CAC_11-14-2019_MinsCity of Longwood
2019 Charter Advisory Committee
Longwood City Commission Chambers
175 West Warren Avenue
Longwood, Florida 32750
MINUTES
November 14, 2019
6:00 P.M.
Present: Chair Matthew McMillan
Vice -Chair Johnnie Richardson
Member Deborah Poulalion
Member Rex Anderson Sr.
Member Kate Crockett
Dan Langley, City Attorney
Michelle Longo, City Clerk
David Dowda, Police Chief
Mike Peters, Fire Chief
Chris Kintner, Community Development
Absent: J.D. Cox, City Manager
1. CALL TO ORDER. Chair McMillan called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —October 24, 2019
Member Anderson moved to approve the minutes of October 24,
2019, as presented. Seconded by Vice -Chair Richardson and
carried by a unanimous voice vote.
3. PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. None.
4. OLD BUSINESS
A. Review the list of potential recommendations made by Members.
Article XII. Public Safety, Section 12.03 — Members
The police department shall consist of not less than two and two -tenths
(2.2) officers per thousand (1,000) population or such other members as
shall be determined by the City Commission.
The Police Chief was asked about the ratio and said they are currently
operating above that number. Some discussion ensued on the portion
that states "or such other members as shall be determined by the City
Commission", and it was decided to add this to the list and bring back for
further discussion on changing the language.
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Discussion ensued on the language in the first part of this section.
Member Poulalion asked if changing the word or to and would
accomplish the objective of clarifying the first part of this section.
Mr. Langley suggested ending the sentence with population and
removing the rest of the wording.
Chair McMillan moved on to the second part related to the fire
department.
The fire department shall consist of no fewer firefighters than existed on
November 4, 1997.
There were questions regarding this language and additional information
on what the population was at that time was researched. The following is
what was provided by the Fire Chief: Just prior to 11/4/97 the possibility
of consolidation of our department with Seminole County was explored.
After investigation it was determined consolidation was not financially
feasible or politically desired. To demonstrate the desire to maintain our
own department in the future we were placed in the charter with the
current staffing at the time of 27. The population in Longwood according
to the Census was 13,316 in 1990 and in 2000 it was 13,657.
Chair McMillan addressed the second part of the section and read an
email clarifying the number of firefighters on November 4, 1997, was 27.
Chief Peters said after that point, we have changed over the years and
that was prior to us being an emergency transporting agency. We added
ambulances and personnel came afterward. In 2017 we added additional
personnel per shift to help offset overtime costs. The number today
would be 42 and we view 27 as a minimum. He noted the Commission
does review their staffing during the budget process.
Discussion ensued on firefighter staffing and a question was raised
regarding looking at staffing based on a ratio.
Chief Peters advised it would be difficult to reflect members in the fire
department on a ratio because their staffing is not indicated by
population levels, but rather by development and what type of
development is going on in the City. It would be more accurate to
compare it to the Insurance Service Office recommendations. However,
in doing so, it would be cost prohibited for the City because their
recommendations would exceed our current staffing. We would probably
want to look at our resources and what we are capable of doing.
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Discussion ensued on how to change the language of the second
sentence. Chief Peters suggested changing the number to today's
staffing, which is 42. He also clarified that their current staffing is 43,
which includes one administrative position and that position is not a
certified firefighter.
Member Crockett moved to change the language of the second
part to say "The fire department shall consist of no fewer
firefighters than 42". Seconded by Member Anderson.
Chief Dowda addressed the section related to police, that officers and
members are two different things. He said he would not want
administrative staff to be considered in the ratio for sworn officers.
Discussion ensued on amending the motion, adding the changes in the
wording for the police department and staffing in the police department.
A question was raised with the wording related to "or such other
members as shall be determined by the City Commission" and the City
Commission should not be involved in determining the members in the
Police Department, and this should be removed to keep the department
in charge of determining its own staffing needs.
Mr. Langley clarified staffing is a budgetary issue and the Commission
approves the budget. He noted these provisions, related to staffing
levels, are not mandated to be in the Charter. It is a protection and
restriction on the authority of the Commission by establishing these
minimums to make sure that in the budget process they are meeting
these minimums.
Further discussion ensued on the wording for the police department.
Member Crockett withdrew her motion and Member Anderson withdrew
his second on the initial motion made by Member Crockett.
Member Crockett restated her motion and moved to remove the
word "or" to "and" in the first sentence for the police department
leaving the rest of the sentence as is, and change the second
sentence for the fire department to say, "The fire department
shall consist of no fewer firefighters than 42, and such other
members as shall be determined by the City Commission."
Seconded by Member Poulalion and carried by a unanimous voice
vote.
Article VII. Land Planning, Section 7.02
Section 7.02 — Board of adjustment.
The City Commission shall by ordinance establish a Board of Adjustment
and shall provide standards and procedures for such board to hear and
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determine appeals from administrative decisions, petitions for variances
in the case of particular and unusual circumstances which would prevent
the reasonable use of land and such other matters as may be required by
the City Commission or by law. The Board of Adjustment shall consist of
five (5) members appointed by the City Commission for terms of three (3)
years from among the qualified voters of the City. Members of the Board
of Adjustment shall hold no other City office or employment.
Mr. Kintner, Community Development Director, said the Board of
Adjustment has not met since April 25, 2012. He reviewed the things
that lead up to this happening. In March of 2011, the City Commission
added language to the Development Code that required variances that
were approved over staff exception to be automatically appealed to the
City Commission. In September of 2012, the City Commission adopted
Ordinance No. 12-1992 which included a special exception procedure.
Special Exceptions are very similar to variances. He said variances only
look at hardships while special exceptions do not necessarily have to
prove a hardship, but can provide an alternative to the Code that still
meets its intent and there are still six criteria City Commission needs to
look at to do that. Consequently, two types of variances were seen
before 2012; the smaller issues were taken care of as administrative
labors which is usually a 20% to 25% waiver to a numeric standard; other
larger issues passed as Special Exceptions. With these two paths existing
there have not been any variance applications. You can still apply for a
variance, but very few people would take that path having the special
exception path being available to them.
Mr. Langley said the Board of Adjustment is not a State Law Committee.
It is unusual to see both the Land Planning Agency and the Board of
Adjustments in the Charter since they are not needed to be in the
Charter. He did reiterate the Land Planning Agency is a state
requirement for a City to have. He clarified that removing Section 7.02
out of the Charter does not eliminate the Board. The Commission would
still have to remove the Board from the City Code in order for the Board
to go away.
Chair McMillan suggested a change in the language of this section by
changing "shall" to "may".
Mr. Langley advised the purpose of the Charter is to set up a framework
of government for the City and to restrict the authority of the
Commission to do things. Different Boards are functions of a Code and
the elimination of the Board in the Charter does not prohibit the City
Commission from establishing the Board, but its existence in the Charter
is mandating the Board be created. Allowing flexibility in the Charter is an
act that is not needed because the Commission has the authority to do it
anyway. What the Charter provision does is bind the hands of the
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Commission to have an ordinance that establishes this Board with certain
functions that the Commission may decide is not the most efficient way
of handling certain things. He suggests removing Section 7.02 as it does
not need to be in the Charter, to begin with.
Vice -Chair Richardson moved to remove Section 7.02 - Board of
Adjustments from the Charter in its entirety. Seconded by
Member Crockett and carried by a unanimous voice vote.
Chair McMillan moved to the language for modifying grammar and
overall use of pronouns in the Charter.
Member Crockett moved to update the antiquated language and
wording making the Charter gender -neutral in its use of pronouns.
Seconded by Vice -Chair Richardson carried by a unanimous voice
vote.
Article III. Section 3.01(c)(2) Geographical commission districts
Section 3.01 (c)(2) Geographical commission districts.
(2) The boundaries of such districts shall be defined by said ordinance and
shall be amended from time to time as necessary to maintain said
districts in as nearly equal population as practicable.
Discussion ensued on the changes previously made, which were to
consider changing Section 3.01 (C)(2) to indicate the boundaries of such
districts shall be reviewed no less than every ten years in a period of time
reasonable after the release of the United States Census results and any
district changes would be in effect for the next election cycle.
Mr. Langley requested some time to work on language and bring it back
for consideration at the next meeting. He did express some concern with
restricted language because of when elections may fall.
Discussion ensued on the Census, general elections, and redistricting.
Article IV. Section 4.06. —Temporary/Acting City Manager
Section 4.06. — Temporary/acting City Manager.
(1) Temporary City Manager. The City Commission shall designate who
shall act as temporary City Manager during temporary absences.
(a) The term temporary absence shall be construed to mean
vacation; out-of-town official business, holidays, and weekends;
and being temporarily incapacitated by illness of not more than
sixty (60) days.
Discussion ensued on the language of this section. No recommendations
were made.
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Article VI. Financial Procedures
Chair McMillian said this section has already had a motion to include
staff's suggestions in the Board's recommendations to the Commission.
Article VIII. Section 8.02 (b) - Qualifying fee
(b) Qualifying fee. A non-refundable qualifying fee equal to five (5)
percent of the annual compensation shall be required of each candidate,
or, if such candidate is unable to pay the qualifying fee, then the
candidate shall be required to qualify in accordance with F.S. § 99.095.
Discussion ensued on the recommendation of changing the language in
this section, removing "unable to pay" and let it be a candidates decision
to pay or get petitions.
Member Poulalion moved to strike out "if such candidate is
unable to pay the qualifying fee" and have it read "A non-
refundable qualifying fee equal to five (5) percent of the annual
compensation shall be required of each candidate, or, the
candidate shall be required to qualify in accordance with F.S. §
99.095." Seconded by Vice -Chair Richardson and carried by a
unanimous voice vote.
Article VIII. Section 8.03. - Form of ballots.
A Charter amendment to be voted on by the City shall be presented for
voting by ballot title and shall be a clear, concise statement describing the
substance of the measure without argument or prejudice. Immediately
below such question shall appear, in the following order, the word "Yes"
and also the word "No" with a sufficient blank space thereafter for the
placing of the symbol 'Y' to indicate the voter's choice or with a lever
opposite "Yes" or "No" if voting machines are used.
Chair McMillian said this section has already had a motion to strike out
election information and replacing it to reflect "shall be consistent with
state law" and included in the Board's recommendations.
Article X. Section 10.03 (a)(4) - Prohibitions
No person shall orally, by letter or otherwise, solicit or assist in soliciting
any assessment, subscription, or contribution for any municipal political
purpose whatever from any person holding any compensated appointive
City position.
Chair McMillian said this section has already had a motion to remove this
language and include in the Board's recommendations. Member
Anderson noted he has since changed his position and is in agreement
with this recommendation which he previously voted against at the last
meeting.
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B. ARTICLE III, SECTION 3.03 (a). ELECTION OF MAYOR
Chair McMillan wants the Board to take a hard look at this and bring this
back to the January meeting. He said with the rise in apartment buildings
being built and demographic changes happening in Longwood,
redistricting is bound to happen. This will change the way the District
Maps look if we go from five districts to four. He requested a
demographic line to have a visual on how this redistricting will look like
with different districts. He believes when redistricting happens, this is the
time when Longwood should decide whether they pursue an elected at -
large mayor not within a district. He would also like to discuss the pros
and cons of whether or not to go to single -member voting districts if
redistricting were to happen.
Discussion ensued on how an elected Mayor by the people would benefit
the City.
5. AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE NEXT MEETING
Chair McMillan wants to bring back a discussion on the election of Mayor
and single member districts.
6. ADJOURN. Chair McMillan adjourned the meeting at 7:17 p.m.
Matthew McMillan, Chair
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