LPAMin06-26-96LAND PLANNING AGENCY
Loagwooa, Florida
Jane 26, 1996
PRN:SENT: STAFF:
Richard E. tluilington, Chairman John Brack, Dir. of Planning& Building Serviees
Marvin Meltzer, Viee Chairman Damflris Corbelo, Dept. Secretary
John Llns
Barry C. Revels
Guest: Richard Taylor. City Atwrney
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was call to order by Chairman Bulling[on at 6:02 P.\I.
2. Further consideration of the conditional Use Permit (CU-Oi-961 for Harbor
Automotive, Inc. to operate an automobile repair faeility in Bnywootl Industrial
Park.
VIr. Brdlington stated for the rewrd that they are just an advisory board. so whatever
decisions are made, ie would still have to 6o to the Longwood Ciry Commission for final
approval Mr-BUllington asked Mr Brock to briePthe Land planning Agency on the
srtuahon with regards to Harbor Automotive [nc
Mr. Brock said that he s had the opDOrtunity to mew on Mondny afternoon with the two
mays representing both sides in the issue with CU-0496 Conditional Use Permit Cor
Harbor Automotive Inc- Mr. Massey is [he Attorney representing the applicant, and Mr-
lames Gustino represents Longwood Green Subdivision. Mr. Brock did not know as a
esult of that tivg whether the rneysw negree with suggest sthet he
mach at the meeting. Mr. Brock warned the applieent to comply with those on
endetions wncerning vegetativ uvdpmofing and vegeaative aesthetics at the
LPA mewing on Jone2G. 1996. Whether~he attorney Por the applicant could even
omply with so a oPhis endati ns by that ning w Mt Mazsey
has eomplie0 with Mr. Brock e~uggest and MrVBrock stated thanhe kels
omPOnable with proceeding the LPA meetin& What he tried to uplain et that meeting ov
`Monday aflern with Cher mays was that when you look at the language in the
adopted Comprehensive PlanWthere ere two possble intaryretetions. Mr-Brock had also
explained to Jia two attorneys the way he menages his department. Ifet any time there is
n opinion rendered from the Ciry Plannu, Code Enforcement OBicu or tiro Ciry euildivg
Oflcial, unless that opinion or recommendation is in his mind erroneous. he will not
mda rhat endati n. He stated that acts happen to be one of those situations
where Mr- (iosline and Mr-Brock have two different interpretation of wlia~ s implied by
the language ofthe Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Brock said there is reasonable room for two
difiment interpretatrons.
Mr. Brack staled that on Page III-4l, Light Industrial (purpore). the purpose of this
Light [vdustriel District is to provide sulflcien[ flees in appropriate locations for limited
'industrial operations engaged in the light matmfheturing. reoe r or s[oragc oPmavutettured
uooda, oPsuch value that no objectionable by-prodnets of [he activity (i e., smoke- dust
refuse, odors. radio interference, n nod outside storage) ar cad beyond
[helot on which the fadlity/Projes~is IocatedttThen Mr. Brock directed the board to the
xt page where he had highlighted item](P)which says developme in Wis diso-int shall
be limited to. (v'7 Spacial exception (refer to Zoning Code) (wholesale reran sale of above
or Hvished products)- Mr_ Brook emphasized that there is room in this language for twv
sepere terprw sof whet the Comprehensive Plan is telling us: his interpret
that there is w[ough verbiage in this Comprehensive Plan to allow this use as a wad ~ional
Mr. Brock rewmmends that this Conditional Use (CU-04-96) be approved on two
conditions'. (a) that the applicant finnisn adequate assurance and reeommendatione Nom a
registered landscape architect that plantings wn be inmlled on thesubject property to
mitigate any objectionable noise; anU (b)tha[ the applicant agree to plen[ing additional
ees forthe purpose oPaasthe[ica (i.e, breaking of the view of the rear of the moral
building)-
Mr. Massey stated his name for therecord- Ha is the Aaorney for Hetbor Automotive
Ine_ He states that he !eels that this is a permit[ed use according to the code- He said that
the LPA does have the right to place some conditions on how this business should be
operated- He also stated that he took it upon himself to check out the property to see
whet theyw cup against He staled that after themeeting with Mr Brock and Mr_
Gustino he was pressed for time in gGting some infnnnation to help their case end to be
able to hand out et the LPA meeting. Mr Massey got the required inPOrmetion Nom Paul
Verlevder who i e Landscape Architect in Altamonte Springs. Mt Massey handed
copies out to the LPA to explain their situation. Mr. Massey try to explain all that the
architect said was that screening and hedges would work as far as sound proofing. That
s what Mr Velez planned w do, to sound proof the building and put up such trees for
the visual aspect oP[he site Mr_BUllinynon questioned about the 25'highs 20'wide live
oak trees end are they going w be that big when planted or is it going to take l to 5 years
to bethat largep
Alr. tins questioned about the noise- He wen[ed to know if it will block out ell the noise
after all the work is done or wdll i[ just block out some of itp Mr. Massey stated that he
really didn't know whet the out-coins es going to be.
j1r, Gustino stated his name for [he record. He is the Attorney repres rte Longwood
Greav Subdivision. Hes[etedthmthe code is quite explicit and doesn't reflect ambiguity
here Mr.Gustino read Page 111-48 From the Comprehes[sive Plzn whinh he feels is quiet
unequivocal, i[ says that development in [his distric[ has been limited to the following uses.
(F)Special Exception (rcf ro Zoning Code)(wholesale, re[eil sale ofabove or Enished
products)_Sa for lhoee reasons they believe that the prey nofthe Comprehensive
Plan is quit explict end precludes this conditional use pwm rve'Chey believe the proposed
atisfnetory, evd it does not address [heir concerns about the noise. Mr.
Gus no also stated there's no indication here ro give a reliance that rho level of noise
is going to be raducod to an acceptable level end the Plen states there is to be NO noise
Mr. Gusting requested for those reasons that the Conditional Usa Permit (CU-0496) be
denied.
Mr. Richnrd Taylor, City Attorney, said that both Attorneys have made good points.
He said that the Comprehensive Plan says no pyjgvAioriabte by-products. He feels that it
is the duty evd the job of this LPA to decide whether or not this buffer that has been
propaved will eliminate vat all noise but all objeaional noise projecting Rom the property.
Mr. Revels said that iv 3 to 5 years there might be sound reduction, but for right now
he's concerned about the size of the creel. Mr. Ballivgtov atatW that he Itad a problem
with Cher endati not approval. We haveaproposal ROm the landscape architect
saying tnatche can reduce the sound levels, butwa bar no indicedov from anyone that it
wlI be reduced by a little or e whole lot, and Ns covicem is chat once the businevs is open
tt will be too late to do enyNing
Mr. Meltzer said if Mr. Velez is open fiom ~ e.nt to J p.m. the basi<noise problems
would be liminated from the evening, and that's where mon ofthe wnoem is. Fle Peels
that during the day the noise fxctor should not be much of a problem:. [he noise fxcror
should be more towards the evening when the families are hcma_
The LPA recommends that the architect attend the ne.:t meeting to explain the sound
reduction with the buffo and the treas. Mr. Melzer made a motion to table omit the next
me ring on July 10, 1996 at b'30 P M. The motion died Zack of a second.
Mr. BUllingto Hades motion to deny re evdation of approval to the City
Commission for Conditional Use Pannit (CU-04-9~ on the ground of ivsutficient
inform [o determ e that the objec[iovable noire will be limited to the owner s side.
Mr. Revels second the motion, end it pasved by 3 to I vote.
Adjm,rnma,t: The meeting was adjourneA at J20 pm
Minmos Approved _----~/~fG
1,PA Chairman ~chot~~~i.~J./~
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