LPAMin11-11-92The meeting was called to order at 7:05 F.M. by Chairman
artl member. then briefly i rotluced M ickelman t
the other B and members? ickelman has been appo istetl to Eill
the vacancy created in Di. t[i.cOt 2.
3. A m made t approve the m of the September 9,
1992 m ling wand s ontled by John Simpson. Motion passed by
4. t Capital Corporation Site Plan E nsion Aequest
Applicant: Robert H Capital Corporation
Engineer: Hollis Engiveerinq ation: Southno£~ERE434,
of Florida Central Parkway LZOning: i-2 ing U
zoposed Use: Offices/Warehouse AequestC To extend
srte plan permit for another year.
Chairman Meltzer i roducetl the first project and requested that
ami go o the staff c aid that this is
jvstJa request. These eMpro jest had been r wed
and approved previously a x phasers e plan but w retluced t
Phase 1 a period of timel Trte r ing phases a o longs
valid due t the expiration of t 1the s e plans nPhase 1
of a approximate 35,OOOySF office /lw rehouse builtlingA
Chairman Meltze[ asked when the project w expected t and
Mi. Jami aid 'when the ney sed up s little". o This
onEirmed by the project engines[ Chairman Meltzer requested that
the engineer step forward. roduced himself a vitl & o£
Hollis Engineering antl Hted nthat they w called whennst he
project w the verge o£ expiring and w asked by the props ity
submit a request fora additional year.
orporation said that they had n t been able to proceed with this
project because they w able t aE ford it but that they would
it b.i.n this yearn if ithe extension ws granted. Chairman
Meltzer asked i£ this was the first extensron and Mr. Jami said
lA Duly and Mr. J
Chairman Meltzer asketl i.f there w any £urtrter questions. With
o further questions he then askedefor a approve tRe s
plan e n for Phase IA fora addit ionaln yeas. Mi. Oi.c kelman
made theem antl i onded by Mr. Simpson. Mutton carried
by unanimous loll call vote.ec
this point Chai iman Meltze z, before going to the strt it the
agenda, asked if he could request i cognition for those LPA members
who had just left after having s vetl for s ral years and Mi.
Semi said that it would be ie{erred to the City Commission.
5. Amendment Ordinance to Sec[iov 404.2A and 606.28
urpose: reduce the levgth of approval time for building
projects less than 10,000 SF. 0.eques [ed by: Design Rev rew Board
Members.
Chairman Meltzer s ted that a the past m ing he had requested
that c things be addressed, points that Re felt w cal
and heesa id ntrtat the s ordi nanca i ing back beforeet
ith n changes. Ne said that he still feels tRat if s eohas
w large parcel of land and chooses to develop oless than
10,000 SF i oid the s andard site plan procedure this
ould bet saprobl em, itROUt input from the various
departmentse regard impacts traffic, tilities and
aid that he and M Wells had discussed this
vely and decided i take the Ordinance City
orporating LPA's c letting City C
ha eis and then i ould c e back with the language
o LPA if that wn u the way that City Commission chose to pursue i
Mr. J aid he didn't know i.f i appropriate, a this t
ask tRe City Attorney a the City sC n Ratl di retied ithe
City Attorney to draw up the Ordinance.o Chai [man Meltzer asked if
the City c of [. t the time of this
ieque and M aidwn aid tRat wR n the ordinance went
back to City Commission LPA's concerns would be atldressetl by the
City Commission at that time.
Chairman Meltzer aid he felt that 404.28 w rehashing old
problems. e felt sthis would c opportunity to qo back t
administrative ing. He m ned na par cul ar c
and Mi.soJami aid proper of ication Rad sheen done
ording t the requirements. aid that a tudy had been done
byte sultant and it w s the i endation o£ the c sultant t
make cihis land change eCpart of the
He told M Meltzer that that pan is ul ar ss tof
therordinance tlealt s ctly with site plan, that it was not a land
use or a zoning matter.
impson addetl that St w s his c n tRat the decision n t be
politically m ted. referrednt the last paeagrapR i the
proposed ordinance addressing "political s ity". aid
that he felt that politics should n t play na apart t wDether a
request is granted or denied for a e plan and w ted t make
sure that this was addressed. tte saidi that the City Administrator
eeded t understand that the decision needed to De Dasetl o the
of the plan and n whetRer o the plan w s politically
offensive.o aid that that w s the i ent.
ns Simpson suggested th tr if alplan w submittetl for and arge
parcel of land that a limit be put o submittals o specific
period of t vola any conflicts o empts t the
m of oa regular s e process.at aid uthat twhat
thet e arrd nneeded to do w s put antl he would
orpoiate r o his letter to rthe nCity mCOmmission and they
ould always ref ertback t them notes if they needed m e specific
information i regard t the LPA~'s c Chairman Meltzec said
that hew ted to be s that developer ould n t be shortcutting
the process by doingu less than 10,000 w F building t
-Choi noon Simpson suggestetl that if a e plan is grantedn£or
10 COOO S that they n t be allowed to reque t another o rthout
having to go tRrough the regular site plan approval siteeprocess.
. Oickelman asked if the only other discussion period i volving
this proposed ordinance had been a the pre s LPA meeting and he
s told yes. -ickelman then asked out uof all the projects
chat the city Rad done in the last five years how many of them fell
under the crrterra of this ordinance and Mr. Jamr said that 808 0£
istzict w ould c inly w a 10,000 SF building o n less
Dthan this gow chrough the regulars e plan process and then asked
i£ the H c District should be excluded from the proposed
OrtlinanceystChairman Meltzer said that Re didn't know why i ould
be excluded. ickelman said that i the proposed ordinance the
Mbroaden the cep[i the mal application
procedure fo~ small s where the nl and a s less than 10,000
ted that Chairman Meltzer hatl asked whether a 10 a
pa rcel ewith a , 0 SF building would still be excluded and Mr.
building, particularly the x District, ould have
endow impac o go throughstheln mal procedure. Mr.
Jams asked iE ickelman w saying rthat if ,00o SF
building, s s going t endows impact, snoula
qo througR theen mal procedure c which is epresently the abnormal
procedure o£ D and City Commission and M ickelman said
"yes tRnt would be Phis opin It would Eurthec be Ris opinion
that the exception be broadened to include <ommerci al and
eed t expedite the process. His c that w might
be o erbroadening t nclutle s any c tegories sand excluding
things of fairly significant s e from the n rural building process.
Simpso asked what would rhappen if the number w changed t
5 OOO SF and CRai rman Meltzec asked what would happen if i
changed t the s of the land to prevent t impson
agreed antl said either way so that there coulda be s e kind of
ontio 1. impao aid that i ould be c roll ed oby the s
of the lantl o the s o£ the building plus the number of t
they c Meltzer asked s ickelman if he w suggesting
that w e tleviating from the n mal process and M ickelman
said 'nos'e but that we are attaching the exemption or exception
process to ina nnilainq s ana n the s o£ the lang.
aid the i oe giv reli e£ t mall developers.
ickelman tnen tasked twhat woulde trigger c ncy and M
Jami DSaid any project would, if r thousand
cnairman Meltzer said he Ras a problemwwitn any project tnat i
o£ a major impact that does n e be£oie LPA or City Commissions
Chairman Meltzer called for a and M Dickelman asked that
before made he wishetl make that the
language del eting wre£erence t the r ing city c and
replacing it with City Administrator be approved and Sns904s2B the
e language change eetled. Mr. aid that it w
sary t make a t but i ted that it w
goodsto nave i the r ord.r impson cmatle nthe m that
end that the application process be m netl oa the
of otne s opposed t the s o£ the building ands that
thee itbe as sed Eiom 101000 BF t M[.
ickelman seconded tne[mot[on. Motion carrietl unanimous roll call
Chairman Meltzer asked if there w any further business and Mr.
impson asked about the N vember 23rd meeting. rmously
decided to postpone until after the Thanksgiving tholidayan'
Chairman Meltzer added that he nod been appointed to the Seminole
County Affordable Housing Committee.
The meeting was adjourned at 8.13 P.M
Respectfully submitted,
Cathy J Price
Administrative Secretary