CAC_10-24-2019_MinsCity of Longwood
2019 Charter Advisory Committee
Longwood City Commission Chambers
175 West Warren Avenue
Longwood, Florida 32750
MINUTES
October 24, 2019
6:00 P.M.
Present: Chair Matthew McMillan
Vice -Chair Johnnie Richardson
Member Deborah Poulalion
Member Rex Anderson Sr.
Member Kate Crockett
Dan Langley, City Attorney
Michelle Longo, City Clerk
David Dowda, Police Chief
Lisa Snead, Finance Director
Absent: J.D. Cox, City Manager
1. CALL TO ORDER. Chair McMillan called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES — September 26, 2019
Vice -Chair Richardson moved to approve the minutes of
September 26, 2019, as presented. Seconded by Member
Anderson and carried by a unanimous voice vote.
3. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. None.
4. REVIEW OF CHARTER
A. ARTICLE X. MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS
Section 10.01 —Charter amendments
Member Anderson asked about 10.01(c) Charter review and whether the
member had to be from the Commission District. He also asked what the
cost would be to add these changes to the ballot.
Mr. Langley said if the Commission agrees to the proposed Charter
change the cost is minimal to add additional ballot questions.
Vice -Chair Richardson said if the Commissioner does not find anyone in
their district that wants or has asked to be a Board Member, then I
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believe he or she has the right to appoint anyone he or she sees wants to.
They should try and find someone in their district who is willing to accept
being a board member but have the ability to appoint outside their
district if needed.
Chair McMillan asked if the Commissioner had multiple applicants, one
from their district and another outside of their district, should the
Commissioner have the freedom to pick the one outside the district, or
should they be required to pick the one within the district.
Vice -Chair Richardson said he believes if the Commissioner has the
authority to appoint someone within his district then that should be his
or her first choice. If not, they should have the ability to appoint
someone from any district.
Discussion ensued on how the Commissioners should appoint Board
Members.
Mr. Langley pointed out that the City Code states how the Commissioners
appoint Board Members.
Member Anderson made a motion to add language that says a
Commissioner shall appoint a resident from within their
Commission District and if no one from their district has applied
or is interested they can then appoint from any district in the city.
Further discussion ensued on board appointments and clarification on
verbiage already in the City Code was reviewed.
Member Anderson withdrew his motion.
Member Anderson made a motion to keep the language of this
section as is. Seconded by Vice -Chair Richardson and carried by a
unanimous voice vote.
Section 10.02 — Standards of ethics reviewed with no comments or
recommendations.
Section 10.03 — Prohibitions
Chair McMillan asked for clarification on Section 10.03 (a)(4).
Mr. Langley said this is not a typical Charter provision. It is unusual to
have a Charter provision that regulates things of this nature. If we have a
provision in the Charter that is vague, it becomes difficult to enforce.
Discussion ensued on different laws and regulations against
discrimination and Section 10.03 (a)(4).
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Vice -Chair Richardson moved to remove Section 10.03 (a)(4) from
the Charter. Seconded by Member Crockett and carried by a four -
to -one (4-1) voice vote with Member Anderson voting nay.
Section 10.04 — Separability reviewed with no comments or
recommendations.
B. ARTICLE XI. TRANSITION SCHEDULE
Section 11.01— Continuation of former Charter provisions reviewed with
no comments or recommendations.
Section 11.02 — Ordinances preserved reviewed with no comments or
recommendations.
Section 11.03 — Rights of officers and employees reviewed with no
comments or recommendations.
Section 11.04 — Pending matters reviewed with no comments or
recommendations.
C. ARTICLE XII. PUBLIC SAFETY
Section 12.01— Created reviewed with no comments or
recommendations.
Section 12.02 — Department heads reviewed with no comments or
recommendations.
Section 12.03 — Members
Discussion ensued on the number of officers in the police department
determined by the City Commission. Chief Dowda answered questions
and added as long as the Commission has the ability to adjust the staffing
as necessary as demographics change he has no issue with the two and
two -tenths (2.2) officers per thousand (1,000) population.
Chair McMillan suggested adding this to the list to bring back for further
discussion on changing the language in this section.
Member Crockett mentioned there is a ratio for officers but not for
firefighters and the language is outdated.
Discussion ensued on what the number of firefighters was on November
4, 1997 and where this number came from.
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Vice -Chair Richardson suggested tabling this conversation to the next
meeting in order to get the number of firefighters and change language
as needed.
Member Crockett also asked to get the population at that time as well.
Section 12.04 — Responsibilities reviewed with no comments or
recommendations.
Section 12.05 —Support reviewed with no comments or
recommendations.
Section 12.06 —Accountability reviewed with no comments or
recommendations.
5. OLD BUSINESS
A. ARTICLE VI. FINANCIAL PROCEDURES
Ms. Snead presented the Memorandum from the City Manager regarding
the Clarification of Budget Amendments versus Line Item Transfers. She
pointed out changes in Section 6.06 (c) —Transfers of Appropriations they
are recommending. She said what we are asking for is the City Manager
to have the ability to move monies from one program or line item within
a department or fund to another, and that we then report that back to
the Commission within a reasonable time period, and definitely within
the fiscal year.
Chair McMillan asked what the difference was between a fund and a line
item.
Ms. Snead said that a fund is a bucket of money. Within a fund, you have
different departments, and within each of those departments, there are
different line items. Currently, we can only move money within a specific
budget through a budget transfer that goes to the City Manager. If we
wanted to move money from one department to another, it would have
to come back to the City Commission for approval through a resolution.
We are asking to be able to move money from one program within the
same fund without having to bring it back before the Commission for
approval.
Discussion ensued on transfers of funds, the budget, and issuance and
limitation of debt. Ms. Snead answered questions.
Mr. Langley noted the numbers in Section 6.10 (b) - Debt restrictions
were established in 2014 in a Charter Amendment.
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Vice -Chair Richardson moved to change Section 6.06 per City
Manager's recommendations. Seconded by Member Crockett and
carried by unanimous voice vote.
B. ARTICLE III, SECTION 3.03 (a). ELECTION OF MAYOR
Vice -Chair Richardson spoke about the form of government as it relates
to a strong Mayor and Council -Manager. He said that having a strong
Mayor and City Council puts the Mayor at the head, giving the City a
political leadership that is very visible. Having a single voice in office
places the Mayor in a position to articulate a vision and act on it. It makes
it easy to understand who is in charge and gives the City a single focal
point person to handle constituencies and groups that increase as the
City grows. He said the current structure of Council -Manager has certain
advantages to offer as well. Since the Council makes the decisions there
is less risk of political influence driving those decisions. He also
mentioned the turnover of staff is usually lower. He then listed examples
of the pros and cons of both Council -Manager and strong Mayor forms of
government as it would apply to a smaller City like Longwood. He stated
that no matter which form of government structure Longwood residents
choose to accept neither is completely perfect. What really matters is
that the government is working for the people, because in the end, it is
really about them. Therefore, after weighing the pros and cons of both
forms of government, I have come to a conclusion and can see no
reasons why the current form of Council -Manager government should_
change. However, he recommends that this be reconsidered by the
Charter Committee once the City of Longwood grows its population to over 30,000 residents.
Chair McMillan thanked Vice -Chair Richardson for his contribution. He
said in reviewing the Charter of other cities, there is the Hybrid form of
government where you have an elected Mayor who does not carry on the
administrative tasks of the City Manager. He said he would like to discuss
this form of government later on. He agrees with Vice -Chair Richardson in
that the City of Longwood is too small to have a strong Mayor form of
government. However, he believes there should be an accountability
factor in which people know who the Mayor is and that he or she be their
spokesperson.
Discussion ensued on how the language of Charter would change and
forms of government in surrounding Seminole County cities.
Member Anderson suggested thinking about giving the mayor veto
power, as it can cause political issues.
Discussion ensued on veto power.
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Mr. Langley pointed out that the Mayor that has veto power does not
vote. Often, there is a Commission with an odd number and the Mayor is
an additional person that can veto the action of the odd number that is
voting.
Member Poulalion passed out information on the four types of municipal
government. She said our main concern is how the Mayor is elected,
sometimes in the Council -Manager form, the Mayor is filled by election
and sometimes is filled by council appointment.
6. AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE NEXT MEETING
A. Review the list of potential recommendations made by
Members.
Chair McMillan said he would like to review the list of potential
recommendations that have been made and also continue the discussion
on the Mayor. He reminded everyone the next meeting will be held on
November 14cn
7. ADJOURN. Chair McMillan adjourned the meeting at 7:31 p.m.
Matthew McMillan, Chair
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