by a
unanimous roll call vote with Secretary Kempf absent.
C. Invoices.
Chair Redditt noted there were no invoices included in the Agenda Packet.
Mr. Heintz said there was an outstanding invoice from December which
was for the impact statement for the Ordinance, and he believed it had not
been paid. He said he did not have the information with him.
Ms. Mirus said she could check with Mr. Williams tomorrow, but he had
stated there were no invoices to include in the Agenda Packet.
Attorney Christensen stated the Board had adopted Operating Rules and
Procedures for the day -to -day operation of the plan as to how to handle
administration. He said one of the things they approved was a provision in
the Operating Rules and Procedures to allow for the payment of bills
between meetings. He said if bills came in, they had a contract and staff
could look at the bill and say it was in line with the fees that were
supposed to be charged. He said that bills could be sent in for payment
between meetings, and would come back to the Board at the next meeting
and they would see it and approve it after the fact. He said most of the
plans handle things that way and someone would not have to wait three (3)
months to get the bill paid. He said the provision that they put into the
Operating Rules and Procedures was that the authorization to make the
payments from the fund had to be made and signed off by two (2)
Trustees. He said he understands that really was not what they were doing
and Mr. Williams was approving the - payments. He said he was the
Finance Director when he paid those bills and asked the Board to consider
a change assuming they were comfortable with that methodology that
allowed the Finance Director to pay those bills when they come in and
authorize the payment. He suggested changing the Operating Rules and
Procedures to reflect what they were actually doing and what they want to
authorize. He said if they were okay with that change, he would put
together a one (1) page Addendum for the Board to approve at the next
meeting to authorize the Finance Director to authorize those payments
rather than to require the two (2) Trustees.
Discussion ensued regarding the proposed change to the Operating Rules
and Procedures and capping the authorization to pay the expenses.
It was the consensuses of the Board to amend the Operating Rules and
Procedures and to allow the Finance Director to approve the bills that did
not exceed $5,000 and to have Attorney Christiansen bring that change
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forward at the next meeting.
D. 2011 Annual Report for Longwood Police and Fire.
Attorney Christiansen asked if they were looking to approve the Annual
Report or had it been submitted.
Mr. Heintz said it had already been submitted and did not know if they
had received the approval letter yet from the State.
Attorney Christiansen asked if the Board had to take any action on it.
Mr. Heintz said it was included in the Agenda Packet for informational
purposes.
Vice Chair Katauskas said it was a matter of routine and standard practice.
Attorney Christiansen said it was a reporting requirement.
Mr. Heintz discussed the process to receive the approval of the Annual
Report from the State.
Chair Redditt inquired if the report was based on a calendar year.
Mr. Heintz said it was based on a fiscal year.
Chair Redditt inquired if they needed a motion for the Item.
Attorney Christiansen responded in the negative.
6. Other Business.
A. Appointee of the Fifth Trustee.
Ms. Mirus stated Member McLarnon did express an interest in
reappointment.
Member McLarnon said he was the Fifth Trustee and said he was fine to
stay on and serve or if the Board would like to have someone else step -on
he was fine with that and stated it was totally up to the Board.
Vice Chair Katauskas moved to accept Member McLarnon's kind
offer and have him continue as the Fifth Member. Seconded by
Chair Redditt.
Ms. Mirus stated Member McLarnon's term would begin on June 3, 2012
thru June 2, 2016.
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Motion was approved by a unanimous roll call vote with Secretary
Kempf absent.
7. Board Attorney Report.
Attorney Christiansen stated at the last meeting they approved the actuarial
evaluation and did not do the Declaration of Return. He said State law requires
when the actuarial evaluation was approved, they were required to declare an
expected rate of investment return for the next year, the next several years and the
long -term thereafter. He said it was a State requirement and they were required to
do it. He said he thinks the reason they waited was because .Mr. Heintz was going
to be attending this meeting, and he was the appropriate person to ask for an
expectation of the return going forward. He said the idea behind this was the
State wants to make sure every time they approve an actuarial evaluation that they
have considered the portfolio and the asset location that they have in the plan as it
might apply towards the assumption. that they were using in the actuarial
evaluation for investment returns going forward. He said he thought they were
using seven and one -half (7'/2 %) percent.
Mr. Heintz responded in the affirmative.
Attorney Christiansen said they were using a seven and one -half (7'/2 %) percent
investment return assumption in the actuarial evaluation, and that they approved
that evaluation at the last meeting. He suggested asking Mr. Heintz what he
would recommend they declare as an expected rate of return for the next year,
next several years and the long -term. thereafter.
Mr. Heintz said they have been seeing with the trend there had been a lot of
pension plans that have been in excess of eight (8 %) percent and the trend seems
to be going down. He said the expected return was not reaching those levels,
especially given some of the limitations that the public investing typically has on
it. He said the seven and one -half (7'/2 %) percent return has been right in line
with the expected ten (10) year return that would be on this portfolio. He said
there was room to be cautious and there was always room to lower. He noted a
lot of their plans were trying to drift towards a seven (7) or a seven and one -half
(7'/z) return. He said once they get. down the path a little, the expectation between
a seven (7 %) or a seven and one -half (7' /Z %) percent was pretty good. He said the
actuary comes in and talks about his report, and said he would not oppose anyone
lowering an investment return, and that had ramifications. He said when lowering
an investment return, it was going to increase the required funding ratio for the
City. He said it had to be coupled at a time with other factors, if they were strong
investment gains or if there were some actuarial gains in the plan, then that would
drive the cost down, and then they lower the investment rate and would drive the
cost up to off -set it, and it tends to be a good opportunity to keep the plan cost
neutral and make it more conservative in the long -term. He stated seven and one -
half (7'/2 %) percent was a very reasonable rate to continue to assume, and he
would not recommend increasing it, but he would not be opposed to the idea of
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decreasing it. He said being as conservative as possible was going to help make
the pension plan look stronger in the future.
Discussion ensued regarding using the seven and one -half (7'/2 %) percent was a
reasonable expectation based on the 60 -40 asset allocation.
Attorney Christiansen said they were premature in doing the Declaration of
Return and apologized. He said they would be doing that at the next meeting if
they get the valuation, and would revisit then and would have his
recommendation with regard to the assumption.
Vice Chair Katauskas said they would discuss this at the next meeting as
indicated. He inquired how often the valuation was completed.
Mr. Heintz said the valuation was required by the State every three (3) years and
accounting rules required it every two (2) years. He said most plans have it done
every year and at a minimum every two (2) years.
Attorney Christiansen said he apologized and they would be talking about it at the
next meeting when they do the evaluation.
Attorney Christiansen reminded everyone they had to turn in their Financial
Disclosure (Form 1) form by July 1St to the Supervisor of Elections Office and if
they do not file their Form 1 by July 1 St, then they would have until September 1St
and after September 1S they would be fined $25 for each day it was late.
Attorney Christiansen said at the next meeting he would be out of the Country and
Attorney Lee Dehner would be in attendance at the next meeting. He stated the
Ordinance was adopted in February and wanted to confirm it was sent to Ms.
Patricia Shoemaker and Mr. Keith Britton at the State.
Ms. Mirus said she would check on that and Mr. Williams was handling the
matter.
Attorney Christiansen referred to the Summary Plan Description, and said now
that they have the new Ordinance in place, they need to revise the Summary Plan
Description. He stated that could be done in two (2) ways. He said the last one
that was completed was in 2006.
Mr. Heintz responded stating they had completed it yesterday.
Attorney Christiansen inquired if it was going to be distributed to them.
Mr. Heintz responded in the negative. He said they used it today for the plan
meetings using the most recent information.
Attorney Christiansen said they had already distributed it..
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Mr. Heintz responded in the affirmative. He said he would bring it back for
approval.
Attorney Christiansen had asked for a copy of the Summary Plan Description
from Mr. Heintz. He said the Summary Plan Description was a document that
summarizes the provisions of the plan and who the Trustees were. He said the
FLC had already done it and prepared it in accordance with the new Ordinance,
and he would take a look at it and let everyone know if it was done right at the
next meeting. He inquired if it was distributed to the members and noted they
were going backwards.
Mr. Heintz responded in the affirmative. He said that it was an oversight on his
part and the fact they did not have one, and the one they did have was out of date
and knew they were having meetings today on what the information was.
Attorney Christiansen said that he would get his copy and they would approve it
after the fact at the next meeting.
Mr. Heintz noted in Florida Statutes it required the Summary Plan Description to
have actuarial information. He said the Legislation last year required the State to
produce forms for each public pension plan and put it on the State website, and it
also requires the City to post it on their website.
Attorney Christiansen said the next matter he wanted to discuss was the Mr. John
Zeh situation that was brought up. He said he did review the records, and he sent
out a letter to him indicating they were scheduling a hearing to determine whether
they had probable cause to find that his benefit should be forfeited. He thought
that what he read gives the Board a basis for the forfeiture, based on what was
done. He said his conviction was not final because he could appeal his conviction
and noted he was in jail. He said the fact that his conviction is not final was not
the only basis for forfeiture. He said it was either a conviction of given offenses or
having his employment terminated because he did certain things. He said he
understands Mr. Zeh was given the opportunity to resign in lieu of termination,
but that does not get around the fact that bottom line was, he would have lost his
job but for this activity, so as a result, his employment was terminated. He said
he received a letter from him and then he got a call from his mother. He said in
the letter from him he asked that they delay their decision on the forfeiture until
he gets out of jail, which would potentially be in a couple of years. He stated he
did not see any reason to delay the decision until that point. He does not have a
problem with waiting until his conviction is final. He said he was not aware that
he had appealed it, but what he had done at this point was to send a follow -up
letter and said they have postponed consideration of the forfeiture until the
meeting they have scheduled in October. He said that would give time for any
appeals. He said if there was no appeal, he can send a representative if he wanted
to, but the basis for forfeiture was, if they do certain things, the Board was
required to forfeit the pension. He said they have it scheduled for October and if
the Board wanted to wait until he gets out of jail so he could appear before the
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Board, he was okay with that too. He noted he had all the records together.
Chair Redditt inquired why he wanted them to wait.
Attorney Christiansen said he thought he wanted to come and plead his case.
Vice Chair Katauskas said Attorney Christiansen had stated this was not final and
he had been convicted at the Circuit Court level, but had the right to appeal. He
inquired if there was a Statute of Limitations on how long he had to appeal.
Attorney Christiansen said he had a certain amount of time to appeal. He said if
he does not appeal, they would know his conviction was final.
Vice. Chair Katauskas said if he did appeal within the proper time frame, it could
carry on.for a while.
Attorney Christensen said he was not on paid status, but he was terminated
vested, which meant he had a right to receive a benefit years in the future. He
noted he had not requested his contributions yet, but has that right. He said they
would be revisiting this situation. He then answered questions from the Members
of the Board regarding this matter.
Member Chenoweth asked if they had fiduciary liability insurance in place.
Attorney Christiansen responded in the affirmative. He said the answer was the
recourse premium was $125 and it was paid and he asked if it was paid out of the
plan. He said the Fiduciary Liability Insurance was to be paid out of the plan and
there was a Waiver of Recourse that the insurance company offers as an
additional premium and it was $125 a year. He said it was designed to make the
plan whole in the event there is a breach of fiduciary responsibility and provided
an example. He said if they have Fiduciary Liability Insurance, the City or a
member could make a claim against the Board saying they breached their
fiduciary responsibility and there was a loss associated with that. He said they
could make a claim to the Fiduciary Liability Insurance Company to have the plan
made whole for the breach of liability insurance and the insurance company
would pay to make the plan whole. He said the insurance company would look to
see who was responsible for that claim, and they go back to those who were
responsible in order to recover the loss they had to pay. He stated the insurance
company could go back at them personally because they want to get their money
back because they had to pay a claim and the Board caused it. He said they offer
the Waiver of Recourse; the insurance company would give up their right to go
back against the individual Trustees to recoup that loss. He stated from the
Board's standpoint, that was the most important part of the policy. He said the
problem was that the $125 cannot be paid from the fund, and if it was, it was not
effective. He said it had to be paid from an outside source, be it a labor union or
the City paying it, or even individual Trustees.
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Ms. Mirus noted at the October 2011 Pension Board Meeting, the motion was to
approve all the invoices, except the $126.63 invoice, which the City would pay,
and it was the Recourse invoice.
Attorney Christiansen said they needed to follow -up and see that the $126.63
invoice was paid by the City.
8. Member Comments.
Chair Redditt said the only comment he would make was to proceed with their
continuing education and going to the Pension Board School. He asked how
many present have not been to the School, and asked if they could get a list of
potential, local opportunities. He said it was required to attend one of these
schools if they sit on the Board.
Mr. Heintz noted the State was having a meeting on May 14 15th and 16 in
Tallahassee.
Ms. Mirus stated the Florida Public Pension Trustee Association (FPPTA) was
holding their annual conference on .Tune 24 through the 27 at the Hilton Disney,
Lake Buena Vista.
9. Public Participation. None.
10. Adjournment. Chair Redditt adjourned the meeting to order at 8:36 p.m.
Robert Redditt, Chair
ATTEST:
Sarah M. Mirus, MMC, M_
BA, Recording Secretary
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