LPAMin02-26-83LAND PLAIIN ING AGENCY
LONGW DOD, FLORIDA
February 26, 1983
The Land Planning Agency held its regular meeting at ]:30 P.M. in the Longwood City
Cemni ss ion Chambers.
Present: H. N. Haynie, Chairman
Emery Mei neke
Robert Nanmond
Harvey Smeril son
Harry Lindsey
R. A. Bryant, Building Offi cf al
Geri Zambri, Recording Secretary
1. The meeting was cal letl to order by Mr. Haynie at Z:30 P.M
2. ADDroval of Minutes of January 26, 1983 meeting: Mo[i on by Mr. Meineke, s cond
by Mr. Hammond to approve the minutes of January 26, 1903 meeting as written, eMOt i on
carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
Mr. Haynie called for the election of officers for 1983.
Nomination for Chairman: Motion by Mr. Hammond, seGOnd by Mr. Haynie, to nom nate
Mr. Mei neke for Chairman. Motion by Mr. Mei neke, s and by Mr. Smeri lson, torn na to
Mr. Haynie for Chairman. Members we asked to votecgn the no nation of Mr. Mei neke -
Mr. Mei neke wa elected Chairman by aefour to on roll call vote, with Mr. Hammond,
>P Mr. Nayni e, Mrs Smeri ison and Mr. Lindsey voti ngeaye antl Mr. Mei neke voting nay.
Nomination for Vice Chai nna n: Motion by Mr. Smeril son, second by Mr. Hammond to
hate Nr. Haynie Vice, Chai rman. Motion ca ri ed by a roll call vote.
IJpm inati on for Secretary: Motion by Mr. Hammond, secondu banMmouHaynie to nOms nate
Mr. Smerilson, Secretary. Motion carried unanimously.
3, cONDIT [ON AL USE REpUEST SUBM [TTED BY PETERSON FINE CARS TO OPERATE A USED LAR SALES
BUS ttiE33 GY-6 S V GE L URT. Location: West side of Savage Ct. Mr. Peterson's son
s present to represent Peterson Fine Cars.
This request came before the LPA due to the fact that a Used Car host ness is
Conditional Use in C-3 and the the property at 600 Savage Court hat been brought to
a C-3 status by the Future Land Use Map. Mr. Bryant presented the request saying
that the used ca would not be kept on outif de tot but would be housed in the
building and there would not be many ca n Mr. Bryant also statetl that the Fire
Marshal had inspected the property and the business was ,n ompli ance with fire codes.
Motion by Mr. Smeril son, s and by Mr. Hanmond Lo r end approval to Conant ssion for
the Londi ti onal Use requestcby Peterson Fine Cars, eMOti on carried by a unanimous roll
call vote.
4. SITE PLAN AEV [S [ON FOR MEDICAL OFFICE BU ILDiNG TD BE LOCATED ON SOUTH SEM[NOLE
of SR 434, South of W. Warren Avenue and pest of (Jest Lake Street. Mr. John McClellan,
Mr. Jim Burns, Mr. flab Bl umentri tt of HCA, Mr. Steven Keith of C. A. Gardner 8 Co. and
Mr. Tom Rogers of Gould turner present to represent HCA.
~ Iqr. Bryant presented the revised site plan and stated the drawings show a change from
the four office buildings located at the southeast co r of the property to a three-
story boil ding directly east of the hospital and tdat a red walk would be provi tled
between the two buildings for use by patients and doctors OVeMr. Bryant stated that at
them en t, NCA is not positive they wi 11 u e this r setl c cept, but woo ltl like
the City's approval if they opt to choose this revs sl on to place of the previously
approved four building co cept.
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Mr. McClellan of HLA explained that they ar not su a at this time that they can locate
the Medical Office 6uil ding as shown on theere sedrDl an due to the expected expansion '~
of the hospital, however, they would like approval of the re sed plan with the ~ntler-
standing that they could always revert back to the original c cept Of the four
separate office buildings. He stated their intention was to do the best thing possible
for the hospital and its possible expansion. Mr. Mei ne ke questioned whether they
intended to go higher than the three stories. HLA stated no and if they needed more
office space, another bni td ing would be built. HCA also stated they altered the
driveway which brings it to a outherly position and have widened the road to
three lanes, two in and one ou toreNCA stated they felt the re sed plan wa abetter
plan but it was Just a question as to whether it would fit invwithout hampering the
g rawth Of the M1ospi tal. Mr. Smeril son asked if there was anything which would
differentiate the hospital parking from the MOB parking. HCA stated there would be
curbing to separate the Dorking ar Mr. 3me ri lson said his co as that the
traffic got nq to the Emergency Roomami ght mistakenly park in the M06rpa rki ng lots.
NCA replied there was very distinct si gnage to indicate the Emergency Room. NCA stated
the Emergency Room signs would very distinctly indicate the Emergency entrance to be
fran West Lake Street and would be bright red lettering while the Hospital Sign would
be earthen tones. However, in the event so into the 434 entrance, they
would still be able to get to the EmergencymROOm easel y. Ownership of the M06 was
questioned. HCA stated they will probably sell office condominiums, but the land wi 11
n the ow ers hip of HCA with deed restrictions imposed on the buyers. Mr.
Li nds eyestated he felt the three-story concept was an improvement over the original
plan.and said he felt NCA should do everything they can to retain the re sed concept,
perhaps ev vi ng the building farther to the east. XCA said they would do every-
thing theyecould to nse the re sed MOB plan. Chief Lhapman Of the Longwood Fire
Department stated that fire lanes were ne sa ry around the building and requested
they be shown immediately adjacent to Ghee but lding far fire protection. Mr. Haynie ~
suggested that HCA and Fire Department determine where fire lanes should be. Mr.
Mei neke asked if building would be sprinkled. HCA said they would work wf th local
codes to detenni ne if building must be sprinkled.
Motion by Mr. Smeril son, second by Mr. Lindsay, to re ortunend aDDroval to City Comni ssion
of the Revised Site Plan for the Medf cal Office Building to be located on the South
Seminole Medical Center site. Motion carried unanimously.
5. CONOIT ZONAL USE REQUEST FOR H[-RISE STRUCTURE FOR MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING TO BE
LOCA PED~auYN S M N ICAL C NTER sste - sudns tted by Hos p~ta orporati on of
location: North side of SR 434, South of W. Warren Avenue and West of West
La ke~Street. Represen tatf ves of HCA present (reference Item 4. above).
Mr. 6ryant exDlai ned that HCA is requesti n9 that the City approve the roof height of
three feet over the 35 foot limitation. It was stated that it was the c0 n of the
Fire Department that they would need the proper equi pmeni to reach that height in
order to re Chief Chapman of the Longwood Fire Oepartinent stated the
insurance fi reera tmngseof the City will be affected by every building above the 35
feet capabi if ty of the Fire DeparLnen t. Mr. Sme ril son asked if this rating affects
everyone in the Li ty and Chief Chapman replied yes.
Motion by Mr. Lindsey, s cpnd by Mr. Hammond, to recanmend approval to City Comni ssion
of the Conditional Use Request for the 38 foot het 9ht as requested by HCA. Motion
ied by a four to o vote, with Mr. Hammond, Mr. Lindsey, Mr. Haynie, and Mr.
Mei neke voti nq aye, andeMr. Smeri is on voting nay.
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6. CONptTIONAL USE RE UEST FOR HI RISE STRUCTURE FOR SOUTH SEMI HOLE HOSPITAL to be
located on South Seminole Medical Center site -submitted by HLA, Location: North
side of 3R 434, South of W. Warren Avenue and West of Wesi Lake S[reet. Representatives
from NCA present (reference Item 4, above).
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Mr. Tom Rogers of Gould Turner presented the Conditional Use requested by HLA and
aced that HCA had re ved a Certificate of Need for an addi ti Dnal 28 beds and
eetled to add another floor which exceeds the 35 foot limitation and said that
ven tual ty the hospital might ma out to 250 beds and would eventually go to
]8 feet which exceeds the max i mum height limitation of the City. He asked if there
a possibility of exceeding the 75 feet maximum height. He stated the hospital
will be a x story building ultimately and said he uncle rs to00 that NLA must satisfy
the City Lommissi on as to how municipal s mi9 ht be satisfied as pertaining
to health, safety, welfare, etc. Mr. Rogers~statetl that he was av re that the City
followed the Standard Building Code-19]9 and Life Safety Code-19]6 stated that these
codes we very restrictive when dealing with Institutional occupancy. Mr. Rogers
add ress etlesp e of the fire protection techniques of the hosPi tal building, i
3-hour fire protection between floors, m n structure minimum of two-hour, building
completely sprinkled, each floor zoned or compartmentalized, with one-hour fire doors
between io smoke detectors in rri dots, fire stairways, standpipes i ach Df
the stairways, valves at each fl oor~ all emergency systems and panels located in ne
asily accessible far firefighting, and a staff trained for emergency type o
situations.
Chief Chapman stated that all these systems may preclude the Fire Departrnent from having
to fight a major fire in mast instances, Gut that the Fire Department deals with the
fires that ar not contained by the sprinklers. HCA stated when the smoke detectors
and sprinklers went off, specific staff fire teams would respond maned iately. He
also stated they have 12 fire drills a year and hold training classes twice a year.
Chief Chapman stated there i pother health institution in the City where the Fire
Department has M1ad to respond to quite a few fire calls e en though they ar also
under NRS yuideli nes for trained staff for emergency sf tuati ons. Chief Chapman
stated Lhat although all these safeguards ar mandated in the code requirements, they
also malfunction and smoke can spread beyond the compartments while patients a
be in9 moved out of the ar a of the fire. Mr. Bi umi ntritt Said he has been in hospital
adm inistraYion far twelve years and has experienced 8 Yo 10 fires during this time
but because of the type of systems and training, the fires we all contained to the
particular room of the ff re and no Dati en is had to be ev cu ated. Mr. Lindsey stated
he felt a program should be en urag ed suitable for Longwood to bring facilities up
to the level at which se ouid be provided. Chi e{ Chu pman stated he just wanted
to make everyone aw re thatc the Fire Department cannot be effective without the proper
equipment to service a hui ldi ng the height being requested.
Motion by Mr. Smeril son, s cond by Mr. Naamond, to re nonend approval to City Commission
of the Conditional Use fore Hi-Rise for the South Seminole Hospital with the re mendation
that Li ty Loimni ssion and HCA resolve, t0 the Commission's satisfaction, how munaci pal
services v~ill be provided. Motion carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
Mr. Hammond asked to be excused for the remainder of the meeting.
]. VARIANCE REQUEST FOR AN INCREASE OF SIGNAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR WENOY'S OLO FASHIONED
HAMBURG R 5 AU N requested y Orlando Foods, Ltd. Location: West side of US iJ- ,
south Df Ai bens on's, north of Wil dmere Avenue.
Mr. Bryant stated that Wendy's is requesting to put up signs totaling 215 sq. ft., but
Ordinance No. 495 only allows 120 sq, ft, of sig na ge based Dn the fron tage of the
bvi idi ng. Mr. Bob Na rri s, the Architect for Wendy's, stated that the building will have
to be set back in of 100 feet from the Highway due to the ac road along
the front of the property and feels it is a hardship for Wendy's dueeto this setback
and the size of the si9nage permitted by the Ordinance and stated that their signs
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will not be visible enough at the sr ze permitted and therefore ar requestf ng larger
signs Lo allow the traffic to notice these signs some distance before reachi nq the
establishment. Mr. Harris also cited existing signs which ar much larger than that
allowed Wendy's. He stated they are asking for a fair cwnpeti ti ve position on the
hi gM1way. Mr. Smeri lson asked what larger signs Mr. Harris wa referring to and Mr.
Harris referred to the Burger King and He Bona lds' signs. Mrs Bryant stated that
they were sued before the present sign ordinance was adopted. Mr. Smeril son
stated he felt there wa on to have a sign ordinance if allowance is given this
type of a va request. rMrs Lindsey stated that environmental influence/aesthetics
should be considered because they affect the entire community. Mr. Smeril son stated
he did not feel Wendy's sales would be hurt by di sallowi nq the in asetl signage
because there are other means of advertising and a sign of this sort is ust for
location. He said he was against setting a precedent is ving a ce~for a larger
sign than is allowed by the ordinance because others wilt want the rsame allowances.
Mr. Haynie stated he felt we should abide by the sign ordinance.
Motion by Mr. Smeril son, second by Mr. Haynie to deny the Variance Request for an
signage square footage requested for Wendy's. Motion carried by a
unanimous roll call vote.
8. Meeting adjourned.
Geri Zambri, Recortli ng Secretary
Land Planning Agency
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