CC11-07-16MinLONGWOOD CITY COMMISSION
Longwood City Commission Chambers
175 West Warren Avenue
Longwood, Florida
MINUTES
November 7, 2016
6:00 P.M.
Present: Mayor Joe Durso
Deputy Mayor Mark Weller
Commissioner John C. Maingot
Commissioner Ben Paris
Commissioner Brian D. Sackett
Dan Langley, City Attorney
Jon C. Williams, City Manager
Michelle Longo, City Clerk
Chris Capizzi, Leasure Services Director
Lee Ricci, Human Resources Director
Lisa Snead, Financial Services Director
David Dowda, Interim Police Chief
Mike Peters, Interim Fire Chief
Chris Kintner, Interim Community Development Director
Tom Kruger, Economic Development Manager
Tom Smith, Division Manager Streets
1. CALL TO ORDER. Mayor Durso called the meeting to order at 6:02
p.m.
2. OPENING INVOCATION. Ms. Randa Black with the Central Florida
Freethought Community gave the Invocation.
3. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
4. COMMUNITY ANNOUNCEMENTS. Ms. Longo read the following
announcements.
A. The "Downtown Longwood Cruise -In" Car Show will be held
on Saturday, November 12, 2016 from 5:00 p.m. until 8:00 p.m.
in the Historic District of Longwood located off of Church
Avenue.
B. The City of Longwood will host the fourth annual "Chili Cook -
Off" in conjunction with the monthly car show on Saturday,
November 12, 2016 from 4:00 p.m. to 6:30 p.m. in the Historic
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District of Longwood located off Church Avenue. A taster's
kit can be purchased in advance for $5.00 or on the day of the
show for $7.00.
C. Senior Matinee will be held on Wednesday, November 16, 2016
from 1:30 p.m. until 3:30 p.m., Longwood City Hall
(Chambers),175 West Warren Avenue. This month's feature
is The Sea of Trees.
D. The 40tb Annual Longwood Arts and Crafts Festival will be
held in Downtown Historic Longwood, from 9:00 a.m. until
5:00 p.m. on Saturday, November 19, 2016 and from 9:00 a.m.
to 4:00 p.m. on Sunday November 20, 2016.
E. Celebrate the Season will be held on Friday, December 2, 2016
from 6:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. in the Downtown Historic District.
There will be ice-skating, train rides, food, crafts, games, a
chance to visit with Santa Claus and the lighting of the tree
around 6:15 p.m.
F. The Longwood Citizens on Patrol Christmas Parade will be
held on Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 3:00 p.m. and will make
its way through the Historic District of Longwood.
5. PROCLAMATIONS / RECOGNITIONS
A. District #1 Presentation of the Business Person of the Month
Award for November 2016 to Eric B. Marks, President of Avex
Homes, LLC, located at 28 East Washington Street, Orlando.
Commissioner Maingot read a brief biography on Mr. Eric B.
Marks and then presented him with the Business person of the
Month Award for November 2016. Photographs were then taken.
B. Proclaiming November 17, 2016 as "World Pancreatic Cancer
Day".
Commissioner Paris read the Proclamation and then presented it to
Mr. Scott Mabry. Photographs were then taken.
C. Nomination of the Beautification Award.
Commissioner Maingot nominated the Tiberon Cove Subdivision
for the Beautification Award. Commissioner Maingot withdrew
his nomination and delayed until the next quarter in light of the
Church Avenue construction. Nomination withdrawn by a
unanimous voice vote.
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Commissioner Sackett nominated Orlando Health - South
Seminole Hospital for the Beautification Award. Nomination
carried by a unanimous voice vote.
6. BOARD APPOINTMENTS
A. District #4 Nomination to the Land Planning Agency.
Deputy Mayor Weller nominated Mr. Glenn Kirwan for
appointment to the Land Planning Agency. Nomination carried by
a unanimous voice vote.
B. District #2 Nomination to the Board of Adjustment.
Mayor Durso nominated Mr. Tom DeNegre for reappointment to
the Board of Adjustment. Nomination carried by a unanimous
voice vote.
7. PUBLIC INPUT
A. Presentation: Mr. Andrew Apgar with Schneider Electric to
give a presentation on Capital Improvement & Reinvestment
Program.
Mr. Apgar gave his presentation and went over the corporate
overview, program overview, program delivery, and program
benefits. He said the next step would be asking for Commission
approval of the Energy Services Contract, to be followed by
financing. He went over the next steps following financing. He
said there would be a construction period, and at the end they
would train staff on the use of the system. He stated there is an on-
going performance period by measurement verification. He said
they test a sample of the water meters to ensure they are
performing as they should, and then provide on -going services to
perform data analytics to make sure the City is achieving the
revenues that are outlined within the contract. He said they would
be replacing about 5,900 water meters and will work with staff to
include all new ones as your infrastructure grows. He stressed they
want to be here to support the City as it grows and provide their
expertise.
Discussion ensued and Mr. Apgar answered questions from the
Commission.
B. Public Participation.
JoAnne Rebello, 301 Loch Lomond Avenue, Longwood said
approximately six (6) weeks ago a budget was passed that stated
various capital improvement projects for the current fiscal year and
future years. She said nowhere are these smart meters mentioned,
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except under the Utility Billing Program, which mentioned briefly
in the objectives to increase utilization of electronic water meters
in subdivisions with encoder registers. She asked, where are these
meters located. She said Wildmere Subdivision was having a lot
of problems and she wanted to know if this is one of the locations
where the digital meters are currently located. If so, several
neighbors complained of their outrageous water/sewer bills, which
Mayor Durso explained away as the citizens basically receiving
water/sewer and not paying appropriately. She said I do not think
$600, $900 or a $1,200 bill is reasonable where no leaks were
found. She said she understands the digital meters were replaced
at least once. She said you need to ask and investigate where these
digital meters are located, how many have been replaced, and how
many complaints have been issued. She went back to the budget
saying, a budget just beginning, and now the Commission is being
asked to add an approximate $3 million dollar debt onto the
citizens. She said this contract is on the back of the residents, and
when she reads it, it does not include businesses, most likely to
keep it under the $3 million dollar threshold. She said the cost in
her opinion is misleading, and does not show recurring costs. It
appears to be a very subjective warranty towards the vendor, and
shows modest savings over a twenty (20) year period, that may or
may not be accurate based on equipment failure, rising costs of
maintenance and administration. She said these so-called smart
meter systems have had numerous complaints from within Florida
and around the nation. She stated, Google it, as I did. She said we
are going backwards. In March, 2009, Mr. Kornbluh presented a
very similar system, not under Schneider, but Elster Amco Water
Company, which was a costly and unbudgeted capital project. She
said she finds the timing of this presentation of a proposed contract
suspect so soon after a budget that was approved. She asked the
Commission to ask the questions, either vote no or have this
completely investigated.
David Dieska, 121 Citrus Tree Lane, Longwood asked about Mr.
Maingot's question as to whether Schneider Electric had installed
these meters in other cities in Seminole County, and he was not
clear if the answer was yes. He said his background is high tech,
specifically, he is an engineer in integrated circuit design and
computer electronics. He said from what he has heard, the water
meters are a high tech product. He wanted to caution the City
about making large, capital investments in new technology -
oriented devices, he said specifically, technology improvements
that are made over time. Today's technology is tomorrow's
dinosaur. He stated it evolves very quickly. He said the payoff for
this investment is ten (10) or more years. He said you should
easily expect newer and better technologies available in less than
ten (10) years. He said think of the emerging technology and how
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things have changed from just ten (10) years ago. A lot are
obsolete, so consider that. He said if the City had an immediate
need to replace all the current water meters now, he would
understand looking at the latest technology and move forward with
that. He said however, I don't think that is the case. I know about
technology and how it evolves, so I wish you well and hope you
make the best decision.
Mr. Langley stated there needs to be a motion to move Item 12D
up in the Agenda.
Commissioner Maingot moved to pull Item 12D under
regular business up on the agenda. Seconded by
Commissioner Paris and carried by a unanimous voice
vote.
121). City Commission approval/rejection of an Energy Services Contract
with Schneider Electric.
Mr. Williams stated as pointed out in a meeting back in May,
2014, we received authorization from the Commission to develop a
business case at no financial obligation to the City. He said the
results of the business case were ultimately presented to the
Commission during the December 2014. He said we then
proceeded into an investment audit, which would do a further
analysis of the overall project and opportunities within the City.
He said with the approval of the investment -grade audit, it was
identified that if it is determined, after the audit is completed, that
there are projects, there would be a financial obligation to the City
in the amount of $49,600 if we chose not to proceed. He said the
original project was in excess of $4 million dollars, it included
lighting retrofits and a water meter replacement program. He said.
the item that is before the Commission tonight has been scaled
down to remove the retrofits. He said we are looking at the history
of what the City Hall Complex is going to be in terms of
renovation, demolition, relocating, so we felt like it was not wise to
include those parts of the project with this agreement and just
include the water meters. He said the water meter project is at $2.9
million dollars. If approved tonight, this agreement is subject to
and contingent upon obtaining successful financing. There will be
issuance costs that come out of that, that would more than likely
push this total cost of this project over $3 million dollars. He said
pursuant to City Charter, it would require a super majority vote
from the Commission for the issuance of that debt. He said staff
recommends either approving the contract and move forward, or
we reject it, and subsequently issue Schneider Electric a check for
$49,600.
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Deputy Mayor Weller moved to reject Item 12D and
authorize the City Manager to pay the $49,600 for the
investment -grade audit performed by Schneider Electric.
This motion will instruct the City Manager to fully utilize
the energy savings recommendations bought forward in
that audit wherever possible. Seconded by Commissioner
Maingot and motion failed by a two to three (2-3) roll call
vote with Mayor Durso, Commissioner Paris and
Commissioner Sackett voting nay.
Commissioner Paris moved to approve the contract with
Schneider Electric and instruct staff to seek financing.
Seconded by Commissioner Sackett and motion carried by
a three to two (3-2) roll call vote with Deputy Mayor
Weller and Commissioner Maingot voting nay.
8. MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS' REPORT
District #5. Commissioner Sackett said the Halloween in the Park Event
was a great job done by Mr. Capizzi, his staff, the CERT Team, and
COPS. He said there were about 3,000 people there. He said Habitat for
Humanity held a Raise the Roof fundraising event, and with the live
auction, they probably raised over $100,000. He went to the Florida
League of Cities meeting and is on the Transportation and Inter -
Governmental Relations Committee. He said they discussed the Charter
School issue of communities having the ability to make their own school
districts. They are putting together a sub -committee on Schools, Charter
Schools, and he will be on that committee. He asked about the Dog Park
water station.
Mr. Capizzi said the water station will occur this fiscal year.
Commissioner Sackett mentioned that he saw a truck spraying for
mosquitoes in his neighborhood. He asked how many empty spaces does
the City have on State Road 434, and what is being done to promote these
spaces. He presented letters to Interim Chief Dowda written by children
thanking the police for what they do to help everyone.
District N. Commissioner Maingot said we have a Longwood Caroling
Group that visits all the healthcare facilities in the City and ending at the
hospital. He is working out the date for that group. He wants to include
the Commissioners, City Manager and City Clerk this year. He also wants
to include the Police Department, Fire Department, COPS, Elected
Officials and City Staff to do three songs on December 2nd at the
Christmas Tree Lighting. He wants to include any instruments that people
can play, such as guitars and violins. He received a letter from David
Levitt regarding the Police Department and speed control. The letter
mentioned that the police should not hide to do speed control. He stated
his frustration with people not obeying the speed limit in the City. He said
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Ronald Reagan Boulevard is like a racetrack and also Rangeline Road. He
stated that he appreciates the job the Police Officers are doing in the City
regarding speed control for the safety of the people. He attended
Congressman Mica's Service Academy Breakfast on November 71h at 8:00
a.m. which highlighted the United States Naval Academy and their career
opportunities available for high school students. He said it was mentioned
that the entire district has about two candidates, and Longwood has nine
candidates. He stated he will go see Mitch Cohen, General Manager with
the Sanford Orlando Kennel Club and gave him advice on landscaping.
He attended the Council of Local Governments in Seminole County
(CALNO) meeting and also went to the Habitat for Humanity Raise the
Roof Event. He said Harry Barley with MetroPlan Orlando stated this
year, the City of Longwood is the fastest growing city in Seminole
County.
District #2. Mayor Durso said regarding the speeders in the neighborhood
mentioned, he agrees people need to comply with controlling their speed
especially in residential areas. He said there was a great turnout at the
Service Academy Breakfast this morning, and it was pointed out to that
Longwood has between nine and fifteen people. He said Congressman
Mica is very selective on these applicants, and regularly has nine to fifteen
people who attend the United States Military Academy, United States
Naval Academy, United States Air Force Academy, and the Merchant
Marine Academy. He stated Congressman Mica outpaces many other
districts. He said a number of them come from Lyman High School, a
point of pride for us. He said he is on the Florida League of Cities Energy
Environmental Natural Resources Committee, so water is something he
has been paying a great deal of attention to. He said it is probably the
most pressing issue we face. He said we are over -permitted in Central
Florida and is a significant problem for us. He said we are currently
pulling 800 million gallons a day from the aquafer and we are permitted
for 1.1 billion gallons a day from the aquafer. He said he wanted people
to understand the way they vote and stated the reason he voted for the
water meter item was he has been looking at it for three years, it has a
performance bond, and he is not interested in waiting for new technology.
If we wait, we will always be waiting for new technology. He said some
of the guarantees provided in that contract make him comfortable and it is
a stop loss for us, it is a different kind of debt for us, and with the
performance guarantees, make him comfortable enough to support it. He
met with the Lyman High School Principal, Mike Rice, who invited the
community to a series of events, the first being an Open Engineering Fair
on Wednesday evening. He said on Friday, Veterans Day they will be
having a ceremony in the morning. He said on Saturday afternoon they
are hosting a Clean -Up on Campus; they will be doing painting, re -
flowing of plant beds, and a few others things and appreciate any help
from the Commission or Community. He mentioned the passing of a City
employee and wanted everyone to keep the family in their thoughts as we
move into the holiday season.
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District #3. Commissioner Paris said he also attended the Habitat for
Humanity Event, which was unique and nice that they held it in
Longwood. He said it was nice that they mentioned the growth in
Longwood and that they met the families moving to Longwood in the
Habitat homes. He said he is on the Urban Administration Committee for
the Florida League of Cities, and we are going to be focusing on the
Public Records Requests as opposed to fraudulent and malicious requests
that have become a cottage industry in Florida.
District #4. Deputy Mayor Weller said he also wanted to speak about the
speeders and speed control, especially on Longwood Hills Road, which is
not working. He said the road is extremely dangerous. He agrees with the
Mayor that water is a real big issue. He voted no on the water meter item
because in twenty years, technology will have changed, and he did not
want to get committed for that long.
9. ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA
Commissioner Maingot requested that Items 1 OC, 1 OD and 10I be pulled
for separate discussion.
Mayor Durso stated that Item 12A was requested to be removed from the
agenda.
Items pulled and removed by a unanimous voice vote.
10. CONSENT AGENDA
A. Approve Minutes of the October 17, 2016 Regular Meeting.
B. Approve the Monthly Expenditures for September 2016 and
October 2016.
C. Approval of a non-exclusive H&R Block Employer Solutions
Promotion Agreement for tax preparation.
D. Approval of a purchase order in the amount of $40,000 to
Bound Tree Medical for the purchase of medical supplies.
E. Approval of a purchase order in the amount of $31,500 to
McDirmit, Davis & Co. for the fiscal year 2016 annual audit,
which is year two of a multi -year contract.
F. Approval of a purchase order in the amount of $99,869.12 to
SS Solutions, LLC for the contractual services provided by
Richard Kornbluh.
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G. Approval of a purchase order in the amount of $1,183,535.81
to Centfhl Florida Environmental Corporation for the Florida
Central Parkway Roadway Paving Project and approve a
purchase order to Preferred Materials in the amount of
$456,440.20 for related construction materials to be utilized via
a direct purchase program implemented as a cost savings to
the City.
H. Approval of a purchase order in the amount of $3,126,044.55
to Central Florida Environmental Corporation for the Church
Avenue Roadway Paving Project and approve a purchase
order to Preferred Materials in the amount of $265,188.00 for
related construction materials to be utilized via a direct
purchase program implemented as a cost savings to the City.
I. Approval of a non-exclusive agreement with Dignity Memorial
to provide funeral benefit discounts to City of Longwood
employees.
Commissioner Sackett moved to approve Items I OA, 1 OB,
IOE, I OF, IOG and 1 OH. Seconded by Commissioner
Maingot and carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
Discussion ensued on Item IOC.
Mayor Durso moved to remove Items 1 OC and 10I and task
the City Manager with developing a protocol to handle
these types of requests where a vender is offering discounts
to employees and for the City Manager to enter into non-
exclusive contracts. Seconded by Commissioner Sackett
and carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
Discussion ensued on Item 1 OD. Interim Fire Chief Peters
answered questions from the Commission.
Commissioner Maingot moved to approved Item 1 OD as
presented. Seconded by Commissioner Paris and carried
by a unanimous roll call vote.
11. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Read by title only and adopt Ordinance No. 16-2094, which
allows fast food restaurants with drive-thrus directly adjacent
to the intersection of Ronald Reagan Boulevard (C.R. 427) and
State Road 434.
Mr. Langley read Ordinance No. 16-2094 by title only.
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Mr. Kintner went over the Item and said following the discussion
at the first public hearing, the applicant suggested some changes to
the proposed language that would allow fast food restaurants with
drive-thrus. He listed the changes and said this was to address
concerns about ensuing the design and is similar to what the
applicant has shown, should they move forward, this is something
they could be held to.
Mayor Durso opened the public hearing.
Ms. Karen Consalo, 836 N. Highland Avenue, Orlando, spoke in
favor of the Ordinance. She stated also present was Mr. Mike
Palmer, Director of Facilities and the President of Luihn Foods,
Mr. Al Luihn. She said this is really about the text language itself,
not the development of the site. She said we want to provide the
Board with all the assurances of excellent architecture, excellent
site design and excellent landscaping. She said we think this text
amendment holds our feet to the fire, or anyone, as far as superior
design, streetscaping, and landscaping architecture. She said we
felt putting in language comparable to the Longwood Historic
Code would add a higher level of certainty, because those code
standards are very well defined. She said we felt all along it would
be a tribute to the historic nature of Longwood. She said that is
why we went to the Longwood Historic District Regulations. She
said we are not bound to this language. She said we think it is
great and will get a really nice development on that site, but we are
open to suggestions on this language. She said we took a bit of
time to do a traffic study. She said we had Z Development
Services prepare a traffic letter for us because that was an issue at
the last hearing. She stated this site, even with the drive-thru, is
only going to add about 200 trips.
Commissioner Maingot said he would be happy to give advice on
what material to use to hide the cars going through the drive thru.
He advised the entry/exit that goes onto State Road 434 is shared
with Ace Hardware.
No one else spoke in favor or opposition to Ordinance No. 16-
2094.
Commissioner Sackett moved to close the public hearing.
Seconded by Commissioner Maingot and carried by a
unanimous voice vote.
Commissioner Maingot moved to adopt Ordinance No. 16-
2094 as presented Item I IA. Seconded by Commissioner
Paris and carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
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B. Read by title only and adopt Ordinance No. 16-2102, annexing
and amending the corporate limits of the City of Longwood to
fulfill an application for annexation for a property located on
Nicole Lane.
Mr. Langley read Ordinance No. 16-2102 by title only.
Mr. Kintner reviewed the Item.
Mayor Durso opened the public hearing. No one spoke in favor or
opposition to Ordinance No. 16-2102.
Commissioner Sackett moved to close the public hearing.
Seconded by Commissioner Maingot and carried by a
unanimous roll call vote.
Commissioner Maingot moved to adopt Ordinance No. 16-
2102 as presented Item I IB. Seconded by Commissioner
Paris and carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
C. City Commission to hear a public request for Special
Exception (SPE 05-16) to allow a three (3) story building at
1460 North Ronald Reagan Boulevard.
Mr. Langley stated this is a quasi-judicial matter and anyone
wishing to speak on behalf or in opposition to this agenda item is
requested to stand and be sworn in. He said if you have not
already done so, please complete the form Request to Speak at a
public hearing and return to the City Clerk. He said the applicant
may have the right to cross examine anyone who speaks for or
against the item and those who speak have the right to cross
examine the applicant. He then swore in those wishing to speak.
Mr. Langley said at this time it is appropriate for the
Commissioners to disclose any ex-parte communication they may
have had.
Commissioner Sackett said he had about ten letters and said he
would see them at tonight's meeting.
Commissioner Weller said he has spoken to Dr. Singh, Home
Owners Association (HOA) President, and multiple residents as
well as staff.
Commissioner Maingot said he has spent time with Mr. Kintner
today going through details about this, and has received many
letters from people.
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Mayor Durso said he has spoken with staff, HOA President, has
received a number of emails today, which he has not responded to,
but has received and returned a number of emails earlier.
Commissioner Paris said he has not spoken to the applicant, but
has spoken to staff, and received a number of emails which he has
not responded to.
Mr. Langley read the Item and stated staff would give their
presentation.
Mr. Kintner said he wanted to clarify the Special Exception Public
Hearing process. He said the Special Exception request is related
to a separate site plan application for a 12-unit condominium
project proposed by Dr. Singh at 1460 N. Ronald Reagan
Boulevard. He said the applicant is requesting a Special Exception
to a section of City Code that limits the height to two stories along
this portion of Ronald Reagan Boulevard. He said it has a zoning
category of infill and mixed use, which is a broad zoning category
with a lot of general commercial uses, but also, mixed uses and
residential uses. He said they have had two Citizen Awareness and
Participation Plan (CAPP) meetings. He said those are our
neighborhood meetings regarding this project, with the most recent
being on October 25th. He said it is important to separate the
project itself from the Special Exception. He talked about the
project itself, exclusive of the Special Exception. The applicant
submitted a site plan for a condominium project. With the zoning
that this property carries, which is infill and mixed use, multi-
family dwellings are an allowable use, which means
condominiums, townhomes and apartments are allowable. Those
are uses that are considered "by right", meaning the applicant can
have them as long as they meet the other standards of the
Longwood Development Code (LDC). He said forgetting the
Special Exception, the applicant could submit a project that met all
the standards of the LDC, including the height, and it could be any
of the projects listed above for multi -family also including offices.
He said it could be reviewed entirely at the staff level and
approved entirely at the staff level so we would not have to have
this hearing unless the Commission specifically called for it. In
that instance, the review is to see whether the applicant meets the
LDC. He said he wants to make clear to the residents the
discussions tonight are going to be about very specific issues, and
he does not want that to be interpreted as any kind of prejudice
against the project itself, because the project is an allowable use,
and it is the applicant's burden to meet the LDC. He said it is also
consistent with the Comprehensive Plan, which calls for a higher
density zoning on the corridors. He said State Road 434, County
Road 427 and U.S. Highway 17-92 carry higher densities to
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promote the things that Smart Growth America told us about, and
us wanting to see people using SunRail. He said it is consistent
with the general vision and the policies and largely consistent with
the LDC, although it is currently in site plan review and does have
outstanding comments. He said separate of the site plan, the
applicant has submitted a Special Exception. He said such
exceptions allow you under certain standards, allow the City
Commission to grant a Special Exception to certain elements of the
Code. He said the limited discussion tonight is a Special
Exception to allow the building to go from two stories to three
stories. This is not a discussion on whether the applicant can do
these multi -family condos because that is already established as
part of the zoning category. He said we could not entertain a
statement saying, we don't want the project. Currently, the
applicant is allowed two stories, which under the LDC is a ground
floor up to sixteen (16) feet and a second floor up to fourteen (14)
feet, with a minimum height of thirty (30) feet plus a roof. He said
the Code does not call out a specific height for roofs. The
applicant is proposing a three story building, including a roof, with
a total height of thirty-four (34) feet and ten (10) inches. He said
at the last CAPP meeting there were a number of concerns
mentioned, one of which was the unit sizes. He said they were
listed as 960 square feet and another at 1,060 square feet. They
were at the low end of what you would see for a condominium,
which would lead them to potentially become rental units, which
was a concern also. He said there was a concern about the lack of
amenities. It doesn't have a pool or a gym and again, concerns it
would turn into a rental property. He said people wanted to know
what the applicant could be held to. The answer is we can hold
them to whatever the Code minimums are in the LDC. He said the
residents were not happy with the project as a whole and wanted
assurances that what they were seeing was what they were actually
going to get. There was another concern about negative impact on
property values. He said that is not a clear answer. The question
has to be whether the Special Exception creates a negative impact
on property values. He said this increase from the second to the
third story has a fairly minimal impact, given the heights are
relatively the same. He said another concern was having this
project at the gateway to the City limits. These were the concerns
he heard most often. He said the Commission shall consider the
following criteria while making their determination, although it
does not require the project to meet all those criteria, the
Commission shall include it as part of their discussion. That the
request is consistent with the spirit and intent of the Code. It will
provide equal or better results than required by the Code. The
resulting development is consistent with Comp Plan and other City
adopted planning documents. The granting of Special Exception
will not diminish property values of the area surrounding the site.
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The request represents the minimum modification if necessary, and
essentially, the condition is something unique to this site and is not
something that is replicable with all process being there. He said
the applicant has a number of arguments in favor of the
application. He said the one that staff really focused on was the
topography of the site being a unique characteristic, the site slopes
in a couple of different places, and is not as developable as if the
site were completely flat. He said what we found was the actual
impact of the Special Exception was very minimal, given the
allowed use of height. He said staff's recommendation was trying
to include the concerns that have been expressed. He stated the
applicant said the building would be concrete block construction,
and an elevator would be included as part of the project. The
second and third floors would have balconies, there would be four
additional parking spaces, screening would be along the rear
property lines, and a lift station would be screened by a PVC or
similar quality fence. He said the applicant agreed to address a
concern that twenty-five (25%) percent of the units be required to
be owner -occupied for one year, and the building should not
exceed thirty-five (35) feet in height. He said staff wanted the
Commission to realize they are concerned about the fact the
residents do have concerns about the project, and wanted to
incorporate that in staff s recommendation.
Commissioner Sackett questioned the request in regards to where it
states it represents the minimum modification necessary and is not
primarily driven by financial considerations. He said it sounds like
it is, and asked Mr. Kintner to explain if they build a two story, it is
not cost feasible in its current form.
Mr. Kintner said when we adopted that language, the concern was
that people use a Special Exception to take things out of the
project. He said in this situation, the applicant is essentially doing
more of an investment in the project; but the applicant did say that
this additional story makes the project cost feasible for him.
Commissioner Sackett asked if this Special Exception is not
granted can he do a two story project.
Mr. Kintner said he could do it if he found it to be cost feasible.
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Mayor Durso stated he has a number of speaker cards and there are
no time limits. He asked them to respect the time, not to repeat
what other speakers have already said, there is to be no booing,
clapping, cheering, no hissing, and no one should feel insulted or ,
afraid to voice their opinions.
Mr. Langley said we should let the applicant present first.
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Dr. Singh, and developer of the said he has his
owner project,
realtor and civil engineer with him tonight. He said this project is
12 units, and we have increased the size of the units to 1,200
square feet from about 900 square feet before, with balconies
included. He said this also gives us twenty-five (25) parking
spaces, which is more than required by City Code. He said we are
planning to build this building with concrete block to give it more
durable construction and value to potential buyers. He said at the
CAPP meeting, it was asked to be friendly to elderly folks, so we
provided an elevator. He said we are going with a metal roof,
which will last longer and is more durable. He said we are
planning to sound proof the building, windows and doors. Safety
and security will be accomplished with the quality of construction
and being up to City Codes. He said his goal is to make this
affordable and a three story would look better because of the
height situation. The site is lower than the street and will have
better curb appeal than a low, two story building. He showed a
slide for the underground system for stormwater, which gave them
more room to increase the size of the units. His realtor, Maryann,
said the value of $132 a square foot is consistent with the
neighborhood, which is selling for $134 a square foot in the last six
months, with $127 a square foot last year. She said the Palermo
Vista luxury condos are selling for $109 per square foot and are at
about 3,300 square feet.
Dr. Singh said this project would create more tax income for the
City as well as construction jobs and will benefit local businesses
with more people moving in to the area. He feels this will attract
younger people. He showed slides of the area surrounding the
property and stated he has a business right next to this property.
Discussion ensued and questions about the project were asked by
the Commission. One concern brought up was related to the
potential of the units becoming rentals.
Dr. Singh said he wants to build a good product. He said we have
added an elevator, underground water and good parking spaces.
He said we will landscape to make it look good to the community.
He said we will try to have 100 percent ownership if possible.
Deputy Mayor Weller asked Mr. Langley how they can guarantee
that the HOA would limit the amount of rentals.
Mr. Langley said what we could do, if the applicant agrees, is they
can generate a covenant document that gives the City
enforceability of a particular provision in the set of covenants, and
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requires that provision could not be terminated or amended without
the City's consent. He stated he has done this before.
Mayor Durso opened the public hearing and the following people
spoke.
Mr. Steven Justice, 108 Citrus Tree Lane, Longwood spoke in
opposition. He said he has reviewed the plans at length. He is
Secretary/Treasurer of the Longwood Green HOA, has had
discussions with numerous residents and they are opposed. He
said not because it is a three story building, but because of the
effect it will have, not being in the spirit of the covenant, which is
creating properties that are alike and in keeping with the
community. He said if you go up in the air thirty-five (35) feet,
you can see people's backyards and you add a balcony to it, you
can see that. He also heard the comment that millennials want a
place close to a SunRail station. He said SunRail's ridership is
drastically down right now. He said as a parent to a millennial, my
kids greatest ambition is to own their own home with a yard and a
swimming pool, not an apartment. He said it seems we are trying
to take a square peg and shove it into a round hole any way
possible to try to get this project to work. He said with the
complete opposition of my neighbors in both developments and
that it would not be keeping with the community. He said the price
of square feet is applicable to Heathrow and other places, however,
the square feet is not applicable. He said people don't want to be
in a 1,000 square foot property long term unless they can flip that
property and make some money off of it. He said there are
numerous studies that will back me up with that. He stated, ask
yourselves what kind of community do we want Longwood to be.
He said this is a gateway to our City. He said we have over 30,000
cars going down Ronald Reagan Boulevard every morning, that
figure was from 2014. He said back in 2014 there was an article in
the Orlando Sentinel where the City of Longwood's Community
Development Manager said they wanted to create a main street
environment in Longwood. I can see the efforts being made
downtown along Church Street. He said what if we took this
project and plopped it right in the middle of Church Street. Would
it be in keeping with the community, or would you have an uproar
from those residents because it was not in keeping with the
community standards. He said I think that is what you have to ask
yourselves here, and have to take some consideration for the
people that are going to be affected by this.
Ms. Sherry Rosefelt, 278 Blackwater Place, Longwood spoke in
opposition. She said she is asking to not allow this waiver. She
wanted to address that there are no garages and picture twenty-five
(25) parking spaces, young people in the back talking and noise.
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She said I am on Blackwater Place and hear the dogs barking all
the time. She said I don't have a problem with that but add
twenty-four (24) new families, there will be a lot of noise. She
said she is still concerned about her property value because as one
of the Commissioners said, they may be priced like Heathrow, but
they are not Heathrow. She said is this what you want leading into
the Historic City of Longwood. She said I have one more thing,
and I am not sure I am allowed to say this. But I want to address
this to Commissioner Sackett. She said I want to remind you when
Blackadar Insurance Agency went in, I was one of the big
objectors. She said we weren't objecting to the buildings, we just
wanted a wall to separate it from Blackwater Place.
Mr. Jerrold Collins, 120 Citrus Tree Lane, Longwood spoke in
opposition. He said he is on the HOA Architectural Review
Board. He said the majority of the land is down in a ditch.. He said
he has been in the HOA since 1987 and everything is done real
fine. He had some reservations when Palermo Vista went in, but
they did an excellent job. He said when they built the wall at
Palermo Vista, where do you think all the water runs off to. He
said it runs off into the backyards of Blackwater Place. He said
there was also a sink hole associated with that in that area. He said
there was a wall erected, and when it floods, the water seeps
through that wall. He said that is what I see with this property we
are discussing, if he puts in a concrete wall and if they don't
maintain that, the water is going to rush off County Road 427
through that property then through the wall and flood the back
area.
Mr. Charles Crowder, 267 Blackwater Place, Longwood spoke in
opposition. He is concerned about transient living. He said he
totally agrees with Deputy Mayor Mark Weller's comments. He
said if you walk down the sidewalk and look down an approximate
thirty (30) degree incline, he is trying to picture a three story
building setting down in there. He said in his opinion, this does
not set with him very well. He said I don't think it will increase
my property value, so the only way I have to go is down. That is
his big concern along with the transient problem.
Ms. Cynthia Pickard, 236 W. Long Creek Cove, Longwood was
not present and her speaker form indicates she was going to speak
in opposition to this Item.
Mr. Ron Hernquist, 237 W. Long Creek Cove, Longwood spoke in
opposition. He said he thinks it is a shame when they widened
County Road 427 that this lot got cut off quite a bit and has limited
the lot size. He is opposed to the Special Exception for three
stories. He has heard some numbers tonight like ten (10) foot
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ceilings, and the construction will be closer to forty (40) feet. He
said he does not know of any three story buildings along Ronald
Reagan Boulevard past us or south of State Road 434. He said
why we are allowing an exception for a residential project facing
right on Ronald Reagan Boulevard, I think is a mistake. He said
the only residential properties are a couple of houses north of us
with big lots that have a lake behind them. He said pretty much
everything south of us has been converted to an upholstery place or
some kind of business. He said Dr. Singh has a business there, so
another business there would be fine. He said regardless if it is
eight (8) or twelve (12) units, I think it is setting itself up for
failure. He said I am a realtor and have been one since 1980 and
am still active. He said I have bought two places, not Heathrow or
Notting Hill, which has tons of amenities, but Center Place
Condos, which is in Altamonte Springs on Montgomery Road
where Central Parkway dead ends into it. He said there is a total of
twelve (12) units there with no amenities. He said they fell apart
quickly because you can't maintain anything that small with condo
dues or HOA dues. He said some of the sales in the past few years
have been for a high of $61,100 and a low of $25,000, $35,000,
$45,000, and $55,000. He said that is what they are selling for
currently because no one wants to live there. He said there is one
tenant in there, month to month and is looking for an investor to
buy it. He said we have Lake Brantley Schools and Lake Mary
Schools, and it is a failure. He said the second one he bought is
right off Sand Lake Road in Lakeview Gardens in Wekiva Cove.
He said there are only eight (8) units at 1,700 and 1,800 square feet
with no amenities, but do face a lake, and have a detached garage
building. He said sales in there recently are at $94,900, $87,500,
$80,000, and they are not concrete. He is happy Dr. Singh is going
to build with concrete because siding will fall off or blow off. He
heard Dr. Singh said he would sell them for $160,000, which
would amount to under $2 million. He does not see how he could
build it for less than $2 million dollars, he is not going to give
them away. He said a lot of lenders are still not lending on condos.
He said all condos have a rental limit before the lenders just won't
finance. He also heard a condo fee of $100 a month, which is
$1,200 a month for the whole complex. He said I heard no
mention of reserves for roofs or painting, because when you own a
condo, you only own the paint inside, your counters, appliances
and furnishings. He said the rest is maintained by the
condominium, all outside painting, repairs, roofs and parking lots.
He does not know where the reserves would come from. He said
he would want the City Attorney to look into that because there has
to be reserves set up. He said it will turn into a rental almost
instantly. He said the fact that there are no amenities doesn't have
to be bad, but when I hear comments of comparing it to Notting
Hill and other places, they have tons of amenities. He said that
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was a condo conversion. He said he remembers Blackadar and the
main reason for the wall, which a lot of homeowners forgot about,
was not only the looks, water retention and view, but they had
wanted to use our entrance to have access to their place. He said
that is why there is a wall. He said there will be twenty-four (24)
cars in there, and they will be trying to get out onto Ronald Reagan
Boulevard next to the existing subdivision and Blackadar, that will
be a lot of traffic. He stated the lot used to be a lot bigger. He said
something could go there, but he does not see a high rise, even two
stories, because of the feasibility for Dr. Singh. He stated it won't
work.
Ms. JoAnna Carlini, 158 Citrus Tree Lane, Longwood spoke in
opposition. She stated she is not in favor of the Special Exception.
She is a realtor and lives in Longwood Green. She said to have 12
small condos in such a small space is what she objects to. She said
the square footage, no amenities, small parking area, tight access
getting in and out of there, is not going with the growth of the
community and adjacent property. She stated she owns a condo in
Winter Park, and owners buying into that property cannot rent for
two years. She said that is prohibiting sales, so if you prohibit
sales, it is a failure, and if you let rentals after one year, that is a
failure also. She thinks it will turn into rentals because of no
amenities. She asked, where will you put the pool, will you
eliminate more parking, and will you change the elevation of the
community to have walkways for the elevator. She does not think
it is a good plan the way it sets now.
Mr. Sammy Sarmiento, 281 E. Long Creek Cove, Longwood
spoke in opposition. He said he is the new kid on the block, been
there for two years. He said he has been a construction manager
and has been in construction for 15 years. He is also a construction
consultant for two firm's one in Naples and one here locally and
reviews a lot of documents and plans. He said after he reviewed
Dr. Singh's plans, he consulted with some of his co-workers and
architects and we all agree upon certain facts that will take place
with this proposal. He said the most important is expectation for
privacy of each homeowner in Blackwater. He said with a balcony
view, as a homeowner, I would be concerned for expectation of
privacy in your backyard. He said another concern is the entrance
to the property. He said because of the elevation of where it
stands, it would be an upward or downward entrance. It would be
difficult to get out of there with early morning or evening traffic
because of where it is located coming out of that location. He said
with everything he has heard so far, it sounds as if it could be a flip
over to a rental. He said it would be a low income rental before we
know it, and as a homeowner in the area, I would be very
concerned. He said one thing no one has mentioned is if the
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Commission allowed the exception to go forward, it will start a
precedent to future construction in the area. He said that concerns
me as a citizen that will change the outlook of what the actual City
of Longwood is today with the architectural harmony. He said by
allowing this building where it is in such a small area, it will be a
highlighted structure in the middle of something that does not
belong.
Mr. David Dieska, 121 Citrus Tree Lane, Longwood spoke in
opposition. He said he lives in Longwood Green and is the
President of Longwood Green Homeowners Association (HOA),
which includes Longwood Green and The Oaks of Longwood
Green. He said The Oaks has an entrance directly adjacent to the
proposed project, so he is getting a lot of concerns from
homeowners that live on that side. He is also getting concerns
from Longwood Green homeowners, who feel they are impacted
by this project. He said on this matter he happens to represent
about 400 of the Commission constituents, many of whom have
asked me to voice their concerns about this proposed project and
how it negatively impacts them in several areas. He said one area
is quality of life. He said they feel that there are concerns of
privacy with a three story building overlooking a lot of homes that
are behind this project. He said another area is noise. He said
there will be a lot of additional noise, this not a nine to five
business. He said another area is parking. He said everybody has
a car, so there will be in excess of twenty-four (24) cars, especially
when someone has a parry. He stated, where do they park. He
said the last issue dealing with quality, is quality of community.
He said Longwood always seems to promote the idea that this is a
quaint, little, Victorian -style community; the downtown at least.
He said high density condos right up against Ronald Reagan
Boulevard at the north gateway into the community paints a
different picture when you see that as soon as you enter the
community. He said there was a discussion about fifty (50%)
percent occupancy. He said the applicant seems to be very sure of
himself with regard to these being high -end condos that are very
salable. He has pushed back on the notion of these becoming
rentals, probably sooner than later. He said one of the
Commissioners talked about fifty (50%) percent and a limit
associated with the condo association documents, but if the
applicant is so sure of himself, why not make that a twenty (20%)
percent if he is so sure these are going to be owner -occupied units.
He said he reviewed the City Manager's recommendations and his
recommendation is based upon the input from his planning
department, who spoke earlier with regard to LDC 9.3.3, which are
the Special Exception criteria, and he believes the recommendation
is flawed. He does not think it meets the criteria requirements. He
has twice emailed all five Commissioners with the HOA Board of
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Directors' response with regard to that, believing it is flawed. He
said he is disappointed that he has only heard from two of them.
He has asked for a dialog with all of the Commissioners, and only
two responded. He said it appears from the developer's
application that his primary reason for asking for a Special
Exception is that a two story building sitting in a hole would look
odd. He said there is nothing else stated in his request as to why a
Special Exception is required. He can build a two story building
now if he follows the City Code. He said there is nothing to stop
him from doing that and nothing that impairs his ability to do that.
He stated the developer says building a two story is not feasible.
He said granting a Special Exception in this case would open up
the floodgates for other developers. He said there is nothing
special about this property or nothing that prevents it from being
built. He said fill up the hole with dirt and build it. He said the
developer has stated he wants to install luxury condos, but you
really cannot install granite countertops and stainless steel
appliances, upgrade the carpet and declare these are upscale luxury
condos. He said you cannot expect everyone to buy into that
notion. He said I have seen the site plans and floor plans and they
are really glorified apartments, and has all the hallmarks of being a
rental condo complex. He said the location is terrible right next to
Ronald Reagan Boulevard, it is not one of the nicer locations with
real amenities and he feels parking is not an amenity. He said the
structure is sitting twenty (20) feet from a major highway and has
all the hallmarks of being an apartment -like building. He said the
words affordable housing were used by the applicant, which is
code for low income housing. He said based on the feedback from
our homeowners, they don't want low income housing at the
gateway to Longwood. He said that is why there is so much
pushback on this. He said our homeowners are disappointed in the
proposed design also in the utilitarian design, lending itself to the
appearance of a large, monolithic building without attractive
character. He said a two-story eight unit building not feeling like a
community, and that is why we need four more units, does not
seem like that is a reason for a Special Exception. He said there is
very little green space. He stated, Longwood Green is a private
community and we would not open up our green space for dog
walkers or recreation walking through our community by non -
association members. He said they would not be welcome in our
private community. He said the City's conclusion on positive
impact on surrounding residential property was purely conjecture
and lacked any real supporting data from licensed professionals,
such as property appraisers and realtors. He said there is no
supporting data. He stated the Commission has received emails
from concerned homeowners regarding this project. He asked if
any of the Commission would want this project built next to your
entrance.
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Dr. Sinah said he has covered most of the things mentioned and
has nothing else to say.
Commissioner Maingot moved to close the public hearing.
Seconded by Commissioner Sackett and motion carried by
a unanimous voice vote.
Commissioner Paris moved to grant the Special Exception
to allow a three story building on North Ronald Reagan
Boulevard with the caveat that the City Attorney draw up a
Home Owners Association (HOA) Charter that states there
must be at least a twenty-five (25%) percent owner
occupancy that cannot be removed without the City
Commission approval. His motion also covers all the staff
recommendations to approve SPE 05-16 due to unique
topographical characteristics of the site as called for in
LDC 9.3.1, with the following conditions consistent with
LDC 9.3.4 to make the special exception more consistent
with the spirit and intent of the code: The building will be
completed in concrete block construction, exceeding
Florida Building Code requirements which would
otherwise allow wood frame construction; The project will
also include an elevator as required; The building shall not
exceed 35 total feet in height (at 16 feet plus two stories of
14 feet, a three-story building could be 44' excluding roof
height); The second and third floor units will have
balconies; Additional screening will be provided along the
rear property lines in the form of a 36" at planting height
continuous shrub line, exceeding the required 24" at
planting; The lift station shall be screened from view by an
opaque PVC or similar quality fence in addition to the
required Buffer A; 25% (3 of 12) of the units will be
required to be owner -occupied for one year; The applicant
will provide no fewer than 24 parking spaces, higher than
the 21 required by Code. Seconded by Commissioner
Maingot.
Commissioner Sackett said twenty-five (25%) percent owner -
occupancy is too low and is not acceptable and would want fifty
(50%) percent.
Commissioner Paris amended his motion to increase the
twenty-five (251/o) owner -occupancy to fifty (50%) percent
owner -occupancy. Seconded by Commissioner Maingot.
Mr. Langley asked if the owner would agree with that condition.
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Dr. Singh said he agrees with that condition.
Motion carried by a three to two (3-2) roll call vote with
Mayor Durso and Commissioner Weller voting nay.
12. REGULAR BUSINESS
A. City Commission to hear a request from Delanie Kansol to
mitigate a Code Enforcement Lien in the amount of $11,200 on
the property located at 1120 West State Road 434.
Item was removed from the Agenda.
B. City Commission to consider extending the term of the City
Hall Site Evaluation Ad Hoc Committee to December 31, 2017.
Commissioner Sackett moved to approve Item 12B as
presented. Seconded by Commissioner Maingot and
carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
C. Consider waiving all the rental fees at the Longwood
Community Building for Mrs. Abby Shoemaker.
Commissioner Paris moved to approve Item 12D as
presented. Seconded by Commissioner Sackett and carried
by a unanimous roll call vote.
13. CITY MANAGER'S REPORT
Mr. Williams said beginning November 18t' he will be out of the country
on vacation and Troy Hickson and Craig Dunn will be points of contact.
14. CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT
Mr. Langley said he looked into the SunRail crossing issue the City is
having. He said he did more research and has some more options. He
said there is the political option of meeting with folks at Florida
Department of Transportation (FDOT) and trying to resolve it that way.
He said we can send a more formal, written request for attention and
action to be taken by the FDOT to solve this problem. He said another
option if the Commission wanted to go legal on this, after the written
notice to correct this, there could be a legal challenge to FDOT regulations
they have adopted by reference of federal requirements concerning the
gate operations. He said there is also something in the Code that talks
about blocking an intersection for more than five minutes is prohibited.
Mayor Durso made a motion that directs the City Attorney and
City Manager to entertain conversations with the FDOT and send a
follow up letter to them, and both the City Attorney and City
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Manager should meet with each Commissioner individually to
discuss the legal options, both positive and negative. Seconded by
Commissioner Sackett.
Discussion ensued.
Motion carries by a unanimous voice vote.
15. CITY CLERK'S REPORT
A. With the cancelling of the second meeting in November, the
annual rotation of the Deputy Mayor will be moved to the
December 5, 2016 Regular City Commission Meeting.
Mayor Durso moved the annual rotation of the Deputy
Mayor to the December 5, 2016 meeting. Motion carried
by a unanimous voice vote.
B. Consider cancelling the January 2, 2017 Regular City
Commission Meeting.
Mayor Durso moved to cancel the January 2, 2017 meeting.
Seconded by Commissioner Paris and motion carried by a
unanimous voice vote.
16. ADJOURN. Mayor Durso adjourned the meeting at 9:45 p.m.
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