CC01-08-2018Min_SMLONGWOOD CITY COMMISSION
Longwood City Commission Chambers
175 West Warren Avenue
Longwood, Florida
SPECIAL MEETING
MINUTES
January 8, 2018
3:30 P.M.
Present: Mayor Ben Paris
Deputy Mayor Richard Drummond
Commissioner Abby Shoemaker
Commissioner Matt Morgan
Commissioner Brian D. Sackett
Dan Langley, City Attorney
Jon C. Williams, City Manager
Michelle Longo, City Clerk
David Dowda, Police Chief
Michael Peters, Fire Chief
Lee Ricci, Human Resources Director
Chris Capizzi, Leisure Services Director
Lisa Snead, Financial Services Director
Tom Smith, Division Manager Streets
Richard Kornbluh, Division Manager Utilities
Greg Kirby, Purchasing Manager
Trisha Fuston, PayrolUHR Coordinator
Magdala Ridore, Human Resources Generalist
1. CALL TO ORDER. Mayor Paris called the meeting to order at 3:30 p.m.
2. DISCUSSION AND CONSIDER APPOINTMENT OF
ACTING/INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND TAKE ACTION THE
COMMISSION DEEMS APPROPRIATE.
Mayor Paris stated we have our City Charter that gives us a guideline on
how to do this. He asked the City Manager if he had any thoughts or
recommendations.
Mr. Williams said he had conversations with Chief Dowda, and this is
certainly no reflection on any of the other department heads, but his tenure
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with the City, his support from the community;, I think he would be a good
Acting or Interim City Manager to assist you through the transition. He
said, as you know my last day of employment will be January 31, 2018,
and then I will transition to Professional Services capacity to assist with
transition assistance. I have a great working relationship with Chief
Dowda and will be able to assist him through that process as well.
Commissioner Sackett said he would like to make a motion upon hearing
that David Dowda is to become our Acting City Manager, and therefore,
understanding that, the position of Police Chief would be vacant. I would
like to further put Clint Gioielli in as the Acting Police Chief until the time
of transition is over.
Mr. Langley asked to separate those in two different actions. He said one
would be the Acting City Manager, and with respect to the Acting Police
Chief, I believe the City Manager has to appoint an Acting Police Chief
with confirmation by the Commission.
Commissioner Sackett said I don't want to be without an Acting Police
Chief either.
Mr. Langley said this appointment would not be effective today. It needs
to be effective on February 1, 2018'.
Commissioner Sackett made a motion to appoint Chief David
Dowda as the Acting City Manager effective February 1, 2018.
Seconded by Commissioner Morgan.
Mayor Paris said before he calls the roll, he would like to have Chief
Dowda come up and make sure he is comfortable about this and say a few
words.
Chief Dowda thanked the Commission and said, I am honored to get the
offer, and yes, I would accept it. He said I will work as hard and
diligently as I can to do the best job as I possibly can. I am sure Mr.
Williams will be there to assist me with any questions or anything that
may come up.
Mr. Langley stated as a reminder, the Charter provides that the Acting
City Manager's term not be more than 120 days, so the appointment
would be for 120 days. He said we haven't discussed per the motion, any
sort of agreement with Chief Dowda as to whether he wanted an
agreement when he is serving in the capacity as Acting City Manager, so I
will leave that up to you.
Motion carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
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Discussion ensued on the salary for the Acting City Manager. It was
noted that the salary for his position as Chief of Police still had to be
confirmed. The final agreement for the Acting City Manager, which
would include the salary, will come back for approval at the next
Commission Meeting. The appointment for an Acting Police Chief will
also be on the next Commission Meeting.
3. DISCUSSION AND CONSIDER COMMENCEMENT OF
PROCESS UNDER CITY CHARTER SECTION 4.04 FOR THE
APPOINTMENT OF CITY MANAGER; QUALIFICATIONS AND
COMPENSATION AND TAKE ACTION THE COMMISSION
DEEMS APPROPRIATE.
Mayor Paris said we have a guest in the audience today, a Senior Advisor
from the Florida City and County Management Association, who will give
us an idea how this board works and what you are going to be doing for
the City.
Mr. Dick Kelton, Senior Advisor with the Florida City and County
Management Association. Mr. Kelton said we used to be called Range
Riders, and some of you may remember the Range Riders assisting you
and your manager's selection previously. He said we are retired managers
who voluntarily provide assistance to managers, predominately in smaller
cities, and smaller cities looking for managers. We assist in the screening
process, we can assist you in developing your criteria for management,
and we can work with your staff in terms of putting together the
advertisements and where to place those ads. He said we can do as much
or as little as you want us to. He said he is familiar with the City Charter
provision, and understands you need a committee from us. He said I have
another Range Rider/Senior Advisor who is not too far away in Lake
County, and the two of us would be the two who would do the screening
for you. Beyond that, we would be available to do whatever you want us
to do in terms of the preliminary work. He noted what we do not do is
background checks. We will get you to a point of providing you with a
list of, usually about ten applicants, who we believe are qualified to be the
City Manager. From that point forward, the City Commission needs to
narrow that list down to a number that you want to interview and to make
your selection from those interviews. He said the list we give you will all
be qualified people and any one of them could come in here and be a City
Manager. He said your job, and this may be the most important decision
you make during your term of office, is to find the one of those eight or
ten finalists or semi-finalists who is the best fit for the City of Longwood.
It comes down to fit and who you can work with, who can work with you,
who can work with the City, understand the City and move the City
forward in the direction that you all want to take it.
Commissioner Sackett said he remembers him when he was a Range Rider
and welcomed him back. He asked if his search goes outside the State of
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Florida and would you look at comparable .city size in other states. He
also asked if the search stretches outside of Florida, what arrangements is
the City responsible for during the interview process.
Mr. Kelton said we would recommend that you advertise beyond the State
of Florida, generally placing the notice in the International City
Management Association Newsletter, which is published online every
other week, is sufficient. He said it will draw the most qualified
applicants more than any place else you could place an ad. If you are
going to advertise nationwide, then I recommend you be prepared to pay
expenses for folks you want to bring in to interview. He said it is
customary and normal in the business that anyone applying for a job
expects if you invite them to come in for an interview, you are going to
pay their expenses to get to you and while they are here.
Commissioner Morgan asked why they do not do the background checks.
Mr. Kelton said it is beyond our expertise. He said you are better
equipped with a police department and better equipped with some
companies that specialize in doing those kinds of background
investigations, but we are just not set up to do it.
Mayor Paris asked Mr. Kelton about the process. He said the City would
send out a notice, we would then receive applications, then we would turn
over the applications to your organization, and you would go through them
for us. Or, would we have the applications sent directly to you?
Mr. Kelton said what we generally do is have the applications transmitted
directly to the City to your Human Resources Director. He said we have
found it works very well if those applications are submitted electronically,
and then they can be forwarded on to myself and the other senior advisor
that will be working with me on it.
Mayor Paris asked if we reached out to a local City Manager, would you
be willing to have them work with you, such as someone that has a pulse
on Seminole or Orange County areas.
Mr. Kelton said he would. He said I am in Volusia County and close
enough to meet with anyone that you would like to be involved. He said I
am in the middle of doing the City of Palatka screening. Palatka is
working with a citizen screening committee. I have met with them once,
and the screening committee is actually going to interview on Thursday of
this week; and then submit a short list to the Commission Thursday
evening or Friday morning. He said it is a little different process, it is
whatever you are comfortable with.
Mr. Langley asked for the name of the individual he is suggesting to serve
on the selection committee with him.
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Mr. Kelton said yes, Mr. Bill Neron.
Mr. Langley asked if you would be willing to come to City Hall when you
are making a decision on the screening.
Mr. Kelton said he would. He said once we are a committee, we are
subject to Sunshine just like any other City appointed committee.
Mr. Langley suggested the Commission set up the screening committee of
Mr. Kelton and Mr. Neron, and if you had someone else that you are
thinking about, maybe a local City Manager.
Mayor Paris said he was going to suggest the Altamonte Springs City
Manager, Frank Martz.
Commissioner Sackett said he is not in favor of that. He would rather go
with the two and see what the screening process brings in and start our
process and go through it there.
Mr. Kelton said he put the email out to all of the senior advisors, Mr.
Neron is the closest one and he is available.
Mayor Paris said we would like this process to move forward as quickly as
possible.
Mr. Kelton said if there is a third senior advisor that is willing to
participate, I would be happy to come back to you and have him added to
the committee at a later date.
Mayor Paris stated we have our two names and asked the City Attorney if
there is anything else they need to do.
Mr. Langley said since we just got done talking about the screening
committee, if you want to go ahead and deal with that at this point and
make a motion to create and appoint a screening committee of the two
gentlemen, Dick Kelton and Bill Neron, Senior Advisors of the ICMA for
the City Manager Screening Process.
Commissioner Sackett moved to create and appoint a screening
committee of Dick Kelton and Bill Neron, Senior Advisors with
ICMA for the City Manager Screening Process. Seconded by
Commissioner Shoemaker and carried by a unanimous roll call
vote.
Mr. Langley said he thinks we need to do an advertisement of some sort in
maybe multiple venues. He said there needs to be a description of what
the position is, salary range, and Mr. Kelton can give you his
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recommendations on where and what it should say and how to get the best
qualified people to submit for the job.
Mr. Kelton said he has also suggested the Commission spend a little time
discussing what specific qualities you are looking for in your new
management. It is a process you have to go through, either collectively or
individually, or you are going to get the whole ballpark. He said when
you start narrowing it down, it is good to know what you are looking for.
Mayor Paris asked if we could call you and individually talk with you
about what we are looking for.
Mr. Kelton said he has done individual interviews. He said what he did in
that case was to try and synthesize the comments from each Commissioner
into a summary that came back to the full Commission to adopt. He said
otherwise, I think you have a Sunshine issue.
Mr. Langley said Ms. Longo found an advertisement from one of the last
times. He said it is a sample and you don't have to use this but it will give
an example.
Commissioner Sackett asked Mr. Kelton about our Charter and Section
4.07, The Powers and Duties of the City Manager, that the ten items on
that list would be part of the expectations of the job. He also asked if he
had a copy.
Mr. Kelton had a copy of the Charter and said those items would be part of
the job expectations and are pretty standard.
Commissioner Sackett said he thought that should be part of the
advertisement.
Mr. Langley said to get this started, should the Commission direct the
Human Resources Department as to what they are wanting to have in the
advertisement to get this posted to start getting applications. He asked, or
do we want to put something together and next Monday show it to the
Commission.
Commissioner Sackett said we are here, let's deal with it.
Mr. Williams mentioned you could send out the information you would
want in the drop box that would give the ability to fill out a list of qualities
and attributes you are looking for. He said if that is a route you want to
consider, do that on an individual basis, compile it and provide that back
to Mr. Kelton. I understand time is of the essence.
Mr. Langley said we could provide more information from a drop box and
provide it to the Commission and deal with this on Monday. He said it is
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a good idea to get an advertisement out because you are not going to get
any applicants until you post it. -_
Commissioner Shoemaker asked if an advertisement without a salary
range would not be very effective. _
Mr. Kelton said without a salary range, you will get everybody from -one
end of the spectrum to the other. He said it is best to narrow down what
you are willing to pay.
Commissioner Shoemaker said Ms. Ricci provided her with the Min/Max
of which $112,409 was the minimum. She said Mr. Williams started at
$115,000, Ms. Powell started at $115,000, I think that is fair.
Mr. Kelton said he thinks you ought to set a range that you are willing to
negotiate within.
Commissioner Shoemaker said maybe $115,000 to $160,000.
Commissioner Sackett said I would say $115,000 to $135,000.
The Commission all agreed on that range of $115,000 to $135,000.
Mr. Langley asked if they wanted to look at the previous advertisement
and discuss what they liked and didn't like about it.
Discussion ensued on the previous advertisement and changes were
suggested.
Ms. Ricci will put together something for the next meeting and to use
previous advertisement as a guide with corrections.
Mr. Kelton made some suggestions for the advertisement. He said you
may want to consider where you state Bachelor's Degree that you also say
Master's Degree preferred. Also, you may want to state a preference for a
Credentialed Manager, one who has continued his education.
Mr. Langley said we can take all these comments and put it together
Monday for review.
Ms. Ricci said she can have something put together by tomorrow, she will
post it and can also handle the background checks.
4. ADJOURN. Mayor Paris adjourned the meeting at 4:05 p.m.
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Ben Paris, Mayor
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