LPAMin09-11-96LAND PLANNING AGENCY
Longwood, FL
September ll. 1996
PRESET F. STAFF:
Richard E. Bullinetoo JohnlvL Brook, Dir_of Planning&Bnilding Serv.
Mervin Meltzer Cael D. Ooslive, Cily Planner
Barry C. Revels Johv Groenendael, Plxnnivg Aida
John Livs Uamar~s Cnrbel0. Planning SecrGery
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION-
Robert Webster
Jeff Dotson
Uavid Demetree
Sheldon Terry
I. CALL TO ORUER'.
The meeting was call to order by Chairman Bullingtan at 6-00 P.M.
2. APPROVAL OF THE Al1GI1ST Ia. 199G MRJUTES:
ML Bullington stated that hewould liketo reeorzunend an amendment [hero was vo
en that we were opev oz closed the puhlic hearing Mr. BullinErton
smted Than it should be menvoved in the minutes as public reeord_
Mr. Revels made a motion to approve the minutes for August 14. 1996 subjett to Mr.
Bullingtons recommendation. Mt. Lins sewntled the moriov and it passed unanimously.
~. SITE PLAN REVIEW -AAA OF'F[CE PARK, PHASE II -SP-05-96 -SOUTHWEST
CORNER OF FLORIDA CENTRAL, PARKWAY AND COMMERCE WAY
QUASI-1IIDICIAL MATTER'.
Mr. Goslinc stated shat Ihis property is aDProximately at the southwest corner ofFlorida
Cenrcal Parkway and Commerce Way. Tltis is a site plan that wen[ [hrongh the LPA
abou onlhse .This is phase ll. The s[aff report as providing to the LPA
embers and also othe applica s The scoff re ends [Ito LPA approval with the
ondition, that she applieavl put turf block in the parking spades adjeeenl to islands where
trees are located.
Tom Skelton with Nnerloan Civil Engineuing Co., stated hie name for the record- He is
the representan.e oftlie AAA Rosiness Center.
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Mr. Bulhngton asked if Mr. Tom Skelton has sewt the memo dated September 11. 1996.
Mr. Skelton replied the[ Fx has not by the owners did receive the mmno and that they
_ wan as rndmgt.
Mr_ Meltzer made a motion to recommend approving ofrho site plan that was xubmieted
with the rtalY recommendation of September 11. 199fi_ Mr_ Revels sewnded the motion
and it passed unanimously-
4. VAR[ANCE-CONSTRUCT ASiX POOT FENCE IN THEFRONS SETBACK
AREA AT'/44 INDUSTRY ROAD -VAR-04-9fi -QUASI-IUDICIAL MATTER
Mr_ Gosline stated Nat the applicant, Rodgers and Edmunds propetties. is seeking
permission to fence in their parking lot located at the north end of Industry Road. They
ere deniM a fence permit because it encroached into the setback area bur rha staff feU
titer they have other optic vailable w solve the vandalism problem The applicant has
provided ivPorniauon to indicate they havebeen vandalized on several ouasiona
Mr. Gosline stated there is e 20 Poot wide utility drainage easement along [he entire west
side of the lvdusinal Park which extends northward to Raven AVe. The property iv
Ivduetry Rd. have fences. all but three The applicant is one that down t have v fence
alone the drainage easement of the west side of his propery so that allows persons to
trererretha area.
Mevy swdente use [he easement to walk to Longwood Elementary School and it being av
isolated area does not justify the need to tlnce iv the entire parking area to provide
curity for the business- A 6-POOL Pence could be constructed along the rear west
property live the side pmperry lines end up ro the Mont se[beck line without a variance
Mr. Bullington asked whether ehe [bnee that the applicant wants to erect would it block
the a s. Mr. Gosline rated that cold not bec a the fEvoe Net ehey w vt ea erect
woultlcheve e geee whiohswould be open during work'mg hours
Mr. Ooslive explained that the applicant could erect a fence 25 f t back from the street
rightbC-wzy Line without gemvg a verienae Howevu, the Pence would be in the middle
oftheirparkinglot and loading; a. Thissnuauon would present seat us parking and
loadin¢ opera ion problems.
Mr-Meltzer asked what the applieavt's ahernetive is. Mr. Goehne explained that it is the
steR's opini other the noPa fence along the back property would elimineteaccess
from the utility easement evd reduce theopportnnitias for vandalism.
Mr_ David Wright representing Rodgers & Edmunds Propettiea staeed his name Por tfie
recoed. Mr. Wright stated Nat he had personally observed juveniles accessing the
yam yr wgNG~.2,u~rss _
propeny from rhea and using the parkinK area for skateboardinK and illici[
i Hef'eele ehetconsruuion of the fnce along the front property line would stop
this pr'ecttce.
A propenyow er decdedro urityfnce around the Eontpui rofthat
property, ie, lots 9C and IODc The fencewould be wnstrvued from one corner oPthe
building on the north end around to lot lOD to the east and 9C. The request Por the
tails placement oPthe fence across the fiont setback of the boundary line of
bodfllots end propeny.
Mr. Meltze made a to disagree with the staff re endati and to end
approval of the Verien~eo Mr. Revels seconded tlsa motion and it passed unanimously-
5. PUBLIC HEARING -ORDNANCE 96-132'1 TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING
MAP TO 8E CONSISTENT W 1TH THE COMPREHENSIVF. PLAN -
LEGISLATIVE MATTEIL
Mr. Gosline began by statinK that the adoption of the Comprehensive Plan in 1993
stablished land use designations for every parcel of land in the City pursuant [o the
nandtes of chaptu I63. Pen 1I, Florida SYetutes. Once adop[lon ofehe Plen was
ompleted, the Ciry should have adminisratively rezoned all the parcels of land on which
the zoning classification was not wnaistent with the lend use designa ion in the Plaa This
step was never accomplished for a variety oCreasons.
The proposed Ordinance 96-132] will amend the Official Zoning Map oPthe City to make
all the z ning on all the parcels in the Ciry co with the Comprehen ve Plan
required by Chaptu I63 3202. Florida Stamtes.stHetrefured the LPA and the audience to
map Prepared by the staRwhich identified all the properties subject w change and will be
Exhibit A to the Ordinance-
Mr. Gosline also explained that the specific zoning category allowed for a land use
designa is Bete ned by the Land Use Designation / ZoninS classifcation matrix on
paSes IIlo32 and ILI-33 of the Comprehensive Plan's Goals. Objectives end Polices
doe t. In most rases-there is only on ning category fora given land ute
designa n. Ho.v n those few owhere a than one zo ring to the least
reatncnve eeteyory available for that land use designa oa
Mr. Gosline stated that the Dublic hearing has been duly advertised in the Sanford Herald.
He also stated that the Ordinance has been scheduled for a first reading/public hearing by
the Commission on October ], 1996_
Chairman Bnlling[on opened the public hearing and asked whe[lier anyone pretent wished
to speak in favor of Ordinance 96-132'1. No one present indicated the desire to speak in
~. one.. em,.pa-,trn~lras
r var nfine ommance.
Mr. Robert N. Webster. 3435 Holiday wvenue. Apopka. FL 12]03 asked.vhether the city
adopteda Comprehensive Plan whioh was contrary to theirown zoning laws. Carl
responded that acwrding to Chapter 163, Pen 11, Florida Statures it is the
Comprehensive Plan which controls the zoning nos viceversa. The zoning regulations
simply implement the Plen.
Mr. Webser sated that changing the zoning ohanged the value oPthe propeny and chat
ihei etal in erred property of which ar arced in this regard. He
claimed that changing the zoningwes depn ing someone of a proparry right which was
ovally theirs. He stated that he thought the proposed anion was taking of
p~opa'ny under the Fifth Amendment of U S. Conmtution and was e violation of Seciton
1983 of the Civil Nghrs Act.
Mr. Webstu also stated that the lames A. Centralia Trust. 114 Mingo Trail, Longwood
objects [o the proposed rezoning end wishes to be considered an aff ed person pursuant
to Cheptu 163.3184. Florida Statutes. He staled that "- phis has a goss effett nn the
value ofthere properties end a lawsuit would wst much more than whet somebody is
trying to accomplish iv this particular Plen.." He also said `.. this is essentially snorting
thevelue ofthasa people's property because it doesn r conform ro somebody's mep_:
Mr. Gosline responded that the value of the property was created when the Plan was
adopted in 1992 end that Chapter 163 3202, Florida Statutes requires the Ciry's lend
development regulations to bec with the land use designations in the
Comprehensive Plau. Ordinance 968132] simply discharges the Cty's statutory obligation
iv this regard.
Mr. Gosline stated that the Plan was adopted pursuant to the state statutes. Pan of these
requir umber of public workshop and hearings betty en 1990
and I992ceFurthermore, all these workshops and hearings were advertised, o9en with
quarter page ads in the newspaper.
Mr_ Gosline said that he thought it was very important that everyone understand that thus
o taking of private propeny in this matter. The Ordinance is only complying withthe
andates of sta to get the z ting on the subject properties wvsistent with the
lend use designs gone in the City'e Plan.
Chairman Hull'mgton sakes whether anyone else wishes to speak in opposition w
Ordinance 96-13?]. Mr. fell Dotson, 16]5 Kingston Road, Longwood. FL 32]50
identified himself es representing Carol B. Harpu and CM] Properties who own a parcel
at 125 Mingo Trail He srated the property perceives the changes as fl down zoning,
thereby reducing the propeny value.
Mr. Gosline responded tnet the mason that his property. and several others in the Mingo
Trail aaa en being ohanged is that the Comprehensive Plan designates these properties as
Light Industrial. In additioa the Plan establishos the coasistency between the land use
designaton and the zoning categories in a matrix found on pager III-32 and 111-3J oPthe
Goals. Objectives end Polities portion oClhe Plea The only zoning category which ie
consistent with this land use designation is I-I.
Mr. Gosline atod further thet,c ernl other property owners in the audiencethink many
of these parcels in this area should have av lndunrial land use designation. lyre staff
would not necessarily disagree with that position. However, the question ofthe eorteet
laud use designa of germane to this heating If a property owner wants to change
the use designationnhe mux file an application and conPonn to the process outline in
Chapter 163 3184. I6; ~ I B] and 163.3189. He Bttthor staled that Mr_ Brock had
preliminary wnversetwns in this regard with Mr- Deme[rea.
Mr. Dotson ergnerl that the Comprehensive Plan land use designation should reHeat the
zoning map. The zoning map was iv place before the Plav was adopted-
Mr. Gosline stated that accoMing to Florida law, the Comprehensive Plan is predominant
r the ning map. That s, ifthere onflia betty o the Plan land rise designa
and the z ~ing designa n, the Plan preeeils. As such. ay disc n about land us
designations must takeplace in the plan amondmen[ process not the zoning processe
Furthermore. the process to change the Plan is deliberately very cumbusome to protect
property owners from having their land use designation changed "ovetnighi'.
Mr. Mcltze anted that there us Hearings and adve is during the
Plan adoption process and virtually nobody came Potwerd to object to the land use
designations in the Mingo Trail area. He questioned why they were doing so after four
yearo.
Mr. Brock saiU that he suggested to Mr_ Dentetree m get all Neowners in the arts to
becomeapeny to the application to amend the Plan The only areas ofcomplaim about
the zoning are in the Mingo Trail area.
Mr. Shel[on Terry, a property owner a[ 115 Mingo Trail, also spoke in opposition.
How t oPhis eonversatton was not recordod because hewas not at the
miunphone~
Mr_ Brock intujeeted that ell rho discussion should betaking place iv the plan amendment
process. We c a permit for any use which ie not consistent with the Plan. He
further stated thet~idoesn't make evy difference what the zoning n>ap sayr.
obligated by state law to be that any permits whidt ere issued are consistent with the Plan.
The only appropriate channel for these aReaed property owners to take is the plan
amendment prooess.
Mr. David Demetree. a property ow on Highline Drive, said that he was not aware of
the land use change- Ho expressed wncern that tba advertisements were in the Sanford
F{erald end that many people do nos read the Huald. He indicated they were willing w
submit an application end go through the plan amendment procesb
Mr. Webster asked whether every property ow m due pro e shat this
ning was going to be changed. Mr. Gosline statedethat Chapter 166 041 (3), Florida
Stet es provides the notifica on pro ss POr ning Essentially_thin process requires
publica nofthe eof then ting in wspapar which is published at least five
days per week fot plan amendnte and eomprehen ning such as Dropoeed by
Ordinance 96-I i2"1- If individual peroels ere seeking rezoning, the Chy mails diroot notice
[o [he property owners in the area as well as advertising in the newspaper.
The City.. and most local governments in Seminole Cowty, use the Sanford Herald far aII
legal ads. the Herald was chosen by the City Commission because it meats the
requir sot rhea end the wise tabou ethird ofe. miler ad in the Sentinel
The edoptnon oPthe Plant and all oPthe amandmentsnsinoethea have followed the
statutory notice prooess.
Mr. Revels asked how long it takes to process a plan amendment. Mr. Gosline responded
thaz the process requires a minimum of nine months to wmplete the process
Mr. Revels expressed contain that the Mittgo Trail property owners were losing Tots of
oney during the time period it sakes to process a plan amendment Mr_ Gosline said that
these property owners were not losing money because the exisdng use of the property is
graudfathered in and can continue so long as the property does not stay vacant for more
than 180 days.
The stat£ has met with Mr. Terry on sa~eral occasions and have explained his options in
writing. Mr. Terry can lease the building for any use permitted in the l-l zoning district
Mr. Brack again smted that the Plan wa. propuly adopted in 1992 and the City must live
with the land use designation until it is changed through the proper amevdmem process.
Wa cannot process an amendment in any other way.
Mr. Dots asked that if their plan meadment Rom Light Indus rialto Indus rial is
granted. would they hev o then e the property to I-? 7 Mr_ Brock answued it
could be processed some what simultaneously.
Mr. Webster asked whether someone Rom oueaide the City is ditxaeing the plan. Mr_
Gosline explained again that the Plan was developed through axrensive public pertiuparion
and ultimately approved by the City Commission in 1992.
Mr. Webster again expressed co n about the notificarion proc ss for the Plan. Mr.
Bullington explained chat the queaxeon about the no[ioe requirements is a legitimate one.
but of panincnt to this disc n. Mr. Brock also statod that all oPthese arguments
about the Plan must be made durinS~he amendment process and have absolutely nothing
to da with the subject of the hearing.
l'he public hearing was closed. Mr. Meltzer moved that the LPA find that the proposed
ning map changes are consistent with their respective land use designations on [he
Future Land Use Map: that the changes are necessary to comply with the requirements of
Cnapter 16l 3202, Florida Statutes; and that the LPA rewmmwd approval of Ordinanu
96-1321 to the Ciry Commission. Mr. Bullington puseU the gavel to Mr_Meltzer and
seconded the motion. The monon passed onenimously_
6. AD)OURVIvIENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 7:2U P M.
Minutes Approved~~c to bei y~996
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