BOAMin05-12-86BOARD Of AodO81r1ENT
MAV 12, 1966
Present: David Lewis, Lhai rnian Variance Patri Celli - Glenn R.
Frederick Rea rl Steele
Rod Cable Special Permit and Variances
Onnie SM1Oma to Swope (Courtesy Pontiac) -
doyce Sober Dick Fess
ch ri sti an Nagle, City Planner
Geri Zambri, Deputy Li ty clerk
1. The meeting was called to order by Mr. Lewis at ]:38 P.N, in the Lorgwood
City Nall Pl anni n9 Department,
2. Approval of Minutes of February 10. 198fi meeting: Motion by Or. Pearl,
conded by Mr. Cable to approve the Minutes of the February 10, 1986 meeting
wri [ten. Motf on ca ri ed by a 4 to 0 vote, with Mr. Cable, Mrs. Suber, Mr.
Lewis and Dr. Pearl voti n9 aYe and M11rs. Shomate abstaining as she was not
present at the February 10, 1986 meeting.
3. Public Hearin V r c V 1 8fi A lira t. c lli. Owner:
Glenn R, and Loreda Stee Len Location: 5 side of Rei der Avenues (E 90 fT of Loi
4 and W 10 FT of Lot 5, Block 2, Plat of 41. Wil dmere ). Request to construct a
single family residence with 1500 sq. ft. of living area in lieu of required li{00
sq, ft. of living area in an R-lA zoning district.
Mr. Lewis opened the Public Hearing and displayed proof of publication. Mr. Lewis
asked if anyone present would like to speak for or against the request. There was
ne present to speak for or a9ai nst the regves t. Mr, Nagle stated Mr. Pa tri cel li
noultl not be present and asked Mr. Nagle to tell the Board that he hoped they would
act on his behalf. Mr. Nagle stated that Mr. Pa tri cel li said he would try to have
representative present. Mr. Nagle stated he had re arched the Board of Adjust-
ment minutes For the past four years and found that approximately ttio thirds of
the va es granted were for va of this na n this and the su ountli ng
neighborhood. Mr. Nagle stated backni ns1981 when therCi ty adopted the zoni nq
ordinance many of the R-1 z ni ng districts we a upg radetl to R-t A, this particular
ea bet n9 one of the districts upgraded. Mrr Nagle stated most of the homes i
the area were below 1800 sq, ft, and it appeared to be a hardship to no impose na
1800 sq. ft. requirement on the infi ll lots in that it created a financial hardship
anyone now qns tructi n9 to overbuild for the neighborhood. Mrs. Shomate stated
~M1e belt evetl at1500 sq. ft, dwelling was adequate in this neighborhood.
Motion to close the Public Hea ri n9 by Or. Pearl, seconded by Mr. Cable. Motion
carried by a unan~movs roll call vote.
Motion by Dr. Pearl, s conded by Mrs. Svber to approve the va requested
by Plr. Pa tri tell i. Mrs. Suber asked if there were any deed restrictions on the
lot. Mr. Na91e stated no e that he knew of. M1lrs. Suber suggested that perhaps
the City Lommi ssi on should re e this neighborhood if the zoni nq is improper.
Mr. Nagle s ted the tomprehensi ve Plan update would be s ted s and o e the
Comp Plan i aadop ted the z inq regulations would also bets sed.on Na91e
stated perhaps another zoning category between the R-1 and RV1A wool drbe considered.
Motion carried by a una n~mous roll call vote.
4. Public Hearin - V-2-86 - A lica nt: Louis J. Patri cel li. Owner: 61enn R.
and Loreda Steele. Location: 5 side of Re der v Lot 4 (less E 90 FT of
Lot 4) and E 90 FT pf Lot 3, Block 2, Plat of W. Wil dnere). Request to con-
struct a single fans ly rest dente with 1500 sq. fE, of living ar in lieu of
required 1800 sq. ft. of li vi nq area in an R-lA zoning tlis tri ctea
board of Adj us tmen[ -2- May 12, 1986
Mr. Lewis opened the Public Nearing and d'i spl ayed proof of publication. Mr. Nagle
stated the va request was for the lot adjacent to the one just approved for
a single farm ly rest dente with 1500 sq, ft, of living area.
Motion by Dr. Pearl, seconded by Mrs. Sober, to close the public hearing. Motion
carried by a unanf moos roll call vote.
Motion by Mr. Labl e, seconded by Or. Pearl, to approve the va requested
by Mr. Pai ri cel li. Motion ca ri ed by a roll call vote CeMrs Steele,
r of the two properties a ved and apologized stating M1e had had a flat tire.
MrneS teele was informed that bath the variances were granted.
5. Public Hearin S ec~ial _P_e_rmit - Location: Land ly in9 on Hwy. 1]-92 between
Fl orf a'd Avenue and Longdate Avenue. A lica nt: Kim Nackett. Owner: Sam Swo e.
(Cpu rtesv Pontiac) Request to locate a temporary sa X trot ler
to sell used ca s until proposed Courtesy Pontiac facilf ty is in operation.
Zoni nq C-3. (Lois 1 and 12, Entvni nger Fa nns Adtl >1)
f1r. Fess stated the developer would install a 240 gallon temporary septic system
which would be pumped at least on week. Mr. Fess stated originally the
request was to place the trailer andadis pl ay ar n tat 12 only, hmvever, they
requesting an mendment to the request in that they would like to utilize
Lote11 for the display a and Lot 12 for the trailer. Mr. Fess ex pl airied that
Lot 11 would be paved forethe parking a a for the permanent Courtesy facility
and they decided to do the paving now and utilize the paved a ea for the temporary
display ar and fence it off front the construction ar and have the trailer
originally stated, on Lot 12. Nr. Fess stated they would hope the
to ipora ry sales and display ar would only be used for approximately 3 months.
Mr. flagle stated the Special Permit would only be good for six months if granted
but stated he would suggest tM1at if granted the Board of Adjvs tment would set
a time limit of 6 months o until Certificate of Occupancy is i sued, whichever is
less. P!r. Fess sta tetl curbs n9 would be installed on the display area to keep ca
from roll inq into right of way. Mr. Fess stated the trailer would be sc enedrs
with lance work and would be anchored as required by code. Mr. Fess stated the
trailer vrould be hands co peed accessible with a 1/12 sloped ramp.
Motion by Dr. Pea r1, seconded by Mrs. Sober to close the Public Nearing. Motion
carried by a unanf moos roll call vote.
Motion by Dr. Pearl, seconded by Mrs. 6homa to to grant tM1e Special Permit for
a temporary trailer and sales office as requested subject to the Land Planning
Agency tom fen ts, tla ted April 24, 1966, and subject to Mr. Nag le's comments dated
April L1, 1986. Motion carried by a unanf moos roll call vote.
Motion by Dr. Pearl, seconded by Mrs. Shoma to to amend the motion to inc lode
granting the Special Permit on Lots I1 and 12 in lieu of the original request
for Lots t and l2. Amendne nt to motf on carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
6, Public Hearin -Varian s-V-3-B6 Incdion: Land lying on Nwy. 1]-92 n r[M1 si tle
of F o pplf ca nt: Kim 4lackett. Owner: Sam Swope. Request for
[o sign ordinance. Zoning C-3. (Lots 2 and 11, En tzm in9er Farms
ndaiwi)Q5
Mr. Lewis opened the Public Hea ri nq and tli spl ayed proof of publication. Mr.
Lewis asked if there was anyone present who wished to speak for or agai nst the
There was n e present to speak against the vart antes. Itr. Fess
was present and spoke forrthe varf ante.
Boa rtl of Atljus tment _S_ May 12, 1986
Mr. Na91e stated that the Land Planning Agency had requested that the applicant
ask for a letter from GM stating that the apPl scant had no Choice in the s etc.
of the tle [ached signs due to GPI's requirements. M1ir. Nagle stated that the~i attar
ant back by Gfi did not specs fi tally address the question. Flr. Nagle stated he
spoke tp a reDresen tats ve of GM and stated that the conclusion he [ame to was
that both GM and the applicant would prefer that the va es be granted bas etl
marketing campaigns which show that the signs propgseeare what GM thinks
onabie far the s, However, Mr. Nagle stated, he belt evetl that the
botiomsii ne is that GM could make their signs meet the decision of the Board of
AdJusrnient. M1lrs. Suber asked i9 the reques [ed signs wi 11 be comparable in
to other signs for car lots? M1ir. Nagle stated they could possibly be, hove vere
the other signs could have been pe nni tted under other zoning ordinances. Mr.
Nagle asked that Che Board of Adjustment consider each va sing the s,
ri teria outiinetl by the State for granting of va ~MrCeCabl e, Mrs. Suber
and Dr. Pearl all reg1 stared co rn that grants ngs [heeva could set a
precedence. Mr. Nagle stated that the fascia signs on the building could be
reduced in relievi n9 the need for one of the va s. Plr. Nile stated
that the va ce for the sign within the vi ua1 tri angl ech as been withdrawn.
M1ir. Less stated the drawing wa rect and that the sign would noY be placed
within the vt soot triangle. Mr.s Feos stated the sign now located at the Sanfor0
location is 245 sq. ft. and the applicant would like to be able to relocate that
is ti n9 sign to the new location. Or. Pearl suggested reducing the s, pF si qns on
the boil ding. M1loti on by gr. Pea ri, seconded by Pirs. Suber, to close thee publ is
hearing. Motion carried by a una nt moos roll call vote.
Notion by Dr. Pearl, s onded by Mrs. Sober to approve the v e, ti steel as kl
n Mr. Nagle commen is ,ereques tad for 1 detached pole sign, 245~sgi ft, i
to be relocated from the Courtesy s'i to in Sanfo rtl, as Courtesy already leas esethis
sign. Motion carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
Motion by Mrs. Suber, s conded by gr. Pearl, to approve the va ce for the corporate
sign, 245 sq. ft. in size. to be 3] feet in het 9h t. Motion carried by a unanimous
roll call vote.
Motion by Or. Pearl, s conded by Mrs. Sober to deny the va requested for the
towel detached pole sign to be 3] feet in M1eight and approveneither a 31 foot
M1igh sign o a 26' high sign, the m of the sign to be approximately
l 1'3/A" X 11'3/4". Motion carried byiap unam moos ro 11 call vote.
Meti on by Mrs. Suber, seconded by Or. Pearl, tq grant the va requested
for four (4) detached pole signs, one for each entrance and onenon r of 1]-92
and Florida av ue due to the fact that they are directional signs.aoMO ti on ca ri eel
by a unam moos eroll call vote, fAOti on carried by a unanimous roll call vote, r
Mr. Lewis passed the qa vet to Dr, Pearl and made a motion to deny the va
listed es °6 and 86 on Mr. Neg1e letter, to allow the smeller de to chedl sales
s igrs to be placed 6 feet feet from the ground to the bottom of the sign, and
req uestxtl the signs be put on the buildings. Motion died for the lack of a second.
Mr. Lewis passed the gavel to Dr. Pearl and made a motion to deny the variances
li stod as :6 and q6 in Mr. Nagl e's letter and asked that the signs be placed on
the ground wi [h top of sign not m e than three (3) feet from the ground o
signs may be placed on the buildings. Seconded by Mr. Cable. Mott pn carried by
a unanimous roll call vote.
Board of Adjustment -4- May 12, 198fi
Mr. Lewis passed the gavel to Dr. Pearl and made a motion that the fascia signs ~-~G:
be limited to one side of the building and that the height of the fascia s19n be ~ .,
limited to 3 foot high letters, not to exceed 200 sq. ft. total. Motion carried
by a unanimous roll call vote. ~..~.~^'
Motion by Mrs. Saber, s con ded by Dr. Pearl that the total square footage of signs
granted by the va es tonight be the maximum penni tted total square footage of
signs on the siter~aMpti on carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
Variance listed as k9 on Mr. Na91e's letter was withdrawn by the applicant.
]. Additional Di scus si an Items.
Mrs. Bhgna to su9ges ted changing the board of Adjustment meeting night due to the
problem with lack of meeting ro It was the co of opinion of the Boa rtl
that the only other night that would not present anconfli ct to one of the members
would be a th a rs day night. Ms. Zambri infornied the Board that the Police Oepartmen[
and Boy Scouts use the Chambers on Thursday ev ni ng but she would recOnfiem the
Crime Vla tch meetings with the Police Depa rGnent and report back at next meeting.
flr. Pearl stated he did not believe the Monday meeting night would pose a problem
very often and su9ges ted lea vi n9 the meeting date on Monday.
8. Mee ti nq atlj Darned at 9:35 PM
Geri lamb ri, Deputy Li ty clerk
City Of Longwood, Florida