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,,,r PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
175 WEST WAR>F:EN AVENUE
LONGWOOD, FLORIDA
March 3, 2009
COMMISSION CHAMBERS 7:00 PM
Present: Abigail Shoemaker, Chair
Randy Jonda, Member
Nancy Kubec, Member
David Putz, Member
Lori Rice, Member
Chris Capizzi, Recreation Program Coordinator
Linda F. Goff, Recording Secretary
Absent: Van Olvey, Vice Chair
Bob Driver, Member
1. Call to Order. Chair Shoemaker called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
~ 2. Approval of Minutes -February 3, 21)09 Regular Meeting.
Member Rice moved to approvE; the Minutes of February 3, 2009 as
submitted. Seconded by Member Putz and carried by a unanimous voice
vote with Vice Chair Olvey and Member Driver absent.
3. Public Participation. None.
4. Old Business.
A. Recreation Manager's Reporl.
Mr. Capizzi gave an update on Reiter Park. He said the stormwater work has been
approved and will be starting soon.
Member Putz inquired about the money for Reiter Park, and if it was set aside in a
special account or was it in the General Fund.
Mr. Capizzi said the money was allotted for Reiter Park. He stated there were
some issues in which he was not sure whether the funds were in the General Fund
or another account line.
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Mayor Brian Sackett said it was in different accounts. He stated what was
approved at the Commission Meeting la:>t evening was going through utilities. He
stated they just approved digging the retention pond on the Bernard property.
Member Putz inquired, with the economy, was there enough money to finish the
Park now.
Mayor Sackett responded not at this time.
Mr. Capizzi said the stormwater work has been approved. The pipes will be
placed in the ground, and they will dig t;he retention pond. He stated they were
waiting for the purchase order to be approved.
MaXor Sackett said it was his understanding the Park will be done in phases.
Member Putz inquired if there was a tin reline for Reiter Park.
Mayor Sackett said he has not seen a timeline. He stated it was the Commission's
feeling to do the infrastructure. He stated the St. John's Water Management
District Permit expires in 2014. He said they have funding for this work and
Reiter Park was a priority. He affirmed that based on taxes, the City does not
know what we will lose. He stated they did approve the Futsal Court.
Mr. Capizzi said the Futsal Court was approved and will be at Candyland Park.
Member Rice inquired if during the twc~ to three months the stormwater will be
undertaken, would any part of the Park 'be closed to the public.
Mr. Capizzi said he would need to research this for the Board as to whether the
whole Park will be closed or just partially closed. He stated they would also be
grading and placing sod in the Park.
Member Rice inquired if this project would not totally demuck the whole
property.
Mr. Capizzi said they would- not be totally demucking the property. He stated they
would be placing some geo-textile undf:r the ground as support in specific areas.
Mayor Sackett affirmed he was here fog: a specific reason and would like to
change the Board's Agenda slightly. H~, said, with the budget, the City was no
longer having the Board Appreciation Dinner. He presented tiles to the Board
Members and said the City Commission appreciates the work they do. He stated
with the Train Station and Reiter Park <is a gateway to the City, this area will be
very nice.
Mr. Capizzi reported Babe Ruth Openi~,ng Day is Saturday, March 7, 2009.
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~ MaXor Sackett said there were 599 children in the League this year. He stated the
Commissioners would be at the Opening Day Ceremonies to throw out first
pitches.
Chair Shoemaker inquired if they would be moving some of the ball fields to
Reiter Park.
Mr. Capizzi said that was undecided. He stated the goal was to make Reiter Park
more of a community park.
Mayor Sackett. said they were talking about a ball field, but the overall design of
Reiter Park was no ball fields.
Mr. Capizzi reported the Easter Egg Hunt. was scheduled for Saturday, Apri14`n
He said they will have pony rides, a bounce house, sack races, and bounce ball
races. He stated there will be four age groups.
Chair Shoemaker said there would be np goody bags.
Mr. Capizzi responded in the affirmative. He said the eggs will have candy in
them and.. they will be doing the golden eggs again. He stated they will have face
painting, two crafts, and the Easter Bungly will be there. He said the event was
from 9:00 to 11:00 a.m. and the Easter I:gg Hunt starts at 9:30 a.m.
Member Rice said some questions came; up last year that volunteers could not
answer. She inquired if anything had been done to coordinate with volunteers.
Chair Shoemaker said Member Putz ha~i recommended coming up with a list of
questions and answers as an instruction sheet for the volunteers.
Mr. Capizzi said Ms. Meli had mentioned this to him and requested that he ask
the Board Members if they had any specific questions.
Chair Shoemaker suggested they let therm know everything .about the event so
they can answer the questions.
Member Rice said if they received this information a few days prior to the event,
it would give them an opportunity to ask another question.
Mr. Capizzi said he would. a-mail a script to the Members a couple of weeks in.
advance. He stated if any questions come up in which they do not know the
answer, just point the parent in the direction of himself or Ms. Meli.
Member Rice inquired what time and vrhat place in the Park they would like the
volunteers.
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Mr. Capizzi said volunteers should show up at 8:30 a.m. and there was no specific
area to meet for this event. He stated he could include in the a-mail to the
Members what he would like for them to~ do so they will know ahead of time.
Chair Shoemaker said that typically with. this event, the volunteers man the fields
and keep order.
Mr. Capizzi said he had a site map for th.e event showing where things go and the
age group for the fields.
Member Rice inquired what the event costs were to the City,, and did they have
sponsorships.
Mr. Capizzi reviewed the costs and said they had no sponsors this year. He said
the bounce house was .free of charge andi it was provided by a local Church. He
stated they will also be doing prizes and he does not have the cost of those yet.
He advised they were well within budget for the event.
Member Rice iinquired if staffing from Public Works was overtime.
Mr. Capizzi responded in the affirmative.
Mayor Sackett said April 4a' was the fir;;t day of Spring Break and this could
mean either more or less children.
Chair Shoemaker inquired if they would have bags. available for the children to
place their eggs in if they don't have a gasket with them.
Mr. Capizzi said he would need to check with Ms. Meli regarding this. He stated
they had some bags left over from last }'ear.
Mayor Sackett said they ran out of Icier; last year. He stated he had to leave and
thanked the Members for serving the Ciity.
Member Rice inquired. how they advertised for the event.
Mr. Capizzi said this would be in the newspaper. He stated it has been in the Lake
Mary Life Magazine, it will be posted on the trailer signs, the Seminole Magazine,
and it was in the What's Happening that goes in the utility bills.
Chair Shoemaker said it seems they ha~~e been lacking in sponsorships with
Marveen Kelly out.
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Mr. Capizzi said Ms. Kelly did a lot of tt~e sponsorships and lately sponsorships
are up again. He stated there was a sponsor for the Senior Matinee, the Three-on-
Three Basketball Tournament has sponsorships, and all rai~le prizes for Celebrate
the Season were by sponsors.
Discussion ensued regarding sponsorships.
Commissioner Joe Durso said he had brought up at a City Commission Meeting
the need for a Marketing Plan. He stated this would go a long way in community
awareness and would also help with sponsors. He said Ms. Meli did an excellent
job in putting together a Plan that was reviewed at a City Commission Meeting.
Mr. Capizzi reported the Three on Three Basketball Tournament was scheduled
for March 28`h and there would be multiple age divisions. He said this has been
marketed well and they were hoping for a good sign-up. As he had previously
stated, they have sponsorships for the tonarnament and it is very affordable. He
said everyone would receive a shirt, and would play at least two games as it is a
double elimination. Trophies will also b~~ presented to the first place teams.
Mr. Capizzi reported there will be a Stress Management Seminar on March 21~`
that will be headed by the Yoga Instructor. He-said this was a free event, but they
do encourage donations.
~ Chair Shoemaker said the donations will cover expenses, and any left over
proceeds will be contributed to the Chri;~tian Sharing Center. She stated Mr.
Capizzi approached the Yoga Instructor because the City has the Community
Building the third Saturday of the month. The third Friday is Florida Music and
Saturday evenings is Blue Grass.
Mr. Capizzi reported Summer Camp will be held through the weeks of June 15~'
to August 7~' at Lyman High School. H~~ said last week Seminole County decided
they would not be providing buses for tine field trips. He stated they went down to
one field trip a week and they will be looking into charter buses.
Chair Shoemaker suggested he talk to the Longwood VFW as there were some
charter buses that park there, and they may be able to work something out.
1VIr. Capizzi said Longwood has the most reasonable Summer Camp in the
County. He stated the Oviedo Camp will be charging nonresidents $185 a week.
Longwood non-residents will be payin€; $130 a week, and if they do the early bird
payment, it is only $105 a week for norr-residents. He explained they have this
price difference to encourage parents to pay prior to camp starting so the Camp
Director does not have to collect money/.
Chair Shoemaker suggested a sleepover once a month. She said they could do a
~ field trip, and provide dinner and a mo~~ie when they return to the facility. She
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stated the parents can go out for a night: knowing their children are safe and
~ having fun.
Mr. Capizzi said one of the issues was ~ZOt having the facilities. He stated the
Community Building nights are booked well in advance.
Chair Shoemaker said this summer perhaps they could do this on a Thursday
night. She stated that Karate would be out by 7:00 p.m.
Mr. Capizzi said they hold Family Movie Night on Thursday nights.
Member Rice said it would have to be affordable for families if this could be
worked out with the facility. She stated a lot of Churches do lock-ins, but they
don't go anywhere.
Commissioner Durso suggested the City build a relationship with the YMCA for
doing something like this. He said the 'MCA and local Churches have done lock-
ins. He stated the Commission would h~~.ve to consider working this into the
budget, but it would be worth looking into. He said he had another meeting to
attend so he needed to leave. He stated he appreciated the work the Members do.
NIr. Capizzi said they have had meetings with the Director of the Lake Mary
YMCA and their programs cost more than the City programs.
Chair Shoemaker said the Counselors for Summer Camp were going to have to
work hard to keep the children entertained with less field trips.
Mr. Capizzi said the City was very fortunate to have Lyman High School facilities
for Summer Camp. He stated the Counselors are great at motivating the children
and work well with them.
Member Rice said last year they maintained capacity level. She inquired what. the
ratio was for resident/non-resident.
Mr. Capizzi advised the ratio has been approximately 70% residents and 30%
non-residents. He said this could change; due to increased camp costs for other
camps. They set 80 as a general cut-off number for campers, but at times have
gone higher. He stated they have capacity for 100. He advised the City's
counselor to camper ratio is 1 to 10. He said the County uses a 1 to 20 ratio.
Chair Shoemaker inquired if the City moved City Hall, would they keep this
building. She said Recreation could use the facility.
Mr. Capizzi said he had no information regarding this matter. He stated they
would still want to use Lyman High School for Summer Camp because of the
~ facilities available. He said there have been some discussions of merging Parks
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and Recreation, but this would not occur any time soon. He reported the routine
programs were going great. The basketb<<ll clinics started last Saturday, the tennis
clinics were going well and jazzercise w~is still doing well. He stated the Farmers
Market was doing well. He said they would be placing two banners, one on each
corner to make it more visible.
Member Rice said one of the City Comrriissioners.made arecommendation to
move the trailer sign around to different ilocations in the City.. She stated if she
didn't .know better, she would think the Farmers Market was at the Pie-N-Save
parking lot where the sign is located. She: said there was no real direction to this
sign .and it needed to change.
Mr. Capizzi said the trailer signs were not in good condition to be able to move.
He stated this ,past weekend they had fourteen vendors and they have four new
vendors that recently signed on. He advi:ced the Farmers Market will be through
the end of May and will close for the summer. He said they recently changed the
method of payment by vendors so the M:irket Manager is not required to collect
fees. He stated they have had a positive response to this and vendors are paying
for an entire month. He said the Farmers Market was on Channel 13 News and it
was also in the Newspaper.
Chair Shoemaker said she would like to ;gee more crafts at the Farmers Market.
~ Member Putz inquired who was doing the Marketing Plan that was discussed
earlier.
Mr. Capizzi advised that Ms. Meli did the Plan based on what Seminole County
has done and had worked with an emplo~~ee of the County. He said they are
members of the Seminole Cities Recreational Council (SCRC), an organization
where they meet and share ideas.
Member Putz inquired if the Marketing flan was done at no charge to the City.
Mr. Capizzi responded in the affirmative.
Mr. Capizzi said Ms. Meli had requested he inquire if the Board wanted to meet
in April: He stated the events will have been completed other than Summer Camp
and National Night Out.
Member Putz inquired how many Members go to the City Commission Meetings.
Member Rice, said she listens to the audio ofthe Commission Meetings.
Member Putz inquired if they heard Commissioner Holt state at a previous
Commission Meeting that individual Bo;rrd Members were liable:
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Member Rice said he stated something along those lines. However, he was
referring more to one of the other Board;.
Member Putz inquired if this referred to all the Boards. He said he would like to
know where they could get this information and stated he would like to know if
they, as Board Members, were liable.
Mr. Capizzi asked the Recording. Secret~~ry if this would be covered under the
Government-In-The-Sunshine Laws.
The Recording Secretary suggested they could contact the City Clerk to request
this infor-mation.
Chair Shoemaker said she could contact the City Attorney to request this
information.and ask that it be mailed to t:he Board Members.
Member Putz said he would like an answer sometime before April if they are
going to cancel April's Meeting. He stated he would like to know if Board
Members that volunteer are liable for anything to do with their position, or if
individual Board Members can be sued c?r held responsible for anything they do.
Member Putz moved to contact the City Clerk to inquire if Board
Members have any liability coverage through the City for any of their
actions. Seconded by Member Rice.
Member Putz said they were out volunteering with adults and children. He stated
anything could happen.
Chair Shoemaker said the question was if the Board Members were liable. She
stated if they vote that they want Reiter ]'ark to go through,. was he asking if the
Board would be liable if Reiter Park goes through and somebody slips and falls in
the Park.
Member Putz said he was inquiring if th~;y were .liable for any discussion or
decisions as an Advisory Board, or the fact that they volunteer with the public.
Mr. Capizzi said they could find out if individual Members were liable or could
be sued for anything they decide or held responsible based on a decision they
have made.
Discussion ensued regarding liability.
Member Putz said the Commission was i:alking about the Codes Enforcement
Board, but he would still like. to know al;~out the Parks and Recreation Advisory
Board.
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Chair Shoemaker said they were an Advisory Board and could only make
suggestions.
Member Rice said if they can be held personally liable was different than having
liability coverage.
Motion carried by a unanimous v~~ice vote with Vice Chair Olvey and
Member Driver absent.
Chair Shoemaker moved to additionally ask the City Clerk if individuals
on the Advisory Board are liable :for any decisions that they make.
Seconded by Member Rice.
Chair Shoemaker said if they make a decision to give one child a tootsie roll and
another child a hard candy and that child breaks a tooth, would they be liable for
that action. She reiterated they were only an Advisory Board and could only make
suggestions. They do not make decisions like the Codes Enforcement Board.
Motion carried. by a unanimous voice vote with Vice Chair Olvey and
Member Driver absent.
Member Rice inquired if Ms. Meli had provided Mr. Capizzi with any
information regarding the events and programs worksheet she had previously
supplied. She said she believed Ms. Meli had stated that between the last meeting.
and this meeting she would be meeting individually with Commissioners going
over line item costs for these programs. ~~he stated .she was anxious to get this
information from Ms: Meli, and she thought Ms. Meli's goal was to have this
information for tonight. She inquired if this could it be e-mailed to the Members
so they can review it before the next meeting.
Member Jonda inquired if they have done the budget for this year.
Mr. Capizzi said they were working on it, but it was not ready at this time.
Chair Shoemaker said she had a feeling T?Is. Meli would not be ready by April.
She stated there were so many things bei~lg balanced right now with getting a new
City Administrator, Financial Services Director, and Community Services
Director.
Member Rice said if the events are planned and on paper, she would think they
would have a good idea of what they will. cost.
Mr. Capizzi said there was a template of what they have spent, but this may not
include expanding or knowing how much they can budget to add to them.
Member Putz inquired about the schedul~;d April Meeting date.
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~ Chair Shoemaker said it would be on April 7, 2009.
Member Putz moved to cancel tl-~e April 7, 2009 Board Meeting. Seconded
by Member Kubec and carried bey a unanimous voice vote with Vice Chair
Olvey and Member Driver absent.
Mr. Capizzi said if Ms. Meli has this infi~rmation together, she can send it to the
Board Members.
Chair Shoemaker said by not meeting in April, so much can happen in the next
two months. She stated the Board was trying. to be a part of this process.
Member Rice said they have to have the information as well. If they are not
meeting in April and don't receive the ir.~formation in May, then it is too late to
have any input.
Mr. Capizzi said the Interim Finance Director was fine tuning things and this may
be the reason why this information was not ready to be provided.
Chair Shoemaker advised that. Mr. Sizemore, Community Services Director
resigned and his last day would be March 13~'. She said that Mr. Capizzi and Ms.
Meli report to the Community Services Director.
S. New Business. None.
6. Adjournment. Chair Shoemaker adjourned the meeting at 8:54 p.m.
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Abi it Shoemaker, Chair
ATTEST:
Linda F. Goff, R rdng Secretary
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