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2001 -Charter Advisory Committee
Longwood City Commission Chambers
t]8 W. Warren Avenue
Longwood, FL
Minutes
April 18. 2002
Present: Jimmy Ross, Chairman
George McKenzie, Vice Chairman
Gail Brown, Member
JoAnne Rebello, Member
Geraltline D. 2ambri, City Clerk
Absent: Lynette Dennis, Member (excused)
t. CALL TOORDER.
Chairman Ross called the April 18, 2002 Chader Advisory Committee
meeting to order at 7'00 p m.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF MARCH 28, 2002.
Member Brown moved to accept the Minutes of March 28, 2002 as
submittetl. Seconded by Chairman Ross. Motion carried by a
voice vote. with Member Dennis absent.
3. REVIEW PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENTS SUBMITTED BY
MEMBER REBELLO.
Member Rebello presentetl her first recommentlatlon that being to amend
Section 10.01(a). She proposed that the Charter require that the five
members of the charter committee be requiretl to reside in antl represent
on district. She discussed the vagueness of the current
anguage and wished to Gadfy it as well as assure citizen representation
from each commission district.
Vice Chairman McKenzie indicated concern that it wultl be tllfficult for the
Com rs to be able to find people willing and qualifietl to serve from
all districls,ne
Member Rebello suggested using language such as, "shall try" to appoint
from each district.
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Chairman Ross saitl in his judgment a charter revision wmmittee is not
representing tlistricts, as the committee is not dealing with issues, such
as, the paving of roads, and he shared Vice Chair McKenzie's thoughts, in
that he was more interestetl in quality, notjusl a willingness to serve, and
the pars 's background in government antl that supercetles where the
person lives.
Member Rebello moved an amendment to Section )0.01(a) of the
City Charter as !allows: Charter Review. The Commission shall,
ham time to time, and not less than every .......................... The
Atlvisory Committee shall consist of five f61 members each
ember res'rling and re entlnq a Commission DisMCt. Motion
failed for lack of a secontles
Member Rebello presented her secontl recemmendation, saying she
believed it was very important for the Commissioners to also attend work
noting many important issues are tliscussetl for lengthy pedotls
of fimenprior to final approval at a regular meeting. She said many items
of importance require much study antl it was not possible for the type of
and study accomplished at a work session to be tlone at a regular
meet ng. She also objeIXetl to Commissioners, who do not attend work
sessions, to expect to tliscuss the entire issue at a regular meeting.
Member Rebello movetl to amend Section 3.06(6) of the Charter to
adtl language as follows: Forteiture of Office. ACOmmissioner
shall fodeit hislher office ... if a Commissioner fails to attend three
(3) consecutive regular meetings andlor three (31 consecutive
scheduled work sessions of the CiH Commission without being duly
cased by the commission. Sewntletl by Uce Chairman
McKenzie.
Member Brown was in agreement that electetl officials should be required
to attend the work sessions.
Chairman Ross said he bellevetl work sessions were just that, work
0 official business or votes coultl take place. Further, the City's
Com s also work to earn a living, and some have more trouble
than olhersrin attending but most try to make the work sessions.
Mr. Ross notetl there were some grammatical errors in this section and
asked that the Gty Clerk attempt to correct them.
Vice Chairman McKenzie understood the issue of Commissioners
working, but saitl he did not see why someone woultl run for office if they
could not afford it or have the time to tletlicate.
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Mr. Ross took issue with the words na tl/or,
Motion carried by a three/one/zero roll call vote. with Member
Rebello, Vice Chair McKenzie and Member Brown voting aye,
Chairman Ross voting nay, with Member Dennis absent.
Ms. Rebello presented her third recommendation to amend Section 3.09
(b) of the Chatter to require that the Commission's rules end order o[
business be adapted by ordinance versus resolution, as presently done.
Member Rebello explained that she believed the changes to the
Commission's rules should be by ordinance because the public hearing
requirement for atloptlon of ordinance allows for public input and adoption
by resolution does not require public hearing.
Member Rebello moved to amend Section 3.09 (b) as per her
mentlation_ Seconded by UCe Chair McKenzie.
Motion failed to carry by a two/twolone vote, with Member Rebello
and Vice Chairman McKenzie voting aye, Member Brown and
Chairman Ross voting nay, with Member Dennis absent.
Chairman Ross said the last sentence in section 3.09(b) Is superfluous in
that the minutes and audio tapes are a public record as per the Stale
Statutes and he would revise his vote if Ms. Rebello would amend her
motion to delete the last sentence.
Member Rebello moved an amendment, to delete the last sentence
of Sec[ion 3.09 (b). Seconded by Vice Chairman McKenzie.
Motion carried with by a voice vote, with Member Dennis Absent.
4. REVIEW MEMORANDUM TO THE CRY COMMISSION WITH
PROPOSED CITY CHARTER AMENDMENTS.
Chairman Ross said the new matter would be to adjourn but before that
he would hope the Committee would have finished its work this evening
mentlations to bring forward. He referred to the Summary that
had been prepared by Ms. Reimers, and noted the two proposed changes,
which were approved tonight, which would be added to this summary.
Mr. Ross then referred to the two items he submitted to the Committee
this evening, each paragraph being independent of the other.
Uce Chairman McKenzie asked if the Committee had voted on Member
Rebello's main motion.
Chairman Ross agreed the vote had not been taken.
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Member Rebello reiterated her motion to amend Section 3.09 as
per her recommendation as with amendment. Vice Chairman
McKenzie seconded. Motion carried by a three/one/zero voice
vote, with Member Rebello, Chairman Ross, antl Vice Chairman
McKenzie voting aye, Member Brown voting nay with Member
Dennis absent.
Chairman Ross continued on the matter of forwarding the additional items,
which he had proposed, to the Commission. He saitl neither hatl any
place in the Charter, however,as citizens, he believed they could so
advise those whom they elect as to their thoughts antl ideas. He
minded that originally he considered recommending the first item as an
mentlment but later withdrew tha[request. He proposed these Items be
ndutletl as the last two paragraphs in the report.
Member Rebello saitl she agreed with what he was saying but did not
believe it was the purpose of this Committee to look at what was wrong
with the Cotle and personnel and would not vote to go ahead with this.
As to the sewntl item he submitted, Chairman Ross reminded that the
Charter Committee began in December, not September, and wished to so
advise the Commission, antl asked that the Committee adjourn sine die.
Member Rebello noted the Commission was a IiM1le tartly in make
appointments antl, perhaps, they were having [rouble fntling members
and, therefore, it began late.
Chairman Ross reminded that the Charter says the Charter Committee
shall continue in existence for a period not to exceed one year. He then
asked that both be accepted for inclusion in the foal report.
Member Rebello asked that each item be voted on separately.
As to Item 1, Chairman Ross asked that it be included in the final report,
noting Member Rebello hatl already said no.
Member Brown hatl no objection as long as R was submitted as two
separate ideas and that the third paragraph In Item 1 be moved to where it
woultl be the final paragraph-
Vice Chairman McKenzie agreed as long as they were done as two
separate pages.
As to Item 2, there were no objections to its inclusion. Chairman Ross
said the date of the adjournment, once determined, woultl be inGutled in
the last sentence.
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Discussion ensued as to when another meeting woultl be held In order for
the members to affix their signature to the report that will be forxardetl to
the City Commission,
Ms. Zambri said adding the additional two recommendations made at this
ning's meeting would not be difficult in that the language had been
prvovitled by Member Rebelio and if the Committee so chose, she could
have the final summary of all recemmentlations prepared for signature
and she wultl fax a copy to each Committee member for review and each
could at their own convenience, wme to her offce, and sign the summary.
Chairman Ross noted that the language for one of the recommendations
had not been prepared. Ms. Zambri noted that she could prepare the
language so that the procedure for Initiative and Referendum would be
writlen similar Yo the procedure for Charter Amendments, Section
1Q01(b)(1)l2) and (3) In acwrdence with the recommentleticns of the
proposer which were approved by the Committee.
Chairman Ross said that was the intent and the process Ms. Zambri
mended woultl be acceptable to him ii all the other members
agreed. And, if so, the committee could adjourn tonight.
Member Brown preferred that the date of atlloumment coincide with the
last signature on the memo.
Member McKenzie suggested that Chairman Ross be the final signature
on the memo. All were in agreement.
Chairman Ross then said the Committee, however, has to be in session to
adjourn and if the process mentioned was agreeable to all and if the committee
agreed that It was acceptable for him to meet with the Clerk to dot all then s and
ss the t's, the Committee could atljoum this evening. There were no
objections.
5. ADJOURN.
Chairman Ross moved to adjourn the Charter Advisory Committee
ne die. Seconded by Member Brown. Motion carried by a voice
vote, with Member Dennis absent.
The meeting adjourned at ]:45 p.m.
Jimmy Ross, Chairman
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