BOAMin04-06-94Present. Jim Daly, Chairman
Joe Nunz rata, Vice Chairman
Sue Wilder, 5 ontl Vice Chairperson
sell H ontl
JohnBBrock, Planning s ui td ing S rtes Dr r.
Ajmal Jami, Assistant City Pl anrteirV
Chief Baker, Longwood Police Department
Martha Tyler, fte<ortling secretary
1. The m ing of the Board of Adjustment was called [o order by
Mr. Daly ate 6:30 p.m.
SPECIAL PERMIT REQUEST To oPEAATE LONGWOOD TEEN RECREATIONAL
Mr. Daly displayed proof of publication for the Public Hearing.
Mz. Jami i rotlu<etl John e ock, the City of Longwood's new Planning
Direct efore the public hearing was opened.
Daly opened the Public H art ng a asked if anyone present
wtahed to speak in favor of the Special P Asst. Chief Baker
spoke in favor a altl the Teen B artl eandithe Longwood Police
Department's main aobjectl ve r o try to focus o r younger
people, He further s led theyshoped by provlainq this os rvlce for
young people from 12 Co 18 years of age, c ati ng a place to go t
have gootl clean fun, would decrease crrme rn the City of Longwooa.
Chief Baker Baia [hey have had good support from local
rchants, schools ontl They have also gotten gootl
support from Channel 2, who Arid as special in regard to the Longwood
has given them positive support
Mr. Brown as ketl if tt was only for Longwootl teenagers ontl was told
Chief Baker said they a focusing o the three closest high
schools (Lyman, Lake Maryeand Lake Rran[1 ey) since they a
close proximity and tt could affect South Hemi nole to s extentn
Theze a about four mttldle schools i this a a that i will
effect. e TM1ey must prove [hey are still attending school. and
registration cards will be i ued t acR student who will a entl.
eekly log sheets will be kept whtch will help t itlenttfy
which schools they a ing from. If s e fromto side of
the should antl they prove their age they will
probably be permtttetl end,andue their havtng police
officers working s urtty andt the crvilianochaperons working each
night that it rs open.
Daily sheets will be kept antl there will b adequate chaperons antl
police officers in and out of the Dulldtnq.
else spoke an favor of the v Daly asked if
there vas y e present who wished to tspeak agat nst the Teen
Longwootl and [ e Ln Longwootl Industrial P aitl he w
Rere, n o speak against the proposed Teen cent ~ ut to ask
questions.t
Erickson asked tf any studies have been made of of z ing"
att ons, like this, in other cities such as taking an tndustiial
park antl putting a bottle club, nigh[ club, o etht ng similar a
[he T Club and if any problems have come up from doing something
similarn as this.
Mr. Jami said Longwood is not proposing a club. It rs strictly a
the building has been stopped until the meeting is heltl tonight
Mr. Erickson asked if there w any way Mingo Tri a1 could be
blocked a the c ing off SR 434 down t
willthaveet nol eft so the kitls c n't c e back o
Lane antl go south on Mingo Trail and back into the rest uof Dthe
antl that part wtll be blocked off. e further s
e the kids a there they stay i sitle the builtlinq. saltl n
will be allowetl t y in a vehicle durtng the Rours i
open. 1 Rave oe ough officers i
rafficThe is ks on said h only c it there shov ltlabe
eif lowro netl about their going o o Sansu
and Hiqhli nef Drive stnce sthatCe the a tof the
a ndal ism has o red. After Mrs Baker a redr Rlm othey would
Rave a ough officers C andle the traffic SUes pecially for [he
Sa turtlay night kids sinehthey will be tlriving. The Fritlay night
kids are young enougR so they woultl be tliopped off.
vottl any problems i rega rtl t raffic. They will have a
sitle fencetl a Chat t e kitls c n goo sitle for fresh a ~ bvY
that a will also be chapere ned.a They plan to have a mt ntmum of
four to asrx officers that will be at each function. He Ras
tea sheriff Ealinger ana he ~olnn[eerea c t if he f
noble to get e ough Longwood Police officersa for asstst, but
expects to be able to ha ntl le it with Longvood's office zs.
-aly ques [ionetl Mr. Jaml about the letter they hatl
cel ved from Sun H and M ofh tRe building
is donating it ands will n t bea realizing snyn benefits from the
bulltlinq such a a lease for at least a year. He requested
the Clty t waivers sf the s n fees in lieu of r
that he would havemebeen ceivi ngonn onprofi[
organization the city Commission made a tlecision tos go along with
that. The letter Etom Sun -ank i simply stating that they don't
Rave any problem with it, but thesletter w ary since they
hatl gotten a loan from sun Bank foE the sewer system. Cha lrman
building woultl never have to pay any connec to on fees to being
s long as it is antler the Police Department's c rol and
doesn at charge the s ectton fee wtll be waived.
said he belteved the fees wwoultl shave to be paitl if they should
decide to change [he use of Cha property.
. Chief Baker s hey Fad checked a other places and
they would have r nr $3C 00 to $3.25 per sq ndf tt
building will r uabout $3.00 per sq. ft. or less Mr emfurCRer
stated Yhat they are ptojecti ng that the dances could qe grate s
pretty good m ney, h they a t the
profit because they wtl lvbe putting i[n back into the co lty for
[his s rvica fox the youth. TRe young people will pay a irti tt al
$l.go fox Che tlartce pet night, but o Che regls tration c
issued i will be zetlucetl to $2.0o per n.i gh[. Eric ks on dasked
Row ma nytyouths they expected and A Chief Baker said i ould
go anywhere Erom 0 to 900, but a ordi ng [o City Codes i oultl
take up to 900. He w asketl by o of the BOA members howomu<h
ney he thought woultl be genera Cetl by [he [ n dances artd he
n[t cipated about $86,000 a year. He saitl he had been approached
by s who hatl wantetl to join i itR them stickt ly for the
proflteObut w s told this teen club ni onproflt. He saitl the
Police Department put up $12,000 out of st he Confiscation Fund. They
d to get approval from Tallahassee s t hatl c e from drug
ney and they approved rgotnq back into the
ity and for the youths. sOther ttl s Rave been made and
labors has a o been tlonatetl. They a still v ing from the
$12,000 that vas approved by the Chief of Police ~ as yell as Che
City Commission again, since the Special Peimlt rs for only six
before the a and of Adjus again for a n[hs' a nsion,
and if iC neetletl to bee entled further they swould ask forxa _
code change, e property would n t be changed t a diffeienCaz
In ortler i allow [he facility t main there permanently~othc
Code will have Co be amentletl to allow for such facilities. TRe:
would not allow a bar or something of that nature to come into the
oultl b able to start u ing the fac.il ities and A Chief e
aid the City Commissionshatl been approached by s regard
to a Senior Citizens tlance being heltl s et he future o
Monday nights antl he woultln't Rave any problem rwlth that. Mrn
Erickson eaitl as long a any function is Reld of ter 6:30 p.m. and
ends by 10:30 p.m. he wouldn't have a problem with it.
Mr. Erickson also brought up the question to Mr. Jami of whether
there would be any chance i the future of getti nq a
of the Industrial Park t Florida Central cCOmmeice
Parkway where [here is a retl light or atltli ng a light at Mingo Trail
Re ditln'[ think there is a platted rigM1t-of-way antl he would Rave
woultl have to be put at Mingo Trail sauce at s so ha rtl to get rn
have to be matle by t e State Department of T nspoie atl on.
Eiicks on had other c about approaching t r property
the Industil als ark in regard htheire paying
ent ortler to have a oad <ut to giv them a to
Floritla Central Commerce Parkway. Mi. Daly sugges[etlccto Mr.
Mr. Jami saitl this type of
embers o rcR 4, 1994 that s retl the applicant shoultl provide
objectlonalet[ers from atljacent property o the parking
Iss and there w e providetl to the BOA members. Jaml
aide he had spokenet Chief Baker and he will pMOVtde a
letter, however M Da1ys said there shoultl be letters from the
adjac t property o Mr. Hill D ted that he w of
the atljacent properiyeo and thataM a Ratl spokennwith
him briefly, b said he w netl ea bout t e parking
for the d twhen Dthe high school kitls woultl c eni oz
iti zens, a aid there w s discussion regartlingSwhere
the property o ould park. aid they w told that they
only allowed t n parking spacessa any o rf low had to park
rnrthe Nighline Drlve area which was two blockseaway.
Mr. Dane saitl all the traffrc will be traveltng over a private
there ethinq he isn't of. Sami will
rnvestigate oand find tout who owns theaproperty. MrHe stated he
didn't [hlnk the BOA should be c netl about the a tha
property at this ttme because the cdedicatton process ccouldo Cake
nths. He furthers Cetl the BOA is dealing only with a lantl use
issue on this property at this meeting.
. Chief Baker s Cetl that other t e driving o Chis
street o a daily basis who a the on of the property. Ne
also said [hey patrol thisre utinely, they tlo other
businesses to [he City, whether tt is a private ors dedicatetl road.
Mr. Nunziata said it doesn't appear it will cause any undo hardship
s qet Coget her and the private road c t be used i[ will
create a problem with parking and with [he other tenants in thls
orlon by M ondetl by Mr. Brown to close the Public
Hearing. Motionncarriedsby a una nrmous yorce vote.
otion by M Wtlder, s ondetl by M and t eopen the Public
Fieari ng. Motron <arrietl by a una nrmous yorce vote.
Ms. Wiltler statetl she felt the BOA was here Co determine Che use of
the builtli ng only. Mr. Hammond s red he highly agreed wlih M
Wilder, that anything further rega rdi nq the roatls should be brought
before the Land Planni n9 Agency.
attl he had n objection to the Teen C r being used
day ne Saturday nights, netl that if
actiyi tt ee were scheduled during the tlay trucks would be comi nq in
. Chief eakei said they intend [ ork with the o of the
property. red them thew would be n ivl tt esnduring the
day trme tlu es tos the Police Department being unable Co man lt. He
Dance worked o t, however the hours most likely would be ]:30 p.m.
to So:30 p.m. u
made a d by Mr. B close the
ondn portion the 1PUblicr Hea rl ng. Motionn carri etl by a
unanrmous voice vote.
Motion by M nzla[a, s ondetl by Ms. Wilder, [o Lssue a Special
t for a periotl o nths for [he property in question.
cility would be (available f ]:30 - 10:30 p.m. o ridgy
and Saturday nigM1ts only. Motron carried by a una nrmous roll call
4. AO-ITIONAL -ISCllSSiON: None
5. A-SOURN: ee ing adjourned at ]:45 p.m.
pectfully suMdtCal.
Ms[ha Tyler. Rsmrdin9 Secretary