LPA_08-12-2020_Minutes LAND PLANNING AGENCY
Longwood City Commission Chambers
175 W Church Avenue
Longwood, Florida
MINUTES
August 12,2020
6:00 P.M.
Present: Judy Putz,Chair
David Gritton, Member
JoAnne Rebello, Member
Elias Khoury, Member
Chris Kintner,Community Development Director
Anjum Mukherjee,Senior Planner
Craig Dunn, IT Director
Absent: Glenn Kirwan
1. CALL TO ORDER
Ms. Mukherjee called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
2. ADDITIONS AND DELETIONS
None
3. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR
A. Regular Meeting held January 8,2020
Vice Chair Gritton moved to approve the minutes from the January 8, 2020
meeting. Seconded by Member Khoury and carried by a unanimous vote.
4. PUBLIC COMMENT
No public comments.
5. PUBLIC HEARING
A. ORDINANCE NO.20-2176
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF LONGWOOD, FLORIDA, AMENDING
ORDINANCE NO. 1019, SAID ORDINANCE BEING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
FOR THE CITY OF LONGWOOD,FLORIDA;SAID SMALL SCALE PLAN AMENDMENT
(SPA 01-20) CHANGING AND AMENDING THE LAND USE DESIGNATION ON THE
FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM COUNTY LOW
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DENSITY RESIDENTIAL (LDR) TO CITY OF LONGWOOD MEDIUM DENSITY
RESIDENTIAL (MDR) AND COUNTY ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL (A-1)
TO CITY OF LONGWOOD MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL 15(MDR-15)TO
THE PROPERTY WITH PARCEL ID 30-20-30-300-007G-0000;PROVIDING FOR
CONFLICTS,SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
Chris Kintner read Ordinance No. 20-2176 by title and gave a brief introduction
about the subject property having being annexed into the City and the land use
action requested by the applicant of Medium Density Residential 15. Mr. Kintner
requested that the applicant do their presentation and after that he would go
over the staff report.
Ms. Mukherjee recognized the applicant's representative Mr. Bobby Wannas.
Mr.Wannas introduced himself as a Senior Planner with Madden, Morehead,and
Stokes,and thanked the Board for hearing the request. He agreed with the staff's
recommendation for approval and thanked the staff and said he would be happy
to answer any questions that the Board and neighbors may have.
Mr. Kintner proceeded to give the staff report by explaining the process of
assigning the land use to a property after annexation. Mr. Kintner explained the
maximum density associated with MDR-15 and the distinction between what
would be allowed with single use-a max of 10 du/acre and mixed use which would
be a mixture of residential and retail-a max of 15 du/acre. He explained that
although the applicant had not expressed any intent to do a mixed use project for
the purposes of the land use the City has to consider the maximum development
potential and review it based on that. Mr. Kintner emphasized that although
some people may have seen a conceptual plan-the decision under review for the
evening was a land use one to assign a City land use and zoning to the property
and not a site plan one which would be done later on and the neighbors would
be invited to a Citizen Awareness and Participation Plan (CAPP) meeting. Mr.
Kintner said that the decision was to figure out if the land use of medium density
residential was appropriate for the subject property in relation to all the
properties around based on the goals and objectives of the City's comprehensive
plan and the City's infrastructure.
Mr. Kintner explained that in order to give everybody the accessibility to the
proceedings the meeting was set up to get input from people attending virtually.
Mr. Kintner asked to utilize the "chat" function in the Zoom window to let Ms.
Mukherjee know about their desire to speak.
Mr. Kintner proceeded to explain the staff report and how the request was
generally consistent with the comprehensive plan with the review being done
against the maximum possible density which was more than the developer's
request. Mr. Kintner said that the applicant was looking at multifamily which
allows townhomes. Mr. Kintner went over the dwelling unit yield in Low Density
Residential compared to Medium Density-15 both for single use for a maximum
of 50 units and mixed use for a maximum of 75 units. Mr. Kintner explained that
the City's traffic engineer had reviewed the trip generation for the maximum of
75 du/acre of 600 trips vs the most likely scenario of 50 dwelling units of 400 trips
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with access off Lake Emma which is a County Collector roadway with a capacity
of 42,560 daily trips and had a daily count of 18,910 trips which was well below
the capacity and even the high development scenario of 75 units would represent
an increase of 2%. Mr. Kintner explained that it would be the same for the peak
volume. Mr. Kintner said the same applies to Utilities and the Utilities Division
has determined that there was capacity. Mr. Kintner pointed to the map in the
staff report which showed that the subject property was in close proximity to
Danbury Mill and Coventry which were zoned medium density residential and
carried more or less the same density. Mr. Kintner said that in light of all those
points,the request was generally considered consistent with the Comprehensive
plan and issues like storm water management which although extremely
important-are considered at the site plan stage. Mr. Kintner then explained the
process going forward with the LPA recommending either approval or denial to
the City Commission and after the City Commission approval the developer could
proceed with development plans and at that point all the access, stormwater,
landscaping etc.would be reviewed along with County review for road and traffic.
Mr. Kintner also brought up a phone call from Chairwoman Putz about traffic on
Longwood Hills and Rangeline and in speaking with the City Engineer who sent
some information further indicating an insignificant increase in traffic without
losing any level of service. Mr. Kintner then concluded by saying that given all
those perspectives the staff therefore recommends approval.
Chairwoman Putz discussed opening up the public hearing for public input and
based on everything the board members could then discuss the item.
Chairwoman Putz then explained that she would alternate between calling on a
public person present and Ms. Mukherjee would pick the next person virtually.
Chairwoman Putz asked if anyone present wanted to speak and no one in the
audience volunteered to speak.
Ms. Mukherjee identified Marie Pierre Louis at 1820 Lake Emma as wanting to
speak. Ms. Louis said her property was in the forefront of the property in
question and was surrounded by the same. She said she was really used to the
traffic and noise in the front because of Lake Emma Road and really enjoyed the
peace and quiet in the back and it would all change.
Ms. Mukherjee then identified Dr. Ballentine as wanting to speak virtually. He
said he lived about 1000 feet away and he was upset about the number of units
going in and the physical congestion and diseases that would be brought into the
area.
Ms. Mukherjee identified Todd Ramin as wanting to speak virtually. He said he
lived next door. He said he could hear all the cars come and go next door and the
headlights even though he lives next to Lake Emma. He wanted to know that if
the development goes in there would they be required to put in a fence or a wall
like Publix up the road has. He said he had lived there for 18 years overlooking a
beautiful horse farm and now he'd have two story buildings overlooking the back
of his property. Chairwoman Judy Putz replied that the meeting was just about
the land use and not the specifics. Mr. Ramin asked how the property was in the
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City because he thought it was in Lake Mary. Chairwoman Putz clarified that it
was in unincorporated Seminole County and it was annexed in. She said it had to
be assigned a City land use based on whether the land use was compatible and
adequate infrastructure was available. She said the LPA could not consider
anything other than the land use because no development plans had been
submitted formally. Mr. Ramin asked why the property couldn't stay low density
residential and Chairwoman Putz answered that the property owner had a right
to ask for whatever land use they wanted. Chairwoman Putz said she was not
minimizing his concerns but that there would be public hearing in front of the City
Commission and also a CAPP meeting where they could provide input and
concerns to the developer. Mr. Kintner mentioned that the property is under
contract and under both LDR and MDR the property owner could do a single
family subdivision and have homes in there that would still be 35 feet in height
since that is what is allowed under both land uses.
Ms. Mukherjee confirmed that she had asked everybody in the chat section and
identified Dr. Ballentine requesting to speak again. Dr. Ballentine wanted to
clarify that the property was pending and had not been purchased and have not
closed yet and Mr. Kintner confirmed that.
Vice Chair Gritton made a motion to close the public hearing and was seconded
by Member Rebello,and carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
Member Rebello said she had several questions. She asked if the lower leg
confirmed by Ms. Mukherjee was wide enough for access and safety as far as fire
trucks were concerned. Mr. Kintner said that even though this was not a site
plan-in the course of the conceptual the City's fire marshal had looked at the plan
and said it was workable. Member Rebello asked about the top leg of the
property being a utility easement and Ms. Mukherjee clarified that it was a
prescriptive access easement for the two lots at the back,owned by Ms. Brewster
and Dr. Ballentine. Member Rebello asked how that alley way shown in the
conceptual plan would affect access to those properties. Mr. Kintner said that
that easement would stay no matter what the land use was. Mr. Kintner
mentioned that the conceptual plan has been looked by the City on a pre-
development basis and both the City Engineer and Fire Marshall were
comfortable with that layout. Member Rebello mentioned that in the past she
believed that there had been some developments with a single road where the
fire trucks had trouble so that's why she was asking. Member Rebello asked if
the property was environmentally or conservation sensitive. Mr. Kintner replied
no and Member Rebello asked about the adjoining properties and the run off
since those are on a water body. Mr. Kintner said that as a part of the site
development plan-all that and particularly storm water would be immediately
looked at and as Ms. Mukherjee can attest-stormwater was always challenging
and looked at carefully and all site plan development also requires an
environmental assessment. Mr. Kintner also mentioned that the run off would
not be permitted and the developer has shown a retention pond on the property
to contain all run off. Member Rebello sked if the developer had committed to
having a certain number of workforce housing units. Mr. Kintner said that they
had not. Chairwoman Putz interjected to ask if those issues would be handled
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later on and Member Rebello said there was something mentioned in the staff
report and that was the basis of her question. Mr. Kintner surmised that what
Member Rebello was referring to were sections in the applicant's justification
statement where they have to basically state that they were meeting objectives
of the housing element.
Ms. Mukherjee said that the applicant would like to address the question. Mr.
Wannas went over the housing type requested and Mr. Kintner followed up by
saying that the applicant has stated in their statement that they are not proposing
low income housing. Member Rebello said that she was concerned that once the
land use was assigned it was permanent and she wanted to be able to make some
conditions and stipulations to the City Commission and she would like to stipulate
that there would only be 40 units and not 75. Mr. Kintner said it wasn't legal and
that the City couldn't give them MDR-15 land use and allow them only 40 units.
Member Rebello asked about the utilities. Ms. Mukherjee said that once the
property was annexed they were required to hook up to City Utilities. Member
Rebello asked again if it was City utilities and Ms. Mukherjee said that Andrew
Marsian, Utilities Manager had confirmed that and it would benefit the applicant
to hook up to City utilities as they would get a lower rate. Member Rebello asked
about the Consumptive Use Permit and issues with St.Johns in the past and Mr.
Kintner said that would be reviewed by Utilities Division. Member Rebello asked
about the inter-governmental element. Ms. Mukherjee mentioned that the City
coordinates with the County regarding all land use changes. Mr. Kintner said that
the applicant was just going over the intergovernmental element stating that they
were compliant.
Member Rebello brought up the traffic and said she lived off Rangeline Road and
asked if the developer would be asking to cut through and make a left on Lake
Emma. Mr. Kintner said it would be the County that mades that decision as it did
with Publix. He said that that issue was going beyond the land use. Member
Rebello asked about the waiver from the wall and Mr. Kintner explained that
there was something in the code that would let the developer and property
owner agree to waive a wall in favor of a fence if it was mutually beneficial and
would apply only to property boundaries where the wall was applicable and only
along the section each property owner abutted to and not for the entire
boundary. Mr. Kintner gave an example of CompuTech and Longwood Club
where a fence was proposed and a sliver of land given to Longwood Club in
exchange.
Chairwoman Putz asked if there were any other questions from any other LPA
members. Member Khoury asked if this approval would set any precedent for
medium density residential long Lazy Acres since there were a lot of 1-5 acre
parcels still available. Mr. Kintner said the City would look for what is around
there and there was mostly low density residential around Lazy Acres. Mr.
Kintner said that he couldn't presuppose how that would go but this decision
alone would not set a precedent and didn't think anyone could cite this example.
Chairwoman Putz asked if the applicant wanted to add anything. Mr. Wannas
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reiterated that they were compatible with surrounding land use and there was
adequate infrastructure available. He went over the intent of doing 40 units and
not 75 units.
Vice Chair Gritton moved that the Land Planning Agency recommend approval
of Ordinance 20-2176 to the City Commission, Seconded by Chairwoman Putz
Kirwan. Member Rebello asked again that if she could get an assurance about
the limitation in the number of units and Chairwoman Putz said it wasn't legal
and Vice Chair Gritton interjected to say that as a developer that even though 75
units would be allowed did not mean that practically they would be able to fit
that in. In addition he thought that nobody would want to do retail there because
it made no economic sense so mixed use was most likely not going to happen.
Member Khoury said it meant that they would be able to perhaps accommodate
50 units maximum with all roadways and easements taking up significant acreage.
Chairwoman Putz mentioned that accordingly to the conceptual it was more like
8 unit/acre which was in keeping with what was around there.
Chairwoman Putz asked Ms. Mukherjee to call the vote and the motion was
carried by a unanimous roll call vote.
Chairwoman Putz reiterated that the City had a strong development code. An
unidentified member in the audience asked if the property had exchanged hands.
Mr. Kintner said the City didn't know for sure. The audience member said the
property was overgrown and Mr. Kintner assured her that code enforcement
would get on that immediately.
6. DISCUSSION AND SCHEDULE FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
Mr. Kintner stated there would likely be a meeting in September for some Land
Development Code changes and a small scale amendment. Ms. Mukherjee said it would
be a possible small scale amendment as a result of an inter-local agreement with the
County in 1995 where enclaves that got sold would come into the City automatically and
would have to be assigned a City land use.
Mr. Kintner mentioned that UPS had been granted a site plan approval and Alta Cypress
was in late stages of stormwater resolution but their building permits were in. Mr.Kintner
said that in spite of the COVID circumstances the City had a number of businesses open
up and have ribbon cuttings and the larger development side of things had not slowed
down fortunately. He also mentioned that the LPA may see some other annexations and
subsequent land use amendments come in and the development in the City had not
waned.
7. ADJOURNMENT
Vice Chair Gritton made a motion to adjourn, seconded by Member Khoury and
Chairwoman Putz adjourned the meeting at 6:53 p.m.
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ATTEST:
A um kherjee, Recording Secretary
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