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Charter10-28-98Min
cm~op LOSCwooD 1995 C}SAR1'ER ADVISORY COMTD'CPEE Longtvopd Clly Comptisslpn Clmntben 1]5 W. \\'an'en Avenue Longnood, Ylarida Minutes October 28, 1998 Precept: Craig Vpn Ilaoven, Ulssrld 1 Jim DvIY. Vice-chair, llistrict2 Butch Bundy, District 3 JoAnne Rehellp, District -0 Absent: I,Ynette Dennis, Ulstriel 5 Others Present: Ter's Arptstropg, Recording Secretary uam~tp rma= Annemarie Vacni, Commissioner, District 3 1. CALL TO ORDER With a quorum present, Vice chair Daly called the meeting to order al']:0] p.nr. _. PLLDGE OP ALLEf,.IANCC Mr. Daly requested hf r. Randy lead the pled¢e of allegiance. 1. EI.FC"PION OW Ot'FICLRS M.c Rebello nominated Mr. Daly for chair with Mr. Van Hooven cording. Ms.Rebello nominated Mr. Ven Hooven for vicmcltair with Mr. Daly se onding. Mr. Van Hooven moved to close the nominations x•im Ms. Rebello recording. 13y acclamation. the comminee elected Mr_ Daly as chair and h1r. Van Hooven as vicrrcheir. A. MEDTI\G OF ts'EDNDSDAI'. •VOYFSS/ISER 25, 19Yft Prt-Thapl:sgiving: Keep uhedule, cancel, or reschedule By ea .the comminee decided to move the Wednesday, November 25, 1998, entering m Monday, November 23, 1998. at'/:00 p.m. They decide4 w keep the Wednesday. December 23. 1998. m schedulul. o. APPItOYR VIIn'UTFS OF SRI'"fGh16Gt 2}, 1998, MEF;TI~\'G Chm1er Adv. Copi. 10-2f3-91:\I Tne minutes were unammoosly approved as submitted. 6. PLtQLIC PAIL'fIC1PA'1'10,~' Mr. Daly asked if the committee had decided lest time if the meeting would have Public Participate Ms Rebello noted that Public Participate n the eoenda. Further, she said efiu xpeaking to someone with the Attorney Generalns Office that it must be allowed by Honda Stamtu. Mr. Dxly said, in that case, the committee would hove public Participation and the committee will set al what point in each agenda that Ne Public Panicipetion would take place. He mentioned it had been approved at the I, st meeting. Mr. Daly, the chair. asked if anyone to the audience would like to speak to the committee Ms. Tolos indicated she would like to 57seak, eking if there was clan[ication on Section 3.01 (eJ, Ceograplticttl Coinnitssimt Distrins, fl), as she still was eonfitsed. Sald she thought Ne wnd Ilna from the trotwtn-'and each wmmissloner shall resiUein a separate Go~nmission dist et der nghis/her term of office,' xhould be changed Nrotyhout to Lead as in (a) Comtpos Dort, "Each n, ne.,shall reside in a Aroma ttttetlEenBn nhtrnl distract. Disc nsue4 regarding this item, with Mr. Daly saying it oulU not be discussed because !Here wax no heading of "Unfinishevl Uusiness" on the agenda. Ms. Tolos raid it could be since under Public Participation. Ms. Tolos raid she would like to keep the wording the same wn (a), "des aced geographical dill hfr. Daly said to malre a to Nis . He asked tMx.'1'olos efthere was something else she would like to talk aboutn She !responded. yet Section J.O6, Item (b) h'orfeitttre ol'Ofl ice, the "second" item (1) in the parngmph (b)-"is victed of or is found to be guilty by a jury orjudge or enters a plug of guilty or nolo tendese to e crime excluding traffe olTettres and scond degree misdemeanors, or half is of fenres." Ms. Tolos asked about first degree and third Uegree misdemeanors and thought one of them should be in that sentence along with the second degree. Said it also appears under the Removal of City AJministrator. Section 4.05. Itean 3, second line from the bottom. Mr. 6undy explained first. second, and third degree. Mr. Daly requested Ms Armstrong ask the city et Hey m give e Uelinition of a thir0 degree misdemeanor as it applies to 3.06 (b) and 6.05 (3)[ Public Patt icipatimu Mr. Daly said at this point "Public Participation" is agenda item 6; how ,this could change if Ne comnti0ee finds it cumbusome to do it at that time Mr. Daly said this was not "e rn~e<I in stone" until the last couple of meetings. He continued, at Nat dme Ne committee would listen to any public input and it would give the public a chance anything the committee hart done up to that poir Before the last wuple of 1! meetings betnre finalizing Ne submission to [he commission, would definitely like ro have CltntYen Atlr~. Cont. 10.2tl-9N\2 additional public participation to help the comntitten before sending it on to the commission. Ne said people know what is on the agenda, if the public hxs any particular thoughts. suggestions on that night's considerations to give it to Ne wmmittee before they n During the last couple of meetings when going through it n by it end [inxlizin¢, for the public can help tlta committee by raying this is sosnetlting Nay would Iii ke the committee ro Zook at. Ms. Tolos requested having a "from" - n [he agenda for the sections of the charter to be vered. She wax informed they could not do this because at times they moved mote quickly than other times. Chairman Ualy said the committee was not going to complete [he charter without everybotly having something to say about the charter. '1. ILIt:\'fE14'Ct1ARTE12 6EC1\'NING 1\'rC11 SECTION 3.IU, ACTION fiEQUI1tE~`G A~' ORDIT'ANCE Following ex ve disc roduced by Mr. Daly on Section 3.111 (3), having alist of foes put in the charter, Con~nissioner Vacca responded to Mr. Dely's question as to what her opini She said [hat if you re going to impose fines, oNer penalties, or esrnblish a rule, ~t is requiring an ordinance m do [hat. It is not v~Ying that needsto be laid out in the charter. Mr. Daly cosnsne+tted to strike that. Mr. Daly qua ne0 Sert ion 3.IU IJ) Grnm, rc rata I'ntnchise. Extensive disc nsued. Gnnmsssoner Vaccu stated again. This ixeonly raying chat an ordinance is reyuireU n e Sec on J.IU I~) Cou.ey or lease or mdhorize the eonveyaom ar lettce of an.' Inn<LS nP the <tty. Mr. Daly said he would like to in.sert'in [his item "that commisslone¢ or employees of lease of convey lands to the city.' Ms. Rebello and AAr. Bundy gave explanations of why thiswri not hte plee~ sn the Charter for [his. Mr. Daly said that he wxs Iryin& to moderate and put out ideas for discussion. He was only ~ t oC five: his job was m try to dhrow sluff out for discussion that he studied and Onyone else ould do that also. He saitl that h¢ wunldjust throw out items fur discussion; he would not debate the issues at all. He would just initiate them and it the other four members Discussed it. then the cvmmihee can make deasions. Mr. Daly continued, that he was a moduetor. hlr. Bundy comutestted drat Mr. Daly was not ]LSt a modemmr: as a member of the wntnti[tee. he was within his rightx to debate and discuss the ivsses. Mr. Daly stated that the het that het roduced it already m s that he is in liavor of it. Ms. Rebello returned w discussion of 3.10 ("]) and agreed with h1r. Bundy that it doem't mahet if it is an employee or ~ .there has to bea public hearing of the ordinance, Commissioner Vaaa saitl the s~ggest nay be a good idra, but nuy belong under Section 3.05. Prohibitio Discuu nn continued. Ms. Armstrong said it would be covered ender the FloridasSta«ues. Following discusion. Mr. Daly said there rmre nn changes iu 3.IU. He susgested when they Charles' Adv. Cont. IU-?&98\3 ~ daeidrA no change, the members could mark This in Iheir workbook next 1o Ille item antl tnande me aare Scotian 3.10, Artivn Requiring An Orelinnnee-Na recommendvtions for chvnges. seelmll3. u, ordlmtnces nom R~oinrols- aevkd mngmtgu sbau conrornl m corm, ~:. (proposed) comply with rotor, per Ms. Itebello. Ms. Armstrong asked Mr. Ualy if he ,ma this item listed on the nett agentla as "t)nfinished Business." Mr. Daly said only a tabled item would be on the agenda as "Unfnisbed business." Sec on 3.12, Emergency Onlinunces- Diswsslon ensued initiated by Mr. Daly's qua Irons. No rccommendnl,ons. Section J. tl-Codes oP Technlcvl Reg„latiotls-NO recommendations. Section 3.14- AI,Ilteltl ication and Recording: Cotlificntion; Printing - Ro 6y consensus, the committee look e break el 8:15 p. In. and reconvened at 8:25 p.m secrpn a.al clr clack -Nor«onlmcnaalions. ~' Sec ot. a.az-city nunrney - Mr. van Hoove„ inhtatm diarasslon on section a.oz lb) ragaming city also ,ter done:. rvo recnlntncnamions. scernlt a.od - Appolmmem amt Tern. or orrce o[ cbr amp ana car nuormr-rvo endaro,~ par cote taken. Dirswssto garding Ili najority vote vs. 4/5 majority vote. Mr. Van Hooven InotioneA to table Section 4.03 until the next meeting, seconded by Mr. Dray. Mr. Daly asketl if there was any "Public Participation." Ms. Toros replied, yes. She informed Ihel she was not in favor of a 4/5 vote antl gave her reasons. Messrs. Van Hooven ana Bunay slvely tlebated the issue, along wish comments by Ms. Aebello, Mr. Daly, ana Coco er Vaccx. Mr. Ualy requested Ilse discussion end. Mr, Bundy said he was done. Mr. Daly ~aia Ibex was a motion on the Moor to able Section 4.03 to the nezl meeting, when live members are present, antl it has been seconded. Motion IailrA to ©rry by a 2-2 vote wish Mesirz Van Hooven ana Daly in tavor of tabling, and Ms. Rebello and Mr. Bundy not in favor. Mr. Daly slxlul Ilse motion had failed. Cllanor Ad.~. Co,n. 10.28-98t4 Mr. Van Hoovuat addressed the chair. saying he would like m reserve the right to bring this n up at a later date. Explanation was given that only those who voted on [he prevailing xide of the vote have the right to bring the issue Mck for reconsiduatien at another meeting. Discussion continuetl with Mr. Daly saying the committee had prev usly screed They watdd revisit any enicle with unresolved quesvions before the fitnl review'o Mr. Bandy qua oned why have [his motion if the invent is to revisit everything, n ring hix undus anding w s the committee would revisit dtosc itemx that the committee had so noted to Discussion continued during which Mr. Daly slated the Gtair rules that this can be revisited before bast disposition. Mr. Bundy called a point of order saying the Gtair does not have the authority m so rule only the committee does. Mr. Daly and Mr. Bundy continued with a heated debate on the point. during which time Mr. Ualy said hz would entertain a motion to adjourn; noting the commitme will begin the ncet session with Snction 4. W. M s.Rebellc moved to atljotnn. Mr. Daly and Mr. Bundy cominued to discuss during which Mr. Daly attempted w bring disc ettd. saying the meeting was adjourned and lien riled Mr. Bundy if he now wished to eonainue discussion. Mr. Bundy said he would only conhnue discussion on [he record. Mr. Dxly continued that, he as Ne chair, could ntn the meeting the way he wished. 8. A4E~UA ITEMS FOR TEX'I'MEk'1'ING Y. ADJOURN There was no formal adjoumnient of this meeting. At approximately 9' IS D. m. all members of the cotnmittce had left the meeting room. SUBMITTED BY: APPROVED 6Y COMhIITTEE ~rry-~ary tin Y.Chair- i/~/9 Date Chat~ur Atlv. Corn. 10-25-98\i